Five Nights At Freddy's

[Crescent Fresh]

That's something I never really understood about post Pizza Sim games. How in the everloving FUCK would Fazbear Entertainment even bounce back from something like that? They literally cease to be a corporate entity at the end of FNAF 6, yet they're somehow not only back, but have enough money to build an entire goddamn MALL??? Even if they somehow DID survive past FNAF 6, they would at best be a rundown backwards company barely able to keep itself running with what little scraps of money they had. And no amount of bullshitting and cover-ups would save them either. There's no fucking way there are any companies in-universe willing to cooperate with Fazbear Entertainment, not with the trail of dead children and negligence strewn across it's legacy. The ONLY conceivable way it could have even had a CHANCE at surviving was if some larger corporation with similarly absent morals decided to buy out the property and "reboot" it in a way, only for that company to slowly get corrupted by ex-Fazbear employees and basically "become" Fazbear Entertainment in a way. And even then, they'd probably have to get a lot of their money from... less than legal means.

William Afton needs to die for sure, though. He had his time in the spotlight, just fucking kill him off for good already. If you really wanna continue the whole killer main antagonist route, just utilize Vanny more and have her be more than just a side lackey. Another idea would be to make the company itself the villain. Make them a force to be reckoned with. Maybe they find some shit Afton was experimenting with and think "hey, we could exploit this for profit", and then proceed to experiment with that stuff only for it to blow up in their faces REAL bad. Like, in Security Breach Freddy isn't just an animatronic, he's a full on synthetic lifeform with thoughts and feelings that gets treated as a slave on the daily. There's a LOT you could do with that, and it wouldn't even necessarily have to be Freddy. It could be any other animatronic.

But no, instead we just get the gorillionth reskin of Springtrap

tl;dr FE would realistically be dead post-FNAF 6; we need a new antagonist who isnt just "Afton but more crispy"

I kinda get that vibe too. His passion seems more rooted in film making than a lets-player. Maybe it's a slow transition of sorts so that once he decided to do that other stuff full time, it isn't as jarring of a shift for his audience.

Another thing to note: apparently his channel was originally gonna be more sketch-oriented, with him playing multiple characters (hence the name "Markiplier"). All these short film and sketches seem to show that desire hasn't gone away for him. His let-plays are more filler to pad time in between the projects he actually seems to care about.

The idea set up by Help Wanted wasn’t bad, except they immediately walked the entire concept back HARD in SB.

HW specifically set up that the games until now were all fiction in-universe, which were specifically made by Fazbesr Ent to obscure the truth of some actual killings years ago. However, there was also a concerted effort by a few followers to bring the murderer back to life, presumably because he unlocked the secret to immortality. This resulted in Glitchtrap.

SB walks that all back. Every last tiny bit. Glitchtrap is now also fiction and not, somehow? There are “Glitchy Maze” arcades, unplayable, that imply that the inclusion in HW was also fake, yet he’s still a real threat too? None of it makes sense.

 

[Wintersun]

The idea set up by Help Wanted wasn’t bad, except they immediately walked the entire concept back HARD in SB.

HW specifically set up that the games until now were all fiction in-universe, which were specifically made by Fazbesr Ent to obscure the truth of some actual killings years ago. However, there was also a concerted effort by a few followers to bring the murderer back to life, presumably because he unlocked the secret to immortality. This resulted in Glitchtrap.

SB walks that all back. Every last tiny bit. Glitchtrap is now also fiction and not, somehow? There are “Glitchy Maze” arcades, unplayable, that imply that the inclusion in HW was also fake, yet he’s still a real threat too? None of it makes sense.

HW set up the idea that the corporation is passing it off as fiction and/or highly exaggerated retellings of the events. That's one of the explicit plot points made in the first few minutes of the game. The only game that isn't canonical to the series is UCN I believe, but other than that, it's a convoluted mess of a timeline that was never planned on being expanded past the first game, hence the slipshod patchwork of lore this series has.

I honestly don't blame Scott for wanting out of this, SB has a great aesthetic and some genuinely great moments, but goddamn is it shitting up what was supposed to be a solid ending to a series.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

That's something I never really understood about post Pizza Sim games. How in the everloving FUCK would Fazbear Entertainment even bounce back from something like that? They literally cease to be a corporate entity at the end of FNAF 6, yet they're somehow not only back, but have enough money to build an entire goddamn MALL??? Even if they somehow DID survive past FNAF 6, they would at best be a rundown backwards company barely able to keep itself running with what little scraps of money they had. And no amount of bullshitting and cover-ups would save them either. There's no fucking way there are any companies in-universe willing to cooperate with Fazbear Entertainment, not with the trail of dead children and negligence strewn across it's legacy. The ONLY conceivable way it could have even had a CHANCE at surviving was if some larger corporation with similarly absent morals decided to buy out the property and "reboot" it in a way, only for that company to slowly get corrupted by ex-Fazbear employees and basically "become" Fazbear Entertainment in a way. And even then, they'd probably have to get a lot of their money from... less than legal means.

William Afton needs to die for sure, though. He had his time in the spotlight, just fucking kill him off for good already. If you really wanna continue the whole killer main antagonist route, just utilize Vanny more and have her be more than just a side lackey. Another idea would be to make the company itself the villain. Make them a force to be reckoned with. Maybe they find some shit Afton was experimenting with and think "hey, we could exploit this for profit", and then proceed to experiment with that stuff only for it to blow up in their faces REAL bad. Like, in Security Breach Freddy isn't just an animatronic, he's a full on synthetic lifeform with thoughts and feelings that gets treated as a slave on the daily. There's a LOT you could do with that, and it wouldn't even necessarily have to be Freddy. It could be any other animatronic.

But no, instead we just get the gorillionth reskin of Springtrap

tl;dr FE would realistically be dead post-FNAF 6; we need a new antagonist who isnt just "Afton but more crispy"

I kinda get that vibe too. His passion seems more rooted in film making than a lets-player. Maybe it's a slow transition of sorts so that once he decided to do that other stuff full time, it isn't as jarring of a shift for his audience.

Another thing to note: apparently his channel was originally gonna be more sketch-oriented, with him playing multiple characters (hence the name "Markiplier"). All these short film and sketches seem to show that desire hasn't gone away for him. His let-plays are more filler to pad time in between the projects he actually seems to care about.

Between Unus Anus and the upcoming In Soace With Markiplier, I’d definitely say his passion is doing more unique things than “just another LPer”. And considering he’s one of the longest lasting ones, it makes sense he’d want to do new things.

 

[Crescent Fresh]

HW set up the idea that the corporation is passing it off as fiction and/or highly exaggerated retellings of the events. That's one of the explicit plot points made in the first few minutes of the game. The only game that isn't canonical to the series is UCN I believe, but other than that, it's a convoluted mess of a timeline that was never planned on being expanded past the first game, hence the slipshod patchwork of lore this series has.

I honestly don't blame Scott for wanting out of this, SB has a great aesthetic and some genuinely great moments, but goddamn is it shitting up what was supposed to be a solid ending to a series.

There is a tape in Help Wanted that reveals they hired “Scott” to conceal the real events. Which would imply that it’s all supposed to be fake in a sense, yet it… also was entirely real?

 

[Wintersun]

There is a tape in Help Wanted that reveals they hired “Scott” to conceal the real events. Which would imply that it’s all supposed to be fake in a sense, yet it… also was entirely real?

They show Scott's face and say he's a developer in the little rail ride intro too. It's meta humor, the games are all still canon.

 

[Crescent Fresh]

They show Scott's face and say he's a developer in the little rail ride intro too. It's meta humor, the games are all still canon.

Which is incredibly dumb when considering that later in the exact same game you get this reveal, not played for humor:

“They lied to us. They lied to all of us. They told us that the whole point of this VR game was to undo the bad PR done by a rogue indie game developer, who supposedly made up a bunch of crazy stories that tarnished the brand. But that's not true at all! In their haste to develop this VR game and clear their name, they sent us some things I don't think they intended us to see. Such as a hard drive containing e-mails between Fazbear Entertainment and a certain indie developer. Fazbear Entertainment hired the game developer. Those indie games were designed to conceal and make light of what happened. This isn't just an attempt to rebrand. It's an elaborate cover-up. A campaign to discredit everything.”

So, Fazbear Entertainment had full control over the games, and used them to attempt to discredit everything… by literally telling everyone the full, true story, with no exaggerations, according to how SB handles the story afterwards.

 

[Wintersun]

Which is incredibly dumb when considering that later in the exact same game you get this reveal, not played for humor:

“They lied to us. They lied to all of us. They told us that the whole point of this VR game was to undo the bad PR done by a rogue indie game developer, who supposedly made up a bunch of crazy stories that tarnished the brand. But that's not true at all! In their haste to develop this VR game and clear their name, they sent us some things I don't think they intended us to see. Such as a hard drive containing e-mails between Fazbear Entertainment and a certain indie developer. Fazbear Entertainment hired the game developer. Those indie games were designed to conceal and make light of what happened. This isn't just an attempt to rebrand. It's an elaborate cover-up. A campaign to discredit everything.”

So, Fazbear Entertainment had full control over the games, and used them to attempt to discredit everything… by literally telling everyone the full, true story, with no exaggerations, according to how SB handles the story afterwards.

Exactly, and they pass it off as being incredibly exaggerated to deflect the fact the stories are true in canon. While I hate the idea, I have to admit it's clever humor, but then they play it completely straight, which ruins it for me.

 

[Crescent Fresh]

Exactly, and they pass it off as being incredibly exaggerated to deflect the fact the stories are true in canon. While I hate the idea, I have to admit it's clever humor, but then they play it completely straight, which ruins it for me.

I actually like the idea of it being played straight, if it was actually done in an interesting fashion. The idea of what we’ve gotten so far not being the full story could work as a twist and an easy way to potentially transition into a new canon, yet… that’s really not what they did. No, instead they put an active threat to the current Pizzaplex, Glitchtrap, into the VR game because… concealment, somehow?

 

[Klokateer636]

EDIT: At 6AM, Vaness asks Gregory what is he still doing here if its open already, and then asks you to come to the stage for "a reward" yet nothing happens if you go there, is it more cut content? A bug? Or just a troll move from the devs?

I think I may know what happened here. Its out of order.

When that clip plays you're in the elevator heading to the entrance, and if you use the elevator to go bsck to main stage, nothing is there.

So you end up going to the main entrance where the post-6AM stuff begins, and you go back to the main stage where a disc can be found.

It makes more sense if you were to go to the main entrance, chose the option to stay, and then get the clip telling you to go to the main stage where you then find the disc.

The reason why I think it's out of order like this is because there's only been 1 playthrough that I've watched which spawned the disc before going to the main stage (i think it was Dawko's playthrough?), but he couldn't interact with it. Then he went to the entrance, stayed, and later came back to the main stage where he picked it up.

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

HW set up the idea that the corporation is passing it off as fiction and/or highly exaggerated retellings of the events. That's one of the explicit plot points made in the first few minutes of the game. The only game that isn't canonical to the series is UCN I believe, but other than that, it's a convoluted mess of a timeline that was never planned on being expanded past the first game, hence the slipshod patchwork of lore this series has.

I honestly don't blame Scott for wanting out of this, SB has a great aesthetic and some genuinely great moments, but goddamn is it shitting up what was supposed to be a solid ending to a series.

Last I heard, the community had settled on Ultimate Custom Night being Afton's experience in his personal Hell after burning to death at the end of PS, but if the whole timeline is now of dubious canonicity, then who the fuck knows anymore.

 

[Marissa Moira]

but if the whole timeline is now of dubious canonicity, then who the fuck knows anymore.

It's the Zelda Timeline with bears.

 

[A Pile Of Fucking Ashes]

Apparently the FNF groomer formerly known as Kodomodachi (now called Mirth), is now trying to run away from the FNF community and flee to the FNAF community. She's been gaining quite a bit of traction recently, probably because people in the FNAF community aren't all aware of what she did. She made a community post about how she'd be leaving the FNF fanbase bc "muh cancel culture" and focusing more on FNAF.

Spoiler: Mirth running from accountability

Keep in mind, this is the person who not only dated a 12-year-old, but tried to justify it with the old "it's not grooming if you don't do irl stuff with them" lie. When called out, they even doubled down, only to backpedal and claim they'd be "getting help". Yeah buddy, that's what they all say.

Spoiler: "B-but it wasn't sexual so it's legal!!1!"

How long you wanna bet it takes for the FNAF community to figure out about her shit and boot her out? I'll be damned if some FNF groomerfag tries to snake their way into some other community because the last one rejected her. Fucking end me already.

EDIT: Speaking of the whole "how long will it take for people to know", there's already a couple tiny posts on r/fivenightsatfreddys that express my same concerns of "uhhhh isn't this chick a pedo or something?":

r/fivenightsatfreddys - Mirth (aka Kodomachi) is acting suspicious

21 votes and 18 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

r/fivenightsatfreddys - Just to know that mirth was formally known as kodomodachi. Who was a groomer.

15 votes and 9 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

Even redditfags have at least a little bit of rational thought, I guess.

 

[cybertoaster]

This is old news and pretty tame all things considered.

Yeah I figure you have folders of worse stuff, you're obsessed with this shit.

I guess you saw it while browsing something

Literally search for fnaf rule34 and that was the least nsfw one I saw.

But you know that already.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

https://twitter.com/shapedinternet/status/1476249907568824323?s=21

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

I remember when Gears of War 2 came out and learned that they had cut a chapter where you infiltrate the enemy base by wearing disguises, and thought "damn that sounded cool", then some time later the cut chapter was added to the game, I remember thinking that the concpet of DLC was great since the devs could now finish and re-add cut content to the game, fast forward and now devs release broken incomplete games, while the consoomers cope by saying shit like "It's ok they'll fix it later". The concept of this game was promising but a lot of shit was cut, Vanny was heavily featured on marketing but she's barely in the game, the TRUE & HONEST ending to the game doesn't even involve her at all, yeah I know she was possessed by Afton and you fight Afton at the end so you are probably releasing her, but thats gay, he had already been killed and the souls released, why the fuck is he back? He escaped from hell? Is he now going to Double Hell?

 

[A Pile Of Fucking Ashes]

I remember when Gears of War 2 came out and learned that they had cut a chapter where you infiltrate the enemy base by wearing disguises, and thought "damn that sounded cool", then some time later the cut chapter was added to the game, I remember thinking that the concpet of DLC was great since the devs could now finish and re-add cut content to the game, fast forward and now devs release broken incomplete games, while the consoomers cope by saying shit like "It's ok they'll fix it later". The concept of this game was promising but a lot of shit was cut, Vanny was heavily featured on marketing but she's barely in the game, the TRUE & HONEST ending to the game doesn't even involve her at all, yeah I know she was possessed by Afton and you fight Afton at the end so you are probably releasing her, but thats gay, he had already been killed and the souls released, why the fuck is he back? He escaped from hell? Is he now going to Double Hell?

He'll probably be back in yet another form by the next game, I can bet my left kidney on that

 

[TurkishOreo]

He'll probably be back in yet another form by the next game, I can bet my left kidney on that

He'll be back as "a" Pile Of Fucking Ashes because of that fire.

I fully believe that Afton's Glitchtrap AI copied and spread itself across the whole Pizzaplex. Atleast if that's what the therapist CDs mean.

 

[Sailor]

SB was far, far too big. The pizzaplex was just so big and we only had three (and Musicman and Moonman which I'm still calling him) animatronics following Gregory. We should of had lots more running around in a place that big.

The game was also far too long for what it's selling. I got the strong feeling that Steelwool devs were autisticaly packing in as many Easter eggs, secret endings, lore, ect as they could rather than focusing on the game and adding that last.

What annoys me is Afton. So, Afton was under the pizzaplex and he was only used for two seconds in a ending? Sorry what? Afton should of been the main threat. Think about this. After 35 so years after playing with himself he could go back to his favourite hobby of child killing, hoping hungrily behind you, desperately trying to rip you apart. He was the only animatronic that looked terrorizing, especially as we would be playing as a child.

 

[c-no]

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The Nerdskull (@the_nerd_skull)

Maybe don't buy the game and stop giving Scott Cawthon free publicity by sexing up his characters, furries. He literally thinks your rights should be taken away for having queer thoughts about his characters.

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...same of before.

Oh hey it's the guy we have a thread on who likes to think anyone talking shit about him must be a Nazi or a Kiwi Farmer. Also to answer the Redditor's question: Scott will probably get money because he has the license for the game unless he went the path of Notch and sold it off for money. Also Nerdskull can screech all he wants but knowing furries, some just want to fuck the animatronic bear and I wouldn't be surprised if a number of them were simply doing fan-art but never bothered to play any of the games.

That's something I never really understood about post Pizza Sim games. How in the everloving FUCK would Fazbear Entertainment even bounce back from something like that? They literally cease to be a corporate entity at the end of FNAF 6, yet they're somehow not only back, but have enough money to build an entire goddamn MALL??? Even if they somehow DID survive past FNAF 6, they would at best be a rundown backwards company barely able to keep itself running with what little scraps of money they had. And no amount of bullshitting and cover-ups would save them either. There's no fucking way there are any companies in-universe willing to cooperate with Fazbear Entertainment, not with the trail of dead children and negligence strewn across it's legacy. The ONLY conceivable way it could have even had a CHANCE at surviving was if some larger corporation with similarly absent morals decided to buy out the property and "reboot" it in a way, only for that company to slowly get corrupted by ex-Fazbear employees and basically "become" Fazbear Entertainment in a way. And even then, they'd probably have to get a lot of their money from... less than legal means.

William Afton needs to die for sure, though. He had his time in the spotlight, just fucking kill him off for good already. If you really wanna continue the whole killer main antagonist route, just utilize Vanny more and have her be more than just a side lackey. Another idea would be to make the company itself the villain. Make them a force to be reckoned with. Maybe they find some shit Afton was experimenting with and think "hey, we could exploit this for profit", and then proceed to experiment with that stuff only for it to blow up in their faces REAL bad. Like, in Security Breach Freddy isn't just an animatronic, he's a full on synthetic lifeform with thoughts and feelings that gets treated as a slave on the daily. There's a LOT you could do with that, and it wouldn't even necessarily have to be Freddy. It could be any other animatronic.

But no, instead we just get the gorillionth reskin of Springtrap

tl;dr FE would realistically be dead post-FNAF 6; we need a new antagonist who isnt just "Afton but more crispy"

I kinda get that vibe too. His passion seems more rooted in film making than a lets-player. Maybe it's a slow transition of sorts so that once he decided to do that other stuff full time, it isn't as jarring of a shift for his audience.

Another thing to note: apparently his channel was originally gonna be more sketch-oriented, with him playing multiple characters (hence the name "Markiplier"). All these short film and sketches seem to show that desire hasn't gone away for him. His let-plays are more filler to pad time in between the projects he actually seems to care about.

Corporation buying off the franchise and possibly banking in on furries (which could also work as an IRL nod considering how many furries could jump onto the series) and the generic evil corporate-government/military contracting that goes on (the whole robots and all that may as well have some military application on top of using people not knowing what really goes on to tie with the idea of people being unaware guinea pigs). Just abandon all the spooky ghost of Afton stuff and just make it be more of a kid or an adult finding out the pizza plex turns out to be some kind of test facility when the lights are off and they end up having to try and survive the bullshit within it (robots trying to hunt them down while dressed up in fursuits could probably work as some sort of infiltration bot stuff or something for military use) and maybe dealing with a machine gaining sentience/sapience and being a possible threat because of faulty programming or said corporate trying to test more out since they managed to get a new guinea pig that is the player. I never paid much attention to this series but seeing as what others have said, the devs may as well have a very mangled story that leaves a lot of questions like why is some bad guy from a previous game that got burned down back to do some kind of bullshit with little or no build up.

I actually like the idea of it being played straight, if it was actually done in an interesting fashion. The idea of what we’ve gotten so far not being the full story could work as a twist and an easy way to potentially transition into a new canon, yet… that’s really not what they did. No, instead they put an active threat to the current Pizzaplex, Glitchtrap, into the VR game because… concealment, somehow?

Playing it all straight in some guy's game, possibly with the player actually being trapped in some kind of VR hell to explain why you'd be there in the first place could of been something that would transition into a new canon or at least take it to a better turn than some fursuit skeleton.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

The concept of this game was promising but a lot of shit was cut, Vanny was heavily featured on marketing but she's barely in the game, the TRUE & HONEST ending to the game doesn't even involve her at all, yeah I know she was possessed by Afton and you fight Afton at the end so you are probably releasing her, but thats gay, he had already been killed and the souls released, why the fuck is he back? He escaped from hell? Is he now going to Double Hell?

Reminds me of M. Bison from Street Fighter. He was supposed to be dead in the 2nd game thanks to Akuma but both 4 and 5 were like "he's not REALLY dead, his Psycho Spirit is in a NEW body that's better than his old one", basically lifting the excuse from Alpha 3 even though that game was a prequel and 3rd Strike never mentions M. Bison at all. I'm sure Capcom will add him back in 6 unless they pull another 3rd Strike and make it all new characters. Geese from Fatal Fury had a similar issue too until SNK came to their senses.

Again, I honestly think the story was all Steel Wool's doing. IMDB is the only site that has Scott as a writer and director, when every other site just lists him as a publisher. I watched the credits on youtube and it's just wall-to-wall of animators, engineers, lighting, QA testers, and other development stuff. Only one StoryBoard credit, but it was only for the art and not the actual story itself. The cold hard fact is that Scott killed off Afton for good, UCN was supposed to be purple guy in purgatory after Pizza Simulator burned him to death. Going "but his soul lives FOREVER!!!" just reeks of desperation and lack of any creativity or thought.

The general consensus I've been getting online is that people actually like Vanessa, and in some cases feel bad for her that the kid protagonist is making her job harder by being inside after hours. Steel Wool COULD have developed her more into a memorable antagonist alongside Vanny and just have their own version of "Purple Guy". There's just so much missed potential.