Orbiter Flamenco / FlamencoTV / Joshua Clayton Connor - The most autistic and degenerate thread on the site. Fierce torrenting of hentai mass debates. Possibly a pedo, can still pull more viewers than Ralph.

[Rogal Dorn]

EXTERMINATUS. SANCTION EXTREMIS.

 

[Obsul]

Pegmenco is most likely a pedophile jacking it to CP but it's not conclusive and the jury's still out, and the Casino fucking humiliated themselves and came off as unprepared retards. Those are the takeaways for me.

 

[Demonslayer1776]

I have received word from a very reliable anonymous source that the reason Flamenco was in the steam group was because it was originally formed by gamergate veteran Ethan Oliver Ralph. Ralph made the steam group to share pedophilic materials with Killstream donators, and accidentally invited Flamenco when he was a cohost. If Ralph takes any issue with this, I think he needs to come forward with definitive proof that he was not in the Steam group. This is a damning conviction

 

[Irish Pug]

Not really.

It shows a pattern of behavior. This kind of shit keeps on happening. Little bit here, little bit there. At what point do you stop and say "you know, this is kind of weird and there might be something to all of this"? How much little things to do you need? The guy lies, especially when confronted about wrongdoing. He associates with known and confirmed molesters and pedophiles. He has an interest in underage explicit material. He partakes in more extreme fetishes. He was part of a pedophile group chat. That's more than just being a "weirdo". That's far into the dangerous/don't let him around children territory.

How much smoke do you need to breathe in before you suspect the house might be on fire? There's nothing any of us can realistically do, but I'm not willing to write this off as another "smear campaign". There's been too much that has happened and there is a pattern of behavior to where I can't give the benefit of the doubt. I just can't.

The fact that all his shit got leaked, his entire porn history, chat logs going back years, old 4chan post, and even stream groups he was a part of and there is not a single piece of substantial evidence to prove he's a pedo is really telling. Do you really want me to believe he was a pedophile but didn't post a single time in the supposed pedophile group he was in for over a year? You can dig up old /soc/ ads from a decade ago where he's asking to get pegged by an older woman but nothing about underage girls?

 

[Automaton Type 2B]

Pegmenco is most likely a pedophile jacking it to CP but it's not conclusive and the jury's still out, and the Casino fucking humiliated themselves and came off as unprepared retards. Those are the takeaways for me.

They should have prepared and saved it for friday if they really had anything.

Tonight should have had jaden on and focused exclusively on nick and AF.

Flam rage quiting cucked the casino out of at least another hour or two of the show.

 

[HeroicIdealism]

I'm not sure how many times people in this thread have pointed out that accepting Steam friend requests and joining Steam groups are not the same thing, or that Flamenco was only in 6 Steam groups so he clearly wasn't joining every one he came across. Also, you're trying to claim there's a unifying narrative from all of Flamenco's disjointed statements when they contradict each other. Going from "I don't even remember adding that German group" to "The guys in that group all changed their profile pictures to little girls after I joined" is a contradiction. Did he not remember joining or did he remember well enough to memorize their old PFPs?

Yeah I honestly don't get the excuse "well it's not weird that I wouldn't know much about what groups I'm in" or "how would I know what type of people are in this group?" I basically never use Steam anymore but I still consciously knew what groups I joined and I had an idea of who was in the group based on comments. This would be even more evident if the group was small, with only 9 members. It's such a weasely excuse and the fact that more people aren't seeing through it is disconcerting.

 

[Noproblemo]

We could've had the Jesse penis inspection stream had PPP not jumped the shark. Shameful.

 

[Sneedlerino]

The fact that all his shit got leaked, his entire porn history, chat logs going back years, old 4chan post, and even stream groups he was a part of and there is not a single piece of substantial evidence to prove he's a pedo is really telling. Do you really want me to believe he was a pedophile but didn't post a single time in the supposed pedophile group he was in for over a year? You can dig up old /soc/ ads from a decade ago where he's asking to get pegged by an older woman but nothing about underage girls?

Does he rape kids? No. I don't think that. Does he beat his little dick to kids? Probably.

How do you know he didn't post anything? There wasn't anything in that group chat at all. So it was likely purged. Either by Steam during a maint or reset, or by the users. He's into loli and shota. You know, drawn kids being fucked and sexually humiliated? It's not a huge jump from jacking off to loli to jacking off to CP. The propensity is there. He is personal friends with a pedophile and he defends a guy who committed child molestation against his sister. Flamenco is a terminally online person. These people are close to him. His closeted nature desensitizes him from societal norms on what is acceptable and not. Couple that with his history of lying, and his past and you have a lot of coincidences. Too many for me to be comfortable with.

A person can be a pedophile while not actually abusing children. Getting off to them is also pedophilia.

 

[WeWuzHeretics]

Let me try reworking this argument a bit:

"If you want to be even remotely good faith, the pedophilia stuff shouldn't be involved since it's really not hard to understand why someone is going to try and salvage a shred of their dignity when their sordid contact history gets leaked and say they weren't into the same things as the people they affiliated with. You'd have to be an absolute retard to not try and minimize it to some degree."

Does that sound sensible to you?



I'm not sure how many times people in this thread have pointed out that accepting Steam friend requests and joining Steam groups are not the same thing, or that Flamenco was only in 6 Steam groups so he clearly wasn't joining every one he came across. Also, you're trying to claim there's a unifying narrative from all of Flamenco's disjointed statements when they contradict each other. Going from "I don't even remember adding that German group" to "The guys in that group all changed their profile pictures to little girls after I joined" is a contradiction. Did he not remember joining or did he remember well enough to memorize their old PFPs?

"If I completely change the severity of the statement does that make it sound sensible?" Minimizing porn makes sense and is something everyone would do, minimizing pedophilia would (rightfully) make someone look more guilty and disgusting.

They quite literally are the same thing, the only difference is practically no one uses Steam groups on a personal level outside of the odd review/large community based ones like PCMR or some shit. Fuck I'm in 5 steam groups right now that I haven't looked at in years, that old Rust one I joined could be filled to the brim with pedophiles and I would never know. This is why this whole argument doesn't work outside of friendless spergs, it's pretty common to add people you never associate more than once or join groups you never interact with.

I really don't see that as a contradiction especially if you put it in context with how he explained it. Clearly he said he accepted the random group invite and never thought much about it, and the pfp conversation was all had with the context that archive screenshots were being looked at during/before the discussion and he said the guys must have changed their pictures afterwards since it wasn't that originally. You have to see how autistically nitpicky this is.

 

[Foghorns at a Funeral]

Yeah I honestly don't get the excuse "well it's not weird that I wouldn't know much about what groups I'm in" or "how would I know what type of people are in this group?" I basically never use Steam anymore but I still consciously knew what groups I joined and I had an idea of who was in the group based on comments. This would be even more evident if the group was small, with only 9 members. It's such a weasely excuse and the fact that more people aren't seeing through it is disconcerting.

I don't find it so. I have steam groups from all the CS:GO servers i have visited. Do you honestly expect people to start vetting everyone of them because in the 200 ones in my list, there may be a pedo in one? I know this is the farms and we are supposed to be over critical, but defending an indefensible position purely to pwn a lolcow is a silly thing to do and all it will do is give a lolcow an easy win. Flam will fuck up, but this time he slipped the net and made the fisherman fall in to the river.

 

[HeroicIdealism]

I don't find it so. I have steam groups from all the CS:GO servers i have visited. Do you honestly expect people to start vetting everyone of them because in the 200 ones in my list, there may be a pedo in one? I know this is the farms and we are supposed to be over critical, but defending an indefensible position purely to pwn a lolcow is a silly thing to do and all it will do is give a lolcow and easy win. Flam will fuck up, but this time he slipped the net and made the fisherman fall in to the river.

Flam wasn't in 200 groups though. He was in 6.

 

[Popper Whiting]

Yeah I honestly don't get the excuse "well it's not weird that I wouldn't know much about what groups I'm in" or "how would I know what type of people are in this group?" I basically never use Steam anymore but I still consciously knew what groups I joined and I had an idea of who was in the group based on comments. This would be even more evident if the group was small, with only 9 members. It's such a weasely excuse and the fact that more people aren't seeing through it is disconcerting.

I've only ever seen drama and problems from joining a Discord server and Steam groups, and people never "accidently" join either. Flam's story doesn't hold up but unfortunately it is more a red flag than a killshot.

 

[Foghorns at a Funeral]

Flam wasn't in 200 groups though. He was in 6.

The number really does not matter. Guilt by association is really gay. I can do the same thing to you. You have statistically talked to a pedo at least once in the last year. So that makes you a pedo. Now defend yourself. As i keep saying, you need something concrete as a killshot when it comes to things like this. If you can find me it, i will be right behind you making the rope to hang him with.
Anyways i am done talking about this.

 

[Irish Pug]

He defends a guy who committed child molestation against his sister.

Except he literally didn't though and repeatedly condemned Tux thoughout the stream. The fact that PPP had to constantly lie about that really showed that he had nothing and was just trying to pin whatever he could. He DESPERATLY wanted Flam to be a pedo but after all his digging couldn't come up with anything. Even if the porn stuff didn't exist they'd still call Flam a pedo, just like Ralph does with Null.

 

[Nobunaga]

What the fuck is this? Why are people carrying water for Faggotmenco? It's like people have forgotten that he lied in the last stream he did with Kino Casino, he lied in this stream, he has a history of engaging in really fucking weird and gross fetishes, is all about loli and shota, was friends with a pedophile, wouldn't write him off because he's a "friend of the show" (Flamenco IS the show so he's a friend to Flamenco), took his sweet ass time writing off the dude that molested his sister for YEARS, and is now outed as being in this confirmed pedophile group chat.

Where there's smoke, there's fire. When you surround yourself with disgusting perverts, the odds of you being one is pretty fucking high. Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining. It's not like Kino Casino can execute search warrants on people's computers to gather evidence.

Do I think Flamenco rapes kids? No, I don't. Do I think he beats his autistic little dick to fucked up shit that is likely CP? Yeah, I do. Flamenco has shown himself to be a liar, a pervert, and an overall unsavory individual that shouldn't be allowed on the internet. Would you let Flamenco watch your kids unattended? Fuck no you wouldn't. Because you don't trust him to keep his dick in his pants. At what point do you say "okay, he's a pedophile"? When he's raping kids on livestream?

There's more than enough that was presented that shows that Flamenco isn't truthful, he walks shit back constantly, and he associates himself with dregs to the point I wouldn't be at all shocked if there was a folder on his computer just for underage drawings or pictures of children. That. in and of itself, is enough for me. He's not truthful, has been shown to be not truthful. So why the fuck should I or anyone for that matter give him the benefit of any doubt? Fuck that.

There's too much to be ignored. Too many inconsistencies. Too many lies. Too many ,"coincidences".

You have a coomer pic, have a dead /tv/ meme as a name and type like a redditor, meaning you are a pedo

 

[Bixnood]

Kinda feel bad for flam, he can't really prove a negative. so nibbas are just gonna assume he is a pedo and there is no way to disprove it. but then again he is a weeb and I hate weebs.

 

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"If I completely change the severity of the statement does that make it sound sensible?" Minimizing porn makes sense and is something everyone would do, minimizing pedophilia would (rightfully) make someone look more guilty and disgusting.

Making the situation more severe illustrates my point. If Flamenco is willing to lie over something as petty and publicly verifiable as his porn history, then of course he would lie about being a pedophile because that's way more important. The whole point of PPP and Godwinson interrogating him on that stuff was to demonstrate his lack of credibility.

They quite literally are the same thing, the only difference is practically no one uses Steam groups on a personal level outside of the odd review/large community based ones like PCMR or some shit. Fuck I'm in 5 steam groups right now that I haven't looked at in years, that old Rust one I joined could be filled to the brim with pedophiles and I would never know. This is why this whole argument doesn't work outside of friendless spergs, it's pretty common to add people you never associate more than once or join groups you never interact with.

I really don't see that as a contradiction especially if you put it in context with how he explained it. Clearly he said he accepted the random group invite and never thought much about it, and the pfp conversation was all had with the context that archive screenshots were being looked at during/before the discussion and he said the guys must have changed their pictures afterwards since it wasn't that originally. You have to see how autistically nitpicky this is.

Adding friends on Steam and joining groups are not the same thing. I don't know why you even take issue with that.

Flamenco was only in 6 Steam groups which pertained to people relevant to his streaming career except the German one. Am I to believe he randomly added one Steam group and then stopped?

On top of that, the pedo group only had 9 members, and they were all flagrantly pedophilic in nature in both their pictures and text. It's not like Flamenco had to sift through hundreds of members before deciding whether the group was worth joining, and if he looked at just one person he'd know how fucked the group is. And it's ridiculous to assume that the group was totally innocent and then one day every member decided to become a pedo. And as for the profile pictures, again, how would he be able to tell from the archive images that they changed them from when he first joined if he added the group absentmindedly? If he doesn't remember adding them (his claim), why would he remember what their original profile pictures were well enough to know that they've been changed?

 

[Duke-Diggler]

I mean, was it really just bantering? Flamenco has a documented history of not being truthful, especially when it comes to his poor behavior and choices, associating himself with horrifically awful people that have admitted to doing heinous things, engaging in real unsavory things, being interested in loli/shota, and now being part of a pedo group chat. That's not banter. There's no smoking gun and there's no victim that can come forward. But that doesn't absolve him of anything. I'm not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. There's a pattern of behavior with his own choices and the people he chooses to associate himself with. If he had come clean the first time and was quick to drop the people that turned out to be horrifically perverted, then I might be willing to hear him out. But he didn't. There's just too many "little things" that have happened. That keep happening.

PPP was glib about the whole thing, which is a problem. It casts doubt on his intentions (even if he did all this for his own selfish motives, you don't out yourself). I'm sure PPP was pissed at Flamenco for lying to him the first time and that was part of why he chose to go hard at Flamenco, but you don't just shrug at the 5 yard line. You rearticulate your stance into a more coherent point and stick with it.

If PPP or Godwinson have undeniable proof that Flamenco is a pedo, they should have shown it.

All they have are speculations and guilt by associations.

That is not a convincing argument to stand on. It makes you look stupid.

 

[Sneedlerino]

You have a coomer pic, have a dead /tv/ meme as a name and type like a redditor, meaning you are a pedo

It's not loli.

I'm not very original.

How does someone from Reddit type? I use the English language and punctuate.

I don't surround myself with and have mods that are sex offenders, I don't join steam groups that pedophiles set up. I don't have extreme fetishes. I don't get off to cartoons of 9000 year old children of whatever the fuck they use as a way to try to dodge being called fucking perverts.

So I have that going for me. Other than the typing thing. Not sure how that's a dig, but I'll try to work on it.

 

[Westfalia]

What the fuck is this? Why are people carrying water for Faggotmenco? It's like people have forgotten that he lied in the last stream he did with Kino Casino, he lied in this stream, he has a history of engaging in really fucking weird and gross fetishes, is all about loli and shota, was friends with a pedophile, wouldn't write him off because he's a "friend of the show" (Flamenco IS the show so he's a friend to Flamenco), took his sweet ass time writing off the dude that molested his sister for YEARS, and is now outed as being in this confirmed pedophile group chat.

Where there's smoke, there's fire. When you surround yourself with disgusting perverts, the odds of you being one is pretty fucking high. Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining. It's not like Kino Casino can execute search warrants on people's computers to gather evidence.

Do I think Flamenco rapes kids? No, I don't. Do I think he beats his autistic little dick to fucked up shit that is likely CP? Yeah, I do. Flamenco has shown himself to be a liar, a pervert, and an overall unsavory individual that shouldn't be allowed on the internet. Would you let Flamenco watch your kids unattended? Fuck no you wouldn't. Because you don't trust him to keep his dick in his pants. At what point do you say "okay, he's a pedophile"? When he's raping kids on livestream?

There's more than enough that was presented that shows that Flamenco isn't truthful, he walks shit back constantly, and he associates himself with dregs to the point I wouldn't be at all shocked if there was a folder on his computer just for underage drawings or pictures of children. That. in and of itself, is enough for me. He's not truthful, has been shown to be not truthful. So why the fuck should I or anyone for that matter give him the benefit of any doubt? Fuck that.

There's too much to be ignored. Too many inconsistencies. Too many lies. Too many "coincidences".

I'm here to laugh at this autistic retard as much as us all
But calling someone a pedo is life ruination (daddy Jim reference not intended) come with some fucking ammo to back it up
The pedo claim is so played out it's like calling someone a nazi at this point, its efficacy is lost.
Is flam a fucking autist sexual deviant? Absolutely. Can we say he sexualizes children and deserves a cure of high velocity lead poison? Absolutely not (at this current juncture)
In fact this casino made me look at my steam groups I'm in and holy fuck, the only people engaging in the steam platform as social media are literal friendless degenerate retards.
Flam is suspicious as fuck and deserves looking into but calling him a pedo is a bigger stretch than Fuentes' ass thinking about catbois