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With a (questionable) W from James Drake, how would you rate season 5 of Fishtank?

  • 1 Star — Absolute disaster. Unwatchable, boring, production fucked it up bad, the fish were lame

    Votes: 56 7.3%
  • 2 Stars — Pretty bad. Some funny moments, dragged, too many vibe repair days. Barely worth checking.

    Votes: 87 11.4%
  • 3 Stars — Average. Solid entertainment in spots, some good chaos and crashouts, but nothing special

    Votes: 169 22.1%
  • 4 Stars — Really good. Lots of hilarious moments, strong fish personalities, solid content and vibes

    Votes: 405 53.0%
  • 5 Stars — Peak Fishtank / Masterpiece. Non-stop insanity, legendary fish and production, pure chaos

    Votes: 47 6.2%

  • Total voters
    764
saying she "did nothing" is just petty
it took Jet prodding because she didn't care
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Generally speaking, Josie was fun to watch because she was almost always doing something, was engaged with TTS at all hours, and put in effort on challenges until the end. The obsession with saying she "did nothing" is just petty at this point now that we've gone through all of season 2 and saw plenty of what actually doing nothing looks like.
If you were honest and just said "hey man I think Josie is cute that's why I make these posts" I'd respect you way more. Rocking back and forth and twitching isn't anything. It's not content. Playing with baby toys and rocking back and forth isn't doing something any more then me sitting here breathing and typing is.

 
Are you doubting that happened or what? "Doing something" doesn't mean "interacting with Letty." On that note, I expect Lettyfarmers are going to be disappointed in her on 2.5.
If you were honest and just said "hey man I think Josie is cute that's why I make these posts" I'd respect you way more. Rocking back and forth and twitching isn't anything. It's not content. Playing with baby toys and rocking back and forth isn't doing something any more then me sitting here breathing and typing is.

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Like I said, it's petty. Something as basic as Stein having Josie help set up the garage for the seance later in the season and she's in the garage alone making jokes about how Stein is an evil man making her draw satanic imagery and how goofy it all is. I don't understand how "Letty poured brown stuff on someone's bed" is amazing content, because it isn't, particularly that late into the show when it's her main shtick by that point.

Letty, the content queen, ended up leaning on Josie for content post-show for a reason. We'll see what she comes up with for 2.5.
 
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I expect Lettyfarmers are going to be disappointed in her on 2.5
Letty, the content queen, ended up leaning on Josie for content post-show for a reason. We'll see what she comes up with for 2.5
It's both hilarious and pathetic that you became such a Letty seether AFTER season 1 just because you couldn't accept that she was the entertaining part of the show and not josie wosie
You are going to be mad annoying in 2.5, nitpicking and grilling Letty for everything she does. Just like one of those twitter josiecels you like to monitor so much. EDIT: spelling
 
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Are you doubting that happened or what? "Doing something" doesn't mean "interacting with Letty." On that note, I expect Lettyfarmers are going to be disappointed in her on 2.5.
So far Letty and Tayleigh are more or less the only two returning to the tank who are still under the "returning curse": so far everyone who has returned to the tank after being eliminated has looked like an asshole because they overcorrect once they have read all the criticism about them online or overreact to the things they find out. I'm not sure if you could say it "started" with Damiel but it definitely started with Mauro, then Jon, then Jimmy. I think Brian is the only one who has come out unscathed but he barely had time to do or say anything and everything was basically resolving when he got there so there wasn't much for him to fuck up.

You could argue Vance hasn't had his yet but the way he was acting very arrogant and cocky about the season two contestants and coming up with very boring bits and being proud of them seems like paying the toll to me. I actually caught a podcast he was on yesterday where he talked about how he was deliberately keeping himself from distant from the S2 contestants so he wouldn't feel bad for them and I think rather than make him more creative or able it just made him seem like an arrogant prick who forgot how hard he blew it despite how easy he had it. Same with Josie coming through and being extremely uncomfortable talking to the contestants - she was, if I'm being generous, trying to keep herself from stealing the spotlight with her ~amazing popularity and in the process looked like a disturbed intern. If I'm not being generous she was phoning it in because she finally was exposing she had no idea what was ever going on or how the show was supposed to work.

I'm expecting two things:
Letty will come in with a chip on her shoulder carrying grudges that don't belong to her (Sylvia vs Jon, Abi vs Jimmy) and it'll read to the audience as her playing the victim because she's upset about things that aren't obvious. She'll snake without being provoked in a way that shoots herself and her team in the foot. There will be some reckoning because her mean girl bit doesn't work when she actually has teammates that are expecting her to work with them.
Tayleigh is going to come in even more deadly-serious and cold because she doesn't want to lose for dumb reasons again, and it'll freak people out when they're larping. She'll read like a party pooper because something funny will be going on and she'll be trying to make tactical decisions that end the funny.

I'm not being pessimistic really I think the curse is just human nature. Even Greg is talking about what he's gonna do differently and I think the first two or three days are going to be spent beating the stupid out of the contestants who are affected.
 
Dumbgay is just talking about TJ vs Shinji in the boxing match, he really got annoyed when Shinji went on his recent moping spell. Dumbgay went on a long rant in a twitter space about how Shinji was hardly fucked with during the show compared to the absolute hell that Tayleigh went through and gave a nod towards Trish handling it all well, commenting that both Tay and Trish came out of the tank and just started to grind on their streams to be successful while Shinji just wanted the success without putting effort in.
 
It's both hilarious and pathetic that you became such a Letty sheeter AFTER season 1 just because you couldn't accept that she was the entertaining part of the show and not josie wosie
You are going to be mad annoying in 2.5, nitpicking and grilling Letty for everything she does. Just like one of those twitter josiecels you like to monitor so much.
You're more MATI than anyone. I think Letty contributed significantly to the show but the praise for her and the disdain for Josie is too much. Some people are going to die seething about Letty not winning it all.

I actually caught a podcast he was on yesterday where he talked about how he was deliberately keeping himself from distant from the S2 contestants so he wouldn't feel bad for them and I think rather than make him more creative or able it just made him seem like an arrogant prick who forgot how hard he blew it despite how easy he had it.
Agreed, he seemed like a douchebag.
Same with Josie coming through and being extremely uncomfortable talking to the contestants.
I'm not following this one, though. She didn't seem like an asshole, she seemed like a sperg. Almost as if...

Letty will come in with a chip on her shoulder carrying grudges that don't belong to her...
I don't think she's like that, what I mean is people have these lofty expectations for her to be this wicked witch bitch but I think the potency she had is lost on this bunch.
 
There is no debate. I don't hate Josie I hate Josiecels and not even all of them just the waifu ones who pretend like her spinning in a chair like an 8 year old was riveting content and not them having a crush on an internet girl. I'm also not angry about Letty losing she got her 15k and most people know the reason Josie won was to keep the most hardcore paypigs who funded the show from revolting. I likely would have done the same thing if it was my project too.
 
If you were honest and just said "hey man I think Josie is cute that's why I make these posts" I'd respect you way more. Rocking back and forth and twitching isn't anything. It's not content. Playing with baby toys and rocking back and forth isn't doing something any more then me sitting here breathing and typing is.

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Josie twitching and stimming, TJ twitching and stimming, Fishtank 2 for 2 on winners who spaz around autistically
 
There is no debate. I don't hate Josie I hate Josiecels and not even all of them just the waifu ones who pretend like her spinning in a chair like an 8 year old was riveting content and not them having a crush on an internet girl.
If you were honest and just said "hey man I think Josie is cute that's why I make these posts" I'd respect you way more. Rocking back and forth and twitching isn't anything. It's not content. Playing with baby toys and rocking back and forth isn't doing something any more then me sitting here breathing and typing is.

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No one active in the thread these days has said those moments are good content, I've spelled out Josie's sane appeal plenty by now and each time it regresses back to "all of josie's fans are creepy perverts who want to fuck her" meanwhile Letty is completely absolved. The same girl who thirst posts to this day, wore skimpy clothes throughout the show and knowingly made some of her biggest simps her stream mods.
I don't make any posts because I think Josie is cute and have explained my motivations as many times as her appeal.


I'm going to spell out something below to show how retarded this gets.
And then we pressed @Aidan for examples of side adventures and the only one he could name was when Letty dumped coffee in Josie's bed and Josie couldn't figure out who did it, so it was really more of a Letty adventure.
Intentionally misleading. I felt like it wasn't worth correcting earlier, everyone has their favorites by now and, for whatever reasons, it's staunch a year on.
What's being referenced here is Letty (likely instructed) tried to conjure up beef with Josie. When Josie discovered the mess, she said it was gross and cleaned it up, that was that.. Until Jet, trying to force a script, told Josie to try to figure out who did it and Josie half-assed this forced script by just going around and asking who did it, everyone said they didn't, including Letty, and that was that... Until Jet, trying really hard to force a script, told Josie he thinks Sylvia did it and that Sylvia was probably lying so Josie needs to get revenge on Sylvia.
So Josie brainstormed with TTS on a way to get revenge that is more goofy than spiteful because she didn't care about some coke or coffee on the bed and floor. She ended up deciding to put on terrible makeup resembling Sylvia's and TTS agreed to compliment her constantly about it while she was deliberately hanging around Sylvia. This was cut short and required either jumping around a lot to watch this all unfold or being able to rewind.

This was on May 15th if anyone wants to run back through it.

Any Josie moments get handwaved away as nontent and apparently the above is a "Letty adventure." Chances are decent that Jet told Letty to do that and was trying to play puppetmaster, so maybe it was a Jet adventure.

Near the end of the season, Josie acknowledged why she didn't play into Letty's games or try to get revenge, there's no mystery here to why Josie didn't make the "content" some people insist upon.

I feel that the disdain towards josiecels and dissatisfaction with her winning has resulted in an inability to honestly acknowledge why Josie was popular for some people, as if Letty didn't have her own battalion of simps that she catered to, even after the show ended. People hone in on Josie's notable freaks, perverts, and retards, saying anyone who rooted for Josie must be one of them yet seem to forget Letty's deranged freaks, many of which she selected as mods and talked to on Discord when she streamed.
 
I feel that the disdain towards josiecels and dissatisfaction with her winning has resulted in an inability to honestly acknowledge why Josie was popular for some people
I feel like most people know why Josie had appeal. Terminally online autistic asian girl that isn’t ugly. You have to admit she was kind of a bystander throughout a good portion of S1 and to her credit I guess, it didn’t give anyone a solid reason to dislike her. So people go after the josiecels who are inherently more unlikeable than Josie herself. (Lots of retards and degens who obviously attract more attention by being fucking weird, as you mentioned).

Letty has her simp army sure, but Letty constantly put herself in situations that caused conflict in the tank and she really was the catalyst for a lot of the good content in S1. I just don’t see the point in arguing that Josie was actually good content the whole time and people who don’t agree just don’t “get it” and that she was actually big brained for not reacting much to any of the things going on in the tank, including the Letty “beef”. However, I do tend to agree that people that like Josie get shit on way more than Letty fans because of the Josiecel reputation and that’s kinda gay but oh well. What can ya do.
 
Dumbgay going off in the background and instantly blaming Trish for everything despite having no clue what happened is still the funniest part.
It's funny but 8 hours of it was still hell to watch and having to constantly mute all the good events because of his "YOU DONT HAVE CULTURE" shit was just painful.
 
I feel like most people know why Josie had appeal. Terminally online autistic asian girl that isn’t ugly. You have to admit she was kind of a bystander throughout a good portion of S1 and to her credit I guess, it didn’t give anyone a solid reason to dislike her. So people go after the josiecels who are inherently more unlikeable than Josie herself. (Lots of retards and degens who obviously attract more attention by being fucking weird, as you mentioned).

Letty has her simp army sure, but Letty constantly put herself in situations that caused conflict in the tank and she really was the catalyst for a lot of the good content in S1. I just don’t see the point in arguing that Josie was actually good content the whole time and people who don’t agree just don’t “get it” and that she was actually big brained for not reacting much to any of the things going on in the tank, including the Letty “beef”. However, I do tend to agree that people that like Josie get shit on way more than Letty fans because of the Josiecel reputation and that’s kinda gay but oh well. What can ya do.
I don't remember Josie getting any special treatment from production. She just managed to stay out of trouble by keeping a low profile, if I remember correctly. She was physically superior to Letty and won the last challenges.
This is the problem with how Fishtank works those that are entertaining get punished.

This means that she simply played the game better than Letty, who always managed to draw attention to herself.

TJ, however, got coddled by production. He didn't stay out of trouble but got help from Jet. The number of rules production made up to make TJ win was laughable.

This is what makes TJ's win so lame.
 
She just managed to stay out of trouble by keeping a low profile,
Yes. I never mentioned anything about production. I don’t think it was some wigger conspiracy for her to win. She played to her strengths by keeping to herself a lot of the time and she did do very well in the final against Letty.

TJ on the other hand…. 100% agreed.
 
There was a twitter space last night run by Jon, I missed a lot of it but I caught some of it.
  • Someone came in and asked Jon basically, "you have the lowest endorsements right now, how will you convince me to have my clan support you" and Jon exploded and said he doesn't care about changing anyone's mind and isn't going to do anything for him
  • After Jon spent about 15 minutes picking on random egirls someone insinuated Jon was gay and he exploded again
  • Jon hopes conditions are as bad as possible because he says he's the only one with any outdoor experience worth discussing
  • Jon says he will deign to support Letty and Tayleigh in the game if they make him a sandwich everyday and if there is food provided and no need for sandwiches he'll come up with something else demeaning for them to do
  • Jimmy joined the space and there was a segment where Jon was shouting questions at him
    • If they were animals, Jimmy thinks Sylvia would be a fox, Letty would be "some kind of Russian bear," Josie would be a coyote, Sam Hyde is a bald eagle "because he's American," and Scott Sullivan would be a cat because he's standoffish at first but comes around. Jon got mad because he clearly wanted this to be Jimmy coming up with insults and said Jimmy was just picking animals based on nationality but Jimmy said Letty is tough so she's a bear.
    • In the hypothetical established by Jon, Jimmy would have sex on camera during 2.5. Jon asked Jimmy if "the womb was white" would Jimmy have sex on camera and Jimmy repeated "if the room was white?" and Jon shouted at him that he meant "the mood was right." Other stipulations included the girl being STD tested and her being the one to initiate.
    • There was a part where Jon was trying to get Jimmy to talk shit about Sylvia which he doesn't do because they're not fighting like she and Jon are, so Jon had him bending over backwards like "in the event sylvia was mean enough to me to warrant me being mean to her I would be mean to her"
    • Jon said he's a Groyper and asked Jimmy if he's a Groyper too, and Jimmy said he doesn't know what that is. Jon explained that a Groyper is someone who hates Jews and freemasons and one of Jon's wranglers shouted at him that that isn't what a Groyper is.
  • Scott talked for a second and said he's been on set every week since May and greeted Jon by saying they haven't spoken in a long time.
  • Vance joined the space and mostly just said what he had been up to that night in an "I'm fucking with Jon" sort of tone, I forget exactly how he said it but it was something like "I'm just vibing... in a parking lot... feeling the vibes... vibing out..." type of thing he does.
    • Vance says he will arrive a day late and that's why there's a conflict between his show schedule and the start of 2.5
 
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It seems unusual of the Fishtank team to not trot out their prize winning hog Fatty Chris, is it just do to the slug not wanting to slink around in the 90° heat? I doubt he has much better to do and seems in constant need of money. Or maybe they're just not advertising him quite yet
 
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