FLESH SIMULATOR - The Internet's least suicidal content creator, not a Cruelty Squad DLC

[BallsGuevara]

On one hand, Flesh could've avoided all this by just ignoring what a bunch of terminally online e-maoists say. His inability to walk away from pointless twitter drama is lolcow behavior.
On the other, the people attacking him are aids made into the shape of a human so I wish him success in whatever he's doing lawsuit wise. Death to trannies, death to animal abusers and death to cringe e-commies.

Either way, its really funny to see the terminally online tranny left push one more relatively sane leftist towards the right.

 

[A Pale Shadow]

On one hand, Flesh could've avoided all this by just ignoring what a bunch of terminally online e-maoists say. His inability to walk away from pointless twitter drama is lolcow behavior.
On the other, the people attacking him are aids made into the shape of a human so I wish him success in whatever he's doing lawsuit wise. Death to trannies, death to animal abusers and death to cringe e-commies.

Either way, its really funny to see the terminally online tranny left push one more relatively sane leftist towards the right.

Took the words right out of my mouth. I don't give a shit about any of this, and Flesh is a cow for engaging in gay internet slapfights, all I care about is funny conspiracy videos that look like B-roll from The Matrix. I hate his opponents though, so I'm glad to see them taken down a peg. Rate me optimistic, but maybe this will actually get Flesh to chudd out.

 

[BallsGuevara]

Took the words right out of my mouth. I don't give a shit about any of this, and Flesh is a cow for engaging in gay internet slapfights, all I care about is funny conspiracy videos that look like B-roll from The Matrix. I hate his opponents though, so I'm glad to see them taken down a peg. Rate me optimistic, but maybe this will actually get Flesh to chudd out.

I doubt he'll ever openly identify as right wing, but given that the right wing/right leaning figures he's interacted with have all treated him well and been willing to work with him despite large disagreements, while e-commies are literally threatening to rape his wife over extremely lukewarm takes, I think he's gonna continue gravitating towards the right.

 

[Slash In Brentwood]

I doubt he'll ever openly identify as right wing, but given that the right wing/right leaning figures he's interacted with have all treated him well and been willing to work with him despite large disagreements, while e-commies are literally threatening to rape his wife over extremely lukewarm takes, I think he's gonna continue gravitating towards the right.

It’s so humorous that this whole debacle originated with him (rightly) saying that the guy who ran onto the field during the Super Bowl probably didn’t actually care that much about Palestine and just wanted to be on TV considering his complete omission of the attacks that had happened during the previous Super Bowl. Because of course it doesn’t matter how blatantly self absorbed someone is, if they simply mention they’re doing their selfish act in the name of Palestine they suddenly become beyond reproach. Because someone pointed out something painfully obvious you are willing to attack him and try to ruin his life because bringing attention to the fact that a substantial amount of you are just doing these protests for attention and not for genuine distaste of the genocide will completely strip your ability to act with impunity behind the shield of “social justice” or whatever. I doubt he’ll ever truly chud out, or at least admit to it like you’ve mentioned, but he’s definitely there. Frankly though I’m fine with him being the “sensible yet deranged center left schizo guy”, it’s probably better if he doesn’t openly chud out and just become yet another generic right winger.

 

[No-Eyed Square Guy]

Rate me optimistic, but maybe this will actually get Flesh to chudd out.

I come from the same social milieu Fleshy does. Literally no one "chuds out" from it.

Your avant-garde journey starts with a mild chud-out—you become a light-right "noticer" or connoisseur of old ethnic Americana or fucking electronic textbooks or whatever—and you gradually shrink your understanding of the world until you die an old-lady shitlib.

See, e.g., Steve Albini, who ended his life unwilling to even speak the name of his own band.

Fleshy will someday sue Kiwi Farms. We'll be in the evidence.
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"Deal with Izzat."

 

[I'm a Silly]

and Lex Jewther

Did someone send skulls to Lex Fridman's house? I'm not kidding. I have no idea who Lex Jewther is.

third-worldist fuckyoudadism

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[Carnavoyeur]

Did someone send skulls to Lex Fridman's house? I'm not kidding. I have no idea who Lex Jewther is.

Ethan Klein

 

[BallsGuevara]

Frankly though I’m fine with him being the “sensible yet deranged center left schizo guy”, it’s probably better if he doesn’t openly chud out and just become yet another generic right winger.

I think there's probably value in having a left leaning voice covering the kinds of topics he covers. There's a certain kind of leftist that just isn't going to entertain any ideas floated by a "chud", but probably would care about these topics if they knew more about it. For those people, somebody like Flesh offers a good introduction without immediately offending their sensibilities with a bunch of right wing takes.

Of course, many of those people are likely the same ones who wrote him off for collaborating with Sam Hyde a while back, so who knows.

Either way, I think there is a place for the schizo-left. It used to be more prominent, but has largely disappeared. I saw a comment on one of his videos a while back that described it as the "System of a down left" and I think that's a pretty good point of comparison for what the left has lost. Flesh is channeling a little bit of that.

This recent incident proves that it's a more precarious position to be in than it used to be, though.

 

[Slash In Brentwood]

Of course, many of those people are likely the same ones who wrote him off for collaborating with Sam Hyde a while back, so who knows.

He’s not going to win the hearts and minds of the completely insane leftists that he describes being a part of the modern left that functions much like a stressed skin aircraft where all of their vaguely relevant ideas must be supported for solidarity while ignoring genuine problems or else the whole movement collapses(or more specifically the insane ideas each individual seemingly holds). He is however a bridge to the sensible left who isn’t a wokescold or going to mince his words on real problems that cannot be ignored, and I think he’s good at articulating his points to make them palatable to both sides. I mean for fuck sake he showed how to successfully backdoor critical theory to right wingers. I think my favorite part about flesh, beyond the generally comedic aura he gives off, is how articulate he is. He has a great way of putting ideas I and seemingly many others have struggled to describe into words. Or maybe I’m just retarded but the point still stands for me.

 

[BallsGuevara]

He is however a bridge to the sensible left who isn’t a wokescold or going to mince his words on real problems that cannot be ignored, and I think he’s good at articulating his points to make them palatable to both sides. I mean for fuck sake he showed how to successfully backdoor critical theory to right wingers. I think my favorite part about flesh, beyond the generally comedic aura he gives off, is how articulate he is. He has a great way of putting ideas I and seemingly many others have struggled to describe into words. Or maybe I’m just retarded but the point still stands for me.

That's definitely his main appeal.
I've found his content pretty useful for introducing non political people or non terminally online left leaning people to these topics. Most coverage of this stuff is explicitly right wing coded and that can be a turn off for people who do not already subscribe to some right leaning ideas. Both because they lack a lot of context from not being in right wing spaces and because it can put them on the defensive if everything is being framed from an explicitly right wing ideology lens.

He's good at keeping it to the facts and reasonable speculation about the situation, while being able to articulate why people should care about this stuff regardless of their politics.

His coverage of pizzagate in particular and how it connects to the Epstein situation was something I shared with a few people who had written it off as a "right wing conspiracy theory" and never looked deeper. Just because qanon boomers also talk about something doesn't mean it isn't relevant to everyone, and he's good at cutting through that.

 

[Slash In Brentwood]

He's good at keeping it to the facts and reasonable speculation about the situation, while being able to articulate why people should care about this stuff regardless of their politics.

Exactly! He's not some retard who poisons this discussion and the idea that these problems need to be fixed with "because we need like total nigger death guys, we need to enslave women and kill all darkies and do all this other stupid shit. Hitler was right btw."
This is such a common problem I see where any time someone brings up these problems they either actively poison it with such thoughts, or have spouted such thoughts elsewhere and subsequently delegitimize their point to these people. Sure flesh has said nigger plenty of times and makes blatantly satirical inflammatory remarks, but they don't come off as earnest like a lot of right wing pundits do. At the end of the day he is genuinely compassionate to normal people, while realizing that the bad eggs of all groups need to be dealt with accordingly. Especially if they steal his mail, which is genuinely a crime I think people should get whipped for, and so should any sensible person who doesn't want public services undermined and ruined.

 

[BallsGuevara]

Exactly! He's not some retard who poisons this discussion and the idea that these problems need to be fixed with "because we need like total nigger death guys, we need to enslave women and kill all darkies and do all this other stupid shit. Hitler was right btw."
This is such a common problem I see where any time someone brings up these problems they either actively poison it with such thoughts, or have spouted such thoughts elsewhere and subsequently delegitimize their point to these people. Sure flesh has said nigger plenty of times and makes blatantly satirical inflammatory remarks, but they don't come off as earnest like a lot of right wing pundits do. At the end of the day he is genuinely compassionate to normal people, while realizing that the bad eggs of all groups need to be dealt with accordingly. Especially if they steal his mail, which is genuinely a crime I think people should get whipped for, and so should any sensible person who doesn't want public services undermined and ruined.

Honestly as someone who would probably be considered extreme right myself, even I find his takes rather refreshing since he avoids falling into the traps that a lot of terminally online right wingers do.

The irony is that he's clearly terminally online himself, it just hasn't poisoned his views like it does most online idealogues on the left and right.

Yeah, he says nigger a lot, but that's just a thing for nerdy probably mildly autistic guys our age. He spent a lot of time on 4chan during its heyday and it shows, but there is a clear separation between his twitter edgelord stuff and the content he produces.

His take on the h1b issue is a great example. He's not against it because he hates Indian people or whatever, He's against it because it's capital simultaneously harming the American working class and exploiting the wealth disparity between the West and countries like India while acknowledging that ethnic nepotism is certainly a factor as well.
This is a take my left leaning union activist mother was saying in the 1990s and early 2000s. It's pretty crazy how even talking about it makes you a racist in the eyes of the online left nowadays.

The left becoming coopted by capital is one of the worst things to happen in the western world.

I'm pretty racist myself, I know racism when I see it, even when someone is trying to hide it. This isn't it.

 

[Slash In Brentwood]

My whole stance with the H1B/Mass Migration shit is a lot like what I presume Flesh’s to be, where I don’t believe that there is an intentional white genocide, at least not intentional from the perspective of the real mass movers, though they have recruited crazies lower on the totem pole who DO want one as a means to an end, but more as just a further byproduct of boomer cannibalism of younger generations where they simply want lower wages and higher property values so they can continue to have line go up even when they will never meaningfully use any of this wealth or allow any of their progenitors access to it. It’s profit for profit’s sake, at any cost, even if it means undercutting your own society so you can line your pockets, because none of these finance bros think more than 5 years ahead if that, and you can see it with their decision making.

 

[BallsGuevara]

My whole stance with the H1B/Mass Migration shit is a lot like what I presume Flesh’s to be, where I don’t believe that there is an intentional white genocide, at least not intentional from the perspective of the real mass movers, though they have recruited crazies lower on the totem pole who DO want one as a means to an end, but more as just a further byproduct of boomer cannibalism of younger generations where they simply want lower wages and higher property values so they can continue to have line go up even when they will never meaningfully use any of this wealth or allow any of their progenitors access to it. It’s profit for profit’s sake, at any cost, even if it means undercutting your own society so you can line your pockets, because none of these finance bros think more than 5 years ahead if that, and you can see it with their decision making.

I obviously don't have the video of him talking about it, since he removed all his videos and I don't have them backed up, but it was along the lines of what you're getting at though I don't think he touched on the "white genocide" angle at all.

This is getting away from the topic of the thread, so I'll try to keep my thoughts brief and maybe post something more comprehensive in a more appropriate setting at a later time. I think the ethnic replacement of Europeans and their descendants, colloquially called white genocide (a term I prefer not to use, myself) is not really the goal from the top. It's an acceptable sacrifice. The 1% will likely remain majority white, white-jewish and a minority of the elite from other races. So they don't have to live with the consequences of importing the entire third world and the demographic decline of white people. They don't care because they will not have to personally deal with any of the potential negative, while it helps their businesses. They don't live in our communities so it just doesn't matter to them. They don't see themselves as white, European or whatever nationality they are from. They see themselves as an elite community separate from everyone else.

It's only when you get to the lower levels of wealth and government that they begin to employ people with an anti-white ideological agenda because nationalists put things like ethnicity over economics and they need to combat the rise of nationalism that importing millions of foreigners triggers.

Where there is crossover, its found in the Jewish segment of our elites who have quite a grudge against white people.

So basically I would say that white genocide is largely the consequence of converging interests which are primarily but not exclusively economic. It's not the goal for most of them, but a cost they're willing to place on the average European person or person of European descent

While I am pretty racist, I don't think antagonizing non whites is really the way to address this. We need a fundamental shift in our economics to disempower the capitalist elite and this issue will work itself out.

I am a non-marxian socialist and a nationalist for that reason. I don't think you can have nationalism without a socialist element.

 

[Hypercop]

Why is there even a discussion about "white genocide's motives" when this shit already happened in Rome 2000 years ago? You had every ethnicity that lived along the Mediterranean filling up Roman cities while native Romans drowned in generational debt to prop up the ailing system. Say what you will about the whole, "OMG America is the modern Rome guyzzz!11!!1" analogy, but where it comes to demographics it's pretty fucking good. Just like ancient Rome, the prosperity of America has depended *very* heavily on the quality of its native stock, even if a lot of people don't want to admit that. And just so we're clear here, "native stock" is not an arbitrary designation, like it clearly does mean that a Yemeni or Somali who immigrated in 2005 is less entitled to America than the progeny of a Civil War veteran, because the latter has had real American values passed down to him through the generations, whereas the former probably doesn't even really know or care what that means and sees America as a cheap whore to sell out for money.

You can't build a nation up to greatness when the movers and shakers don't have values, when they behave like turd worlders who are constantly looking to cash out at every opportunity. Is that a new business??? Ooh boy, time to extort it! Time to loot it if they don't pay us! Maybe we'll even burn it to the ground!! When you let third worlders into America, you're importing that mindset too btw.

 

[A Pale Shadow]

I come from the same social milieu Fleshy does. Literally no one "chuds out" from it.

Your avant-garde journey starts with a mild chud-out—you become a light-right "noticer" or connoisseur of old ethnic Americana or fucking electronic textbooks or whatever—and you gradually shrink your understanding of the world until you die an old-lady shitlib.

See, e.g., Steve Albini, who ended his life unwilling to even speak the name of his own band.

Fleshy will someday sue Kiwi Farms. We'll be in the evidence.
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Without asking you to power level, could you describe in broad terms how your life went differently? I can safely assume since you're posting here that you're moderate left at the very least.

 

[Angry Shoes]

Took the words right out of my mouth. I don't give a shit about any of this, and Flesh is a cow for engaging in gay internet slapfights, all I care about is funny conspiracy videos that look like B-roll from The Matrix. I hate his opponents though, so I'm glad to see them taken down a peg. Rate me optimistic, but maybe this will actually get Flesh to chudd out.

My assumption is he will remain economically left wing on principle but drift rightward socially.

 

[Nuclear Crow Accident]

I think there's probably value in having a left leaning voice covering the kinds of topics he covers. There's a certain kind of leftist that just isn't going to entertain any ideas floated by a "chud", but probably would care about these topics if they knew more about it. For those people, somebody like Flesh offers a good introduction without immediately offending their sensibilities with a bunch of right wing takes.

Of course, many of those people are likely the same ones who wrote him off for collaborating with Sam Hyde a while back, so who knows.

Either way, I think there is a place for the schizo-left. It used to be more prominent, but has largely disappeared. I saw a comment on one of his videos a while back that described it as the "System of a down left" and I think that's a pretty good point of comparison for what the left has lost. Flesh is channeling a little bit of that.

This recent incident proves that it's a more precarious position to be in than it used to be, though.

I'm not going to fanboy over this schizo of all people, it is clear he is not an example at all (even though it seems he got it pretty good on the IRL front, with all the fancy expensive shit he shows).
However, I do respect him in a weird way. It takes balls to be candid and say "yeah, this shit got me majorly stressed out" nowadays, when content creators are supposed to play up this unassailable tough guy persona, or start being those fucking lolcows who post a tear-filled apology video every other week.
Maybe I'm just being naive, but I truly think he's being sincere in his most recent video. He seems like the kind of guy who'd post a video explaining he fucked up and the reasons he did it, if it came to that.

 

[Slash In Brentwood]

Maybe I'm just being naive, but I truly think he's being sincere in his most recent video. He seems like the kind of guy who'd post a video explaining he fucked up and the reasons he did it, if it came to that.

I don’t see why he wouldn’t be sincere in the latest video. It’s entirely just him explaining the whole situation since that dysgenic freak Noah has been lying through his teeth and playing the “I’m not crazy you’re crazy bro” card to come off all nonchalant and unbothered by flesh’s actions while also trying to act like a victim in all this and act like he’s off his rocker on benzos. It’s a good deconstruction of the whole situation and considering I witnessed 90% of this shit take place live on twitter I can agree that he’s not really bullshitting. And it is refreshing to see him saying that he’s stressed out and pissed off by all this, not in a “boo boo my life is horrible” way, but a very matter of fact “if people threatened your family’s lives and livelihoods because you didn’t agree with their retarded opinions wholesale you would be pissed too” way, as opposed to trying to just play it all off. It’s a very human response and not a clinical, sterile response like we get from so many other content creators who end up in shit like this.
I also finally caved and watched westsidetyler’s video on flesh and almost the entire video is just this.