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With a (questionable) W from James Drake, how would you rate season 5 of Fishtank?

  • 1 Star — Absolute disaster. Unwatchable, boring, production fucked it up bad, the fish were lame

    Votes: 56 7.3%
  • 2 Stars — Pretty bad. Some funny moments, dragged, too many vibe repair days. Barely worth checking.

    Votes: 87 11.4%
  • 3 Stars — Average. Solid entertainment in spots, some good chaos and crashouts, but nothing special

    Votes: 169 22.1%
  • 4 Stars — Really good. Lots of hilarious moments, strong fish personalities, solid content and vibes

    Votes: 405 53.0%
  • 5 Stars — Peak Fishtank / Masterpiece. Non-stop insanity, legendary fish and production, pure chaos

    Votes: 47 6.2%

  • Total voters
    764
An ideal freeloader wastes resources, constantly starts shit, and gets under people's skin.
I don't necessarily agree with this, but I do concur with what someone said earlier in the thread about the ideal freeloader changing the dynamic of the tank.
Love her or hate her, Beth has done this. Suddenly everyone is a lot more on edge, Friendtank's filter has had dust thrown in it, and suddenly there's Anti-Beth (pretty much everyone) and Pro-Beth (it's just JD lol) factions now. It's great.
Edit: I do agree the factions are a bit too rigid for right now though. Hopefully Drake pulls his snake shit and takes advantage of her supposedly being cool with him to "ally" with her at some point. But I think the fish know allying with Beth will just paint a target on your back like JD, so it's unlikely.
 
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she isn't even really bothering the Fish that much.
I disagree. It got to the point in less than 24 hours that they tried (and succeeded) in shoving her out the front door.
They all also now hate JD for being friendly with her (however they hated him before that)
I do dislike that it is currently all the fish against Beth+JD right now. They successfully united against a common enemy.
 
Man I always thought JD was alright despite the fag meme but he's acting like such a pussy lol. "No I'm not on her team, guys I promise!" he should just fucking own it and go full villain as well. Hope he gets the bullet tomorrow honestly
 
There has been a huge oversaturation of OF and Porn Stars on shows and podcasts the past few years. This is a big issue I think most people have with Beth. I can't stand the easy button of another run of the mill internet whore, and I think others have the same feeling. On top of that, she tried to hide it and is acting like she is reformed. It only took less than 5 minutes for everything to leak which is funny. You add that to the fact that she is cringe, causes most people to not like her. Beth gives the feeling of "turn off, tune out" heat on the show. Now that everyone is against her, I am starting to enjoy the stream again. Beth suffers from automaton conformity in my opinion, and fills her personality with things she wants to be rather that what she really is. I wouldn't doubt that she is currently skinwalking as someone else right now. It makes everything come off as cringe, instead of reacting to things as herself, she is constantly thinking, "How would the person I am skinwalking as react?"

I feel we could have long term content from her if she streams, as I feel she is a really good candidate as a Lolcow. I will be following her streams when the show is done and will be LARPing as a supporter/simp. We could get some long term entertainment out of her beyond the show.
 
Man I always thought JD was alright despite the fag meme but he's acting like such a pussy lol. "No I'm not on her team, guys I promise!" he should just fucking own it and go full villain as well. Hope he gets the bullet tomorrow honestly

Agreed. I hope he is also eliminated.
 
Man I always thought JD was alright despite the fag meme but he's acting like such a pussy lol. "No I'm not on her team, guys I promise!" he should just fucking own it and go full villain as well. Hope he gets the bullet tomorrow honestly
A real one or fake one? :thinking:
 
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Production needs to get in contact with the Portesi team and cop some of these
 
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Robojet came out to interrogate Bingo about how much she ate today and how much she weighed; Bingo gained 2 pounds. (Earlier today Jet came out of the basement and ordered Bingo to eat. She didn't, so a couple hours later he came out with a microwaved meal and told her she had to eat right now) Robojet asked if they were still feeling sick and they were ok.
Bongo wanted to get booze but Bingo refused to get up so she untied herself to grab some beers and hang out in the dorm.

Alchie bongo taking shots and pacing around on her own (Landon live in the Hmong part of Wisconsin.) Anissa took her into the bathroom to have a private talk.
 
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Beth is just annoying pick me screeching, I whole heartedly disagree with everyone that thinks this is content. It's just loud annoying noises, she isn't even really bothering the Fish that much.

To steal a bad analogy from Jet, the Fishtank community is like a triangle, you have Hellhouse that are sadistic sociopaths that just want people suffering nonstop, you have Simps that want to parasocially connect with the women and pay Jet to give them nice coins, and there is Friendtank(which I largely fit into) that like "nontent," to see the interestingly retarded Fish interact and express themselves.

I've mentioned it being a problem earlier, but I think we are really seeing the consequences for no Simpbait this season. If the Simps don't have someone to sperg over, they've check out, and The Hellhouse people are the loudest voice to Production. Friendtank people like me don't sperg out until the show already has died from lack of interesting people. So all the feedback they are getting is from Hellhouse. That's why the rushed a The Cell with no real reward. This leads to Burnout House which is seriously worse. The Tank can survive a day or two of "nontent"(even though there was great moments during that period, like the room siege and the unblinded Boyfriend letter and fallout), but when the cast Burns out the show fucking dies. That's how Season 2 was ruined, and it created low points in other seasons. I hope to god they aren't bringing in Frank early too. Frank will kill the season at this point. The Fish need to be a lot closer to $50k to put up with Frank.
I don't think Hellhouse and Friendtank are mutually exclusive. In fact, they often both shine best when happening at the same time. Shared trauma builds bonds and all that. I look back to last season where Rachel was essentially torturing the other fish with her incessant complaining and mopey attitude. The other fish were obviously miserable being around her but they were able to build a bond (temporary, but they always are) with each other while enduring her bitching. A lot of Frank's peak content has also always had this sort of dynamic. Even now that same thing is happening where Friendtank fans are getting what they want as the fish bond to go against someone there to torture them.

Sure, all Beth did was throw around a bunch of liquid, but it still provoked the other fish into trying to physically push her out the house which is something you rarely ever see. They've objectively been fucked with less than any other season and if that's all it takes to go to what is essentially DEFCOM 9 for them, then things are almost certain to get more heated.

Like you said, too much Hellhouse leads to burnout. But too much Friendtank leads to nontent. You need a Goldilocks porridge of both to make it work.
 
I've been thinking how the twins fit into fishtank archetypes and I can't quite nail them down.

If the twins only spoke Chinese and no one understood them, not a single thing would be different this season.

They're basically really interesting set decoration rather than a contestant. It's like having an animal in the house that just wanders around and is likable.
 
Now the drama has settled a little.

Current Stox (highest to lowest):
LAND 250 (-40 since approx. 24 hours ago)
JDRA 205 (-3)
TWIN 200 (-80)
BASH 175 (+22)
ANIS 140 (-20)
BETH 144 (+9)
HEAD 120 (+3)
JD 115 (+9)
EMMA 109 (-8 )
ROBO 100 (-2)

Current endorsements:
Bashir 1,297 (+45)
Anissa 1,143 (+16)
Emma 1,012 (-4)
The Twins 932 (+2)
Beth 899 (+55)
James Drake 847 (0)
Landon 837 (-12)
Head 819 (-25)
JD 704 (-16)
 

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Man I always thought JD was alright despite the fag meme but he's acting like such a pussy lol. "No I'm not on her team, guys I promise!" he should just fucking own it and go full villain as well. Hope he gets the bullet tomorrow honestly
When it all started with Emma putting trash in his luggage, I was a JD sympathizer. It felt like he'd gotten the S1 Letty treatment with all the abuse focused on him. But he's just so insufferable that now I don't care. He's not even content like Beth is so no reason to keep him. I'm praying to allah that he eats the bullet.
 
Got to say thanks to all the people clipping and posting updates about what's going on in the show. Makes it easier to keep up to date when I can't watch the show live. 🩷
 
I disagree. It got to the point in less than 24 hours that they tried (and succeeded) in shoving her out the front door.

Yeah but once they realized Production wasn't going to let them eliminate her they just started largely ignoring and/or seething about her.
Like you said, too much Hellhouse leads to burnout. But too much Friendtank leads to nontent. You need a Goldilocks porridge of both to make it work.
Yes, but my point is that Jet's just getting too much feedback about turning up the temp in the house, and that really good stuff he did(like how he handled Emma's letter) is getting ignored as nontent, while he's getting pushed for shit that will bweak the tank. I think Hellhouse needs to happen but it needs to be temporary, and it needs to build up over the whole season, and they need normal competition to decompress between(other than the last week, maybe 5 days in this set up, which should be constantly turning up the intensity). The Cell was probably suppose to happen after the Elmination, and it was rushed and underwhelming. The Enslave.me had potential, but the whole room got scrapped over Hellhouse people complaining about nontent. Hellhouse people bitch about Coddletank but some of the most memorable stuff happened from coddling like Cheese Fries.
 
Beth has pressed Landon multiple times about "Why did you pour trash on me when I was taped to the floor?"
Landon was offered $5 from production to get Beth to break her restraints and leave the room. He instantly collected trash and poured it on her, and she instantly completed Landon's side quest.
Beth keeps asking him why he did it, and Landon keeps saying "because I was bored." He is doing really well with not doing the "production told me to" that every other season suffered from.
 
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