Orbiter Flamenco / FlamencoTV / Joshua Clayton Connor - The most autistic and degenerate thread on the site. Fierce torrenting of hentai mass debates. Possibly a pedo, can still pull more viewers than Ralph.

[AnOminous]

I just think if he wanted to join a pedo Steam group why did he join one where he can't even talk to people? Still it's pretty funny that someone with such a sus fetish history always ends up in these weird situations involving highly questionable people.

Scots law has three possible jury findings, of which two are, like ours, guilty and not guilty. Flamenco falls under the third: not proven.

 

[Foghorns at a Funeral]

"He knows tons of people, and a percentage of those people are bad, so that means he's a pedo."

I think this one was so insulting at the level of intellectual dishonesty on show. With the internet being as big as it is and has so many billion people talking on it at once. You are statistically likely to talk to a pedo, in some chat room/steam chat and not know it or care to do in depth profile checks. I don't like Furry's, but i have had to play nice with one in a COD lobby before.

 

[WeWuzHeretics]

He claimed that just because he watched porn tagged as pegging that he wasn't into pegging, until Warski pulled up the screencap of Flamenco soliciting a prostitute who offered pegging services. With Dimitri, Flamenco went from saying he was some guy he barely knew to a guy he watched movies with to a friend whom he was close enough with that he couldn't give unbiased commentary on. As for the Steam group, I'd abeeb bear already pointed out Flam's inconsistency throughout the stream:

If you want to be even remotely good faith, the porn stuff shouldn't be involved since it's really not hard to understand why someone is going to try and salvage a shred of their dignity when their entire porn history gets leaked and say they weren't into the most degenerate aspects of it. You'd have to be an absolute retard to not try and minimize it to some degree.

The steam group stuff is just dumb though, no one vets every one of their steam friend's profiles, especially if they make a habit of adding damn near everyone who sends a request. All of those "changing stories" can be summarized as "I was invited to a group, so yeah I knew it existed, but I never checked in on it, I don't remember his original pic but it wasn't that." Pretty simple explanation.

 

[Sneedlerino]

Probably because of people making autistic reaches like this to rage and call someone a pedo. Dude's a wierdo but you're sperging out just as much over weak shit.

Not really.

It shows a pattern of behavior. This kind of shit keeps on happening. Little bit here, little bit there. At what point do you stop and say "you know, this is kind of weird and there might be something to all of this"? How much little things to do you need? The guy lies, especially when confronted about wrongdoing. He associates with known and confirmed molesters and pedophiles. He has an interest in underage explicit material. He partakes in more extreme fetishes. He was part of a pedophile group chat. That's more than just being a "weirdo". That's far into the dangerous/don't let him around children territory.

How much smoke do you need to breathe in before you suspect the house might be on fire? There's nothing any of us can realistically do, but I'm not willing to write this off as another "smear campaign". There's been too much that has happened and there is a pattern of behavior to where I can't give the benefit of the doubt. I just can't.

 

[UncleTeddy]

What the fuck is this? Why are people carrying water for Faggotmenco? It's like people have forgotten that he lied in the last stream he did with Kino Casino, he lied in this stream, he has a history of engaging in really fucking weird and gross fetishes, is all about loli and shota, was friends with a pedophile, wouldn't write him off because he's a "friend of the show" (Flamenco IS the show so he's a friend to Flamenco), took his sweet ass time writing off the dude that molested his sister for YEARS, and is now outed as being in this confirmed pedophile group chat.

Where there's smoke, there's fire. When you surround yourself with disgusting perverts, the odds of you being one is pretty fucking high. Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining. It's not like Kino Casino can execute search warrants on people's computers to gather evidence.

Do I think Flamenco rapes kids? No, I don't. Do I think he beats his autistic little dick to fucked up shit that is likely CP? Yeah, I do. Flamenco has shown himself to be a liar, a pervert, and an overall unsavory individual that shouldn't be allowed on the internet. Would you let Flamenco watch your kids unattended? Fuck no you wouldn't. Because you don't trust him to keep his dick in his pants. At what point do you say "okay, he's a pedophile"? When he's raping kids on livestream?

There's more than enough that was presented that shows that Flamenco isn't truthful, he walks shit back constantly, and he associates himself with dregs to the point I wouldn't be at all shocked if there was a folder on his computer just for underage drawings or pictures of children. That. in and of itself, is enough for me. He's not truthful, has been shown to be not truthful. So why the fuck should I or anyone for that matter give him the benefit of any doubt? Fuck that.

There's too much to be ignored. Too many inconsistencies. Too many lies. Too many "coincidences".

I see some people upset over throwing around pedo accusations frivolously, and some people upset at the content. PPP and Godwinson went way off topic and launched into the degenerate fetishes of fagmenco, this clearly upset the fagmenco fans who share these fetishes. You can tell how attacked they feel, almost as though the Kino Casino is insinuating they're pedos too. Then there's just the braindead fagmenco fans who've ridden in on their wooden horses to defend a recently divorced guntguard.

I don't see it ending well for any of the latter, this guy is a literal-who e-celeb and people have only just started digging into him. In a matter of a month they've struck gold (debatably) twice. What else are people going to find on this guy, he's certainly not good at hiding things.

 

[Col]

I think this one was so insulting at the level of intellectual dishonesty on show. With the internet being as big as it is and has so many billion people talking on it at once. You are statistically likely to talk to a pedo, in some chat room/steam chat and not know it or care to do in depth profile checks. I don't like Furry's, but i have had to play nice with one in a COD lobby before.

In addition we can even do a small comparison.
0.6% of the U.S adult population say they are trannys.

How Many Adults Identify as Transgender in the United States?

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu

(looking for a source for the this next part I found this... Yikes)

Approximately 1 to 5% of the male population is estimated to have pedophilia.

Media Coverage of Pedophilia: Benefits and Risks from Healthcare Practitioners’ Point of View

Think of how many trannys are involved in KF, or the internet drama community. It is statistically more likely that Flam and all these streamers know a male pedophile then they would know a Tranny.

 

[Table Country]

Reminds me of the Jim Can't Swim vids. The guilty party is usually calm and rational, trying to explain away the "coincidences" and acting understanding as to why police would suspect them, while the innocent ones are usually angry and offended at being accused and questioned.

Exactly, just the other day he was defending himself completely straightfaced, lying in complete calmness and here he is today freaking the fuck out and crying about it.
Like everything else it definitely doesn't prove anything, but it is interesting to note. All-in-all, guilty or innocent I don't see this ending well for him.

 

[Foghorns at a Funeral]

I see some people upset over throwing around pedo accusations frivolously, and some people upset at the content. PPP and Godwinson went way off topic and launched into the degenerate fetishes of fagmenco, this clearly upset the fagmenco fans who share these fetishes. You can tell how attacked they feel, almost as though the Kino Casino is insinuating they're pedos too. Then there's just the braindead fagmenco fans who've ridden in on their wooden horses to defend a recently divorced guntguard.

I don't see it ending well for any of the latter, this guy is a literal-who e-celeb and people have only just started digging into him. In a matter of a month they've struck gold (debatably) twice. What else are people going to find on this guy, he's certainly not good at hiding things.

I just want a refund. I was told a pedo would be getting hung. Yet all i got was blue balled. Stop over thinking things.

 

[Automaton Type 2B]

Even KC chat was turning against them. PPP and Godwinson got roasted by superchats, and had more than 1k dislikes on the video (alot more than the likes) PPP had to cope about the polls TWICE. Flam BEGGED him to show any evidence that he participated in the chat (even threatening to leave) and they still couldn't show anything. PPP lied multiple times about Flam defending Tux even though Flam vehemently condemed him. Kept confusing which chat Flam was in.

Flam is definitely sus , but this was a total shit show on PPPs part.

Like I said, they dropped the ball. If they had proof, drop it.

This shit show will make things interesting going forward.

Most of all, jim lucked out again avoiding a trash fire. VERY interesting.

 

[TyrasGuard]

The lenghts some people will go just to coom never ceases to amaze me

 

[AnOminous]

Like I said, they dropped the ball. If they had proof, drop it.

This shit show will make things interesting going forward.

Most of all, jim lucked out again avoiding a trash fire. VERY interesting.

He can tell a trash fire when he sees one and he's going to be sitting on the sidelines giggling, not jumping in it.

 

[Rotollo 2]

I just want a refund. I was told a pedo would be getting hung. Yet all i got was blue balled. Stop over thinking things.

this is why real PPP fans never donate
reject modernity, return to Kino Dogma 2007

 

[Boss Hawg]

The lenghts some people will go just to coom never ceases to amaze me

Cooming and Pornography have been a disaster for the human race.

 

[Quintus]

Just finished watching the casino. Went into it predisposed to not liking Flamenco because he's a vtuber and likes anime. I thought he looked really bad in the pegmenco stream denying things. But this was a shit show. It is really weird that Flamenco was in that group. But PPP and Godwinson kept talking about the evidence they had and never presented anything really definitive. Easily the worst showing by the Casino so far. Honestly Flamenco did a hell of a lot better defending themselves then the last time. Is Flamenco a degenerate? Yes. But is he a pedophile? The jury still out. And that isn't an accusation you should throw around lightly.

 

[WeWuzHeretics]

Not really.

It shows a pattern of behavior. This kind of shit keeps on happening. Little bit here, little bit there. At what point do you stop and say "you know, this is kind of weird and there might be something to all of this"? How much little things to do you need? The guy lies, especially when confronted about wrongdoing. He associates with known and confirmed molesters and pedophiles. He has an interest in underage explicit material. He partakes in more extreme fetishes. He was part of a pedophile group chat. That's more than just being a "weirdo". That's far into the dangerous/don't let him around children territory.

How much smoke do you need to breathe in before you suspect the house might be on fire? There's nothing any of us can realistically do, but I'm not willing to write this off as another "smear campaign". There's been too much that has happened and there is a pattern of behavior to where I can't give the benefit of the doubt. I just can't.

Yes really.

It only shows a pattern if you accept anything in this specific stream adds to that pattern, which it clearly doesn't unless you're already predisposed to thinking it does. No one looking at this stream rationally can say he was lying about the Steam Group and Tux shit, and the Demitri bit is a pretty big fuckin reach.

Basically all you have is the porn shit, and yeah, it's disgusting degenerate shit. But it's a far cry from being able to label someone a pedophile.

 

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If you want to be even remotely good faith, the porn stuff shouldn't be involved since it's really not hard to understand why someone is going to try and salvage a shred of their dignity when their entire porn history gets leaked and say they weren't into the most degenerate aspects of it. You'd have to be an absolute retard to not try and minimize it to some degree.

Let me try reworking this argument a bit:

"If you want to be even remotely good faith, the pedophilia stuff shouldn't be involved since it's really not hard to understand why someone is going to try and salvage a shred of their dignity when their sordid contact history gets leaked and say they weren't into the same things as the people they affiliated with. You'd have to be an absolute retard to not try and minimize it to some degree."

Does that sound sensible to you?

The steam group stuff is just dumb though, no one vets every one of their steam friend's profiles, especially if they make a habit of adding damn near everyone who sends a request. All of those "changing stories" can be summarized as "I was invited to a group, so yeah I knew it existed, but I never checked in on it, I don't remember his original pic but it wasn't that." Pretty simple explanation.

I'm not sure how many times people in this thread have pointed out that accepting Steam friend requests and joining Steam groups are not the same thing, or that Flamenco was only in 6 Steam groups so he clearly wasn't joining every one he came across. Also, you're trying to claim there's a unifying narrative from all of Flamenco's disjointed statements when they contradict each other. Going from "I don't even remember adding that German group" to "The guys in that group all changed their profile pictures to little girls after I joined" is a contradiction. Did he not remember joining or did he remember well enough to memorize their old PFPs?

 

[HeroicIdealism]

I have a feeling that if anything this KC episode just gave Fagmenco more fans

 

[Sicko Hunter]

How the hell do you get dunked on by Flamenco of all people? jesus

 

[Sneedlerino]

I see some people upset over throwing around pedo accusations frivolously, and some people upset at the content. PPP and Godwinson went way off topic and launched into the degenerate fetishes of fagmenco, this clearly upset the fagmenco fans who share these fetishes. You can tell how attacked they feel, almost as though the Kino Casino is insinuating they're pedos too. Then there's just the braindead fagmenco fans who've ridden in on their wooden horses to defend a recently divorced guntguard.

I don't see it ending well for any of the latter, this guy is a literal-who e-celeb and people have only just started digging into him. In a matter of a month they've struck gold (debatably) twice. What else are people going to find on this guy, he's certainly not good at hiding things.

Being labeled as a pedophile is a serious accusation and it shouldn't be thrown around.

You could argue that PPP and Godwinson were trying to weave the narrative of Flamenco being an overall unsavory individual and that's why they went into his porn habits, his friends, his interests, his lack of writing off people confirmed as being sex offenders. It goes to Flamenco's character and his overall trustworthiness. Flamenco lies. He surrounds himself with desensitizing and sexually perverted things. He associates himself with awful people that engage in illegal abusive actions. He has a history of more extreme fetishes. He was apart of a pedophile group chat. When confronted, he takes no stance on it, or he attempts to lie about it. So why should anyone believe what he says? What credibility does he actually have?

When should a reasonable person stop giving the benefit of the doubt? When do the little things add up? When does it stop being a coincidence and start being a pattern of behavior that the more people dig into, the worse it gets?

The people that indulge in loli/shota are kind of one step removed from being into actual children. It wouldn't take a large jump so I guess, it was kind of an attack. Just because people are going after Flamenco doesn't mean they don't hate Ralph still. It's not axis and allies. Just because Flamenco doesn't like Ralph doesn't mean he's a good guy and is above suspicion.

 

[Boss Hawg]

Honestly Flamenco did a hell of a lot better defending themselves then the last time.

At least he's learning from the past few times he's had to defend his degeneracy. He's not completely retarded.