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With a (questionable) W from James Drake, how would you rate season 5 of Fishtank?

  • 1 Star — Absolute disaster. Unwatchable, boring, production fucked it up bad, the fish were lame

    Votes: 56 7.3%
  • 2 Stars — Pretty bad. Some funny moments, dragged, too many vibe repair days. Barely worth checking.

    Votes: 87 11.4%
  • 3 Stars — Average. Solid entertainment in spots, some good chaos and crashouts, but nothing special

    Votes: 169 22.1%
  • 4 Stars — Really good. Lots of hilarious moments, strong fish personalities, solid content and vibes

    Votes: 405 53.0%
  • 5 Stars — Peak Fishtank / Masterpiece. Non-stop insanity, legendary fish and production, pure chaos

    Votes: 47 6.2%

  • Total voters
    764
I was scammed out of $35 for the Zipp drink order I place earlier this year. At the very least that's the most Sam and the wiggers will get out of me, since I pirated all the fishtank streams anyhow.
Of all the wigger shit you could purchase you chose $35 carbonated water.
It's no wonder they can scam so easily.
 
Wefunder "investors" aren't real investors. The company isn't public, the "investors" don't have stock, and the only terms are that if - IF - Fishtank sells, the WeFunder "investors" basically have a pre-order on stock to be sold in the sale. The S3 house being under Sam's name doesn't do anything with regards to the WeFunder "investors". The WeFunder "investors" don't get dividends or a split of profits or anything like that.

This isn't an IPO, it's a GoFundMe. WeFunder "investors" are not shareholders. There is no fiduciary duty to the WeFunder "Investors" and even if there were, this arrangement wouldn't run afoul of that. If FishTank LLC owned the house and made 3 million dollars profit, not a cent of that would go to any of the WeFunder "investors".
This is pretty spot on, and the chance of it going public is basically nil. From what I remember the fund raise was pre-burt season. It all was really riding on the Burt season IMHO and they simply don't get enough viewers and have so many inherent legal and other issues that the project doesn't look like it can scale up in the way Jeet Averageson and Sam Hyde want it to with space and pirateship themed seasons.

They do have some interesting ideas, but they need tens of millions of dollars to make it tenable and I don't think they actually have the acumen to make it happen with consistency and to scale it up as needed - it is simply a bit too niche if anything.

They'd need like a constant 100k viewers and a lot more income when you look at all the costs involved.

There are tons of similar GoFundMe-like websites to launch projects for everything from video games to fishtank concepts. Very, very few of them are successful enough to deliver returns and the amount they got from the funding (around a million) wasn't really substantial enough to bootstrap the project further.

Given the lack of acumen and I guess immaturity present in the way they manage fishtank (even if it is entertaining) it seems extremely unlikely that they'll get spaceship/pirateship themed events with extravagant set pieces and the kind of production quality and consistency that would attract 100k viewers.

There definitely is a market for what they're selling and its a compelling idea but I don't think they can scale this puppy up in its present form.

edit: They also only ever managed to get one advertiser which wasn't very good. The only way they can really make it work is premium subs (which have limitations) and way more product placement - they'd need an advertiser to put serious, serious money behind it to make it work because in the niche space it is in so many people just pirate the show and most of the useful discussion about it occurs out of their space (for example this thread is way better to follow the show than their shitty spammy chat).

They really should've done something productive with the chat shit on-site to make it actually usable and because they didn't its just constant spam and people use other websites to follow it.
 
imagine investing in the give a wigger a girlfriend foundation.
I hate knowing i even watched it go down.


They'd need like a constant 100k viewers and a lot more income when you look at all the costs involved.
For a moment i thought "advertisers" and then I remembered we were talking about fish tank.
 
For a moment i thought "advertisers" and then I remembered we were talking about fish tank.
It's totally possible for them to get way more advertisers. Especially online gambling people.

What they really needed was a professional business development manager to seek out relationships and shit like that. But they run a crew and idea that is way too cult-like and insular. Clearly none of the key crew people have the goods when it comes to bringing on board advertisers.

See the potential millions of views and memes that Burt generated? It's now gone and they didn't slap enough advertiser shit on it.

I don't see them repeating a burt-like opportunity again. They already squandered it and only had one advertiser that was stickermule.
 
Maybe this was a knee jerk reaction because most of us are fucking cynical about Sam, the wiggers and the future of the show.
No, Fishnet Inc is obligated to follow REG CF reporting rules the moment it started the Wefunder, Fishnet Inc is in violation of quite a few things. I double checked and the S3 deed was notarized April 8th which is before the Form D was submitted on April 28th, but this doesn't absolve Sam and Fishtank of anything, they never disclosed to the investors (17 CFR §227.201(r)) that a large purchase was being made or transferred out of the company prior to the closure of the investment round. Fishnet needed to file a form C-AR regularly no matter what and Form C/A because there was a material change in the company's assets. Because there is over 300 investors involved in this they need to do the reporting, if they were under that threshold they'd be fine but as of December 8th there was over 2.5k people investing via Wefunder.

SAFE investors are protected by SEC rules, this stuff was push forward by Ycombinator nearly 2 decades ago because Silicon Valley needed to appease the banking Jews. Sam and the wiggers may feel comfortable fucking over the fish and fans but never fucking screw with the banking jews. That there that there is no annual report listing financials for the year of 2024 is a major red flag and SEC violation.
 
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It's totally possible for them to get way more advertisers. Especially online gambling people.

What they really needed was a professional business development manager to seek out relationships and shit like that. But they run a crew and idea that is way too cult-like and insular. Clearly none of the key crew people have the goods when it comes to bringing on board advertisers.

See the potential millions of views and memes that Burt generated? It's now gone and they didn't slap enough advertiser shit on it.

I don't see them repeating a burt-like opportunity again. They already squandered it and only had one advertiser that was stickermule.
not paying burt will probably go down as their worst decision in the long term.
 
Unsure if you're just being retarded to be funny but wiggers refers to Sams crew running the show.
Ahh, you are correct. I had forgotten about Jet’s curious obsession with ridiculous hip-hop finery and negro kicks.

Your assertion that production must remain involved in case of emergencies seems like a straw man. The original point was about minimizing routine or unnecessary production involvement not about removing essential oversight during serious incidents or emergencies.
Fair enough, but what would constitute a serious incident? And if there is an emergency, what is the response time deemed to be acceptable if staff are not near the contestants?
 
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Lets hope this helps mellow out Sam a bit if Fishtank comes back.
A bit of just casual gaming with a friend might destress him so he isnt so burnt out like he was at the end of S3 and most of S4.
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not paying burt will probably go down as their worst decision in the long term.
It's simultaneously on brand, funny and shitty that they fucked him over... They're hardly the people to moralize a hypersexual nigger who is at least honest about what he is and doesn't have marky posts following him around.

He does have an Irish American exam scam though, but that was a more successful business than all of MDEs enterprises combined until Jeet Averageson fucked it up (at least that's what burt claims)
 
air enough, but what would constitute a serious incident?
Jimmy swinging a croquet mallet at a female contestant.
what is the response time deemed to be acceptable if staff are not near the contestants?
Every season production has staff on standby in an adjoining room of the house, its also not unusual for production to have staff filming in the same room.

Do you really think some one like Mints coming into camera frame to make a shitty joke like "call me joints!" makes the tank a safer place for the contestants? Don't answer.

I think you're a disingenuous cunt and I see right through you. Your questions aren't for clarity, but are an attempt at steering the conversation toward your gay predetermined conclusion.
 
Is it plausible to think that during all those hours of a normal Fishtank season there won’t be a necessity for the crew to interact with the contestants?

Remember when Burt was sperging out in the girl from Texas room and the crew had to intervene and tell Burt to never touch the girls?

I don't think anyone's ever really taken issue with the wiggers showing up on set. Usually it's been met by excitement because it means something's about to happen. Possibly a new challenge, some kind of secret mission or just a new gaslight.

I'd say seriously dial back on the mini fishtoys or whatever you wanna call them. It's an innovation from the Bitchtank days that has somewhat twisted the original purpose of fishtoys--viewers' ability to cause disruptions in the house--into cheap parasocial validation through name shoutouts. And it probably does cause a bunch of unnecessary interactions between contestants and producers who constantly come running up and down the stairs.
 
you mean Kyoto Yung Lean? bro is goated.
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There is a link between the Wiggers and Sad Boys/Drain Gang.

F1lthy, the guy who did the DJ set in S3, and who takes Burt and Fatty on tour with him is a fan of the show, and has also worked with Joeyy in the past. F1lthy has also produced a lot of music for Bladee (who is a close friend of Yung Lean, for those not aware).

There's also footage of Lean rapping while Sam is in the room, which is generally believed to be an MDE skit that never saw the light of day.

This all being said, I think Zipp sponsoring an event that Lean is playing at is more coincidence than anything else.
 
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