[Found] Crossing the Rubicon

[TheClappening]

Vic was undone by a literal strip mall lawyer being paid a basic pay rate. Simply because that guy was the one guy in the room not grandstanding. I know everyone here is saying to hire Randazza, or Barnes or some other high profile lawyer.

Vic was undone by the towering incompetence of his own lawyer not filing critical evidence on time. While, sure, the aforementioned strip mall lawyer was awake to catch the boo-boo, if there was no boo-boo to be had there would have been nothing to catch.

So the real lesson is to not hire a shitty lawyer.

 

[Betonhaus]

That kind of person is the LAST kind of person you want. What you want is the seasoned litigator. The pillar of the community. The man everyone loves to trade jokes with at the country club. The man with the impeccable record. The man looking for that ONE CASE that will cement his legacy. That could get him in front of the supreme court.

You don't want the person who wants those kinds of slings of arrows. You want the person those slings and arrows cannot touch.

I'd imagine that you would want a lawyer that is confident he doesn't have skeletons in the closet that a keyboard berserker could find. But I would think that the defendant (whoever that may be) would be smart enough to not slander a seasoned lawyer.

You'd want a lawyer that's familiar enough with social media that they understand the technical details of the accusations and can explain them to the jury in an easy to understand way. Generally you don't need grandstanding because the cold hard facts are on your side, but you need to be able to explain them and stress their significance.

It would be easy to turn this into a political trannies vs transphobes public fight, but that would only serve to draw in big names to the fight to swing their clout.

 

[mindlessobserver]

You'd want a lawyer that's familiar enough with social media that they understand the technical details of the accusations and can explain them to the jury in an easy to understand way. Generally you don't need grandstanding because the cold hard facts are on your side, but you need to be able to explain them and stress their significance.

if it gets that far. You can always bring the grandstander in if it gets to trial and you need to convince a jury. This sort of case however will almost certainly be decided on the merits and has serious potential of ending up before the US Supreme Court because its a federal question out the gate that implicates the limits of free speech, corporate rights, corporate speech, and contract law. Not an unholy trinity. An unholy Quadriwtf Cthulhu. The last thing it needs is a grandstander, and there is no way in hell it will ever end up before a jury.

There needs to be clear eyed realism here. This case may go all the way. Its going to cost at least a million dollars (an actual million, not the doctor evil lol 1 million), and a precedent could very well be decided at the highest levels.

There is absolutely no room for fuck ups here, and no room for hiring a drama lawyer like Barnes or Randazza.

 

[A Man on Fire]

Don't be stupid. He's not even in California.

But I’m a KW user and I am. I have standing.

 

[William Tyndale]

It will be interesting to see if the ddos attacks stop after this announcement of lawfare.

 

[Focken Kiwi]

It will be interesting to see if the ddos attacks stop after this announcement of lawfare.

I'm a little more interested to see if Thwomp starts trying to delete evidence or begins publicly crying for financial aid.

 

[Meat Target]

There is absolutely no room for fuck ups here, and no room for hiring a drama lawyer like Barnes or Randazza.

My only exposure to Robert Barnes was during the Kyle Trial. His commentary was always him being an egotistical blowhard and sour grapes about getting removed from the defense team.

I'm a little more interested to see if Thwomp starts trying to delete evidence or begins publicly crying for financial aid.

What if he hires Alex Caraballo for counsel?

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

the First Amendment or the tech industry.

It's not a First Amendment issue—has nothing to do with the First Amendment. And really the tech industry part doesn't matter, since interference with a contract with a tech firm isn't really that different from interference with a contract with any other type of company. It's still just a contract and a claim in tort.

I'm a little more interested to see if Thwomp starts trying to delete evidence

This is actually something I would personally be concerned with. Destroying or hiding evidence in light of discovery is highly sanctionable, but those safeguards generally kick in when the party is on notice that they will be subject to civil litigation.

This is a person every company and authority figure tiptoes around. He may honestly think he can get away with deleting things in light of discovery because it's not like he really suffers consequences for any of his other outrageous conduct. I mean, just look at him thinking he's a woman despite the face he stares into every morning. This isn't a person with a grasp on reality.

 

[joebobmurphy]

Can't help with the lawyers, but I pledge at least $200. Fuck you, Trannies.

 

[make_it_so]

FIRE is very free speech (they even defended a kid who had a confederate flag up in his dorm), they may know the right person too: https://www.thefire.org/submit-a-case

Pretty sure that FIRE is more focused on individuals in the education sector (students, teachers, campus orgs., etc).

 

[Betonhaus]

One thing to point out is that the defendant is likely to use the contents of this website as evidence, so be prepared for that. But the defendant is likely to try to pull things out of context which should be easier to counter.

You might be well served to prepare an offline backup for this site, but the policy of not allowing things to be deleted could make the site itself available as a public copy of submitted evidence.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Pretty sure that FIRE is more focused on individuals in the education sector (students, teachers, campus orgs., etc).

They started out that way, but they've been branching out quite a bit lately.

 

[William Tyndale]

Y

It's not a First Amendment issue—has nothing to do with the First Amendment. And really the tech industry part doesn't matter, since interference with a contract with a tech firm isn't really that different from interference with a contract with any other type of company. It's still just a contract and a claim in tort.


This is actually something I would personally be concerned with. Destroying or hiding evidence in light of discovery is highly sanctionable, but those safeguards generally kick in when the party is on notice that they will be subject to civil litigation.

This is a person every company and authority figure tiptoes around. He may honestly think he can get away with deleting things in light of discovery because it's not like he really suffers consequences for any of his other outrageous conduct. I mean, just look at him thinking he's a woman despite the face he stares into every morning. This isn't a person with a grasp on reality.

You can’t delete subpoenas for testimony and the wives of those tech firm execs aren’t going to cover for Ching Chong Roblox.

 

[Meat Target]

One thing to point out is that the defendant is likely to use the contents of this website as evidence, so be prepared for that. But the defendant is likely to try to pull things out of context which should be easier to counter.

You might be well served to prepare an offline backup for this site, but the policy of not allowing things to be deleted could make the site itself available as a public copy of submitted evidence.

What have we to hide, though? The truth is our armor.

And don't forget that Dong-Gone started it. He didn't have a thread until he glommed onto the Keffalcaust.

 

[Betonhaus]

What have we to hide, though? The truth is our armor.

And don't forget that Dong-Gone started it. He didn't have a thread until he glommed onto the Keffalcaust.

We got the truth, but a lie can run across the world while the truth is still getting its pants back on. Do you honestly believe that there isn't a single way the defendant can pick and choose parts of this site to make us look evil and him look like a victim? Just being prepared for that eventuality is important.

 

[Pee Cola]

We got the truth, but a lie can run across the world while the truth is still getting its pants back on. Do you honestly believe that there isn't a single way the defendant can pick and choose parts of this site to make us look evil and him look like a victim? Just being prepared for that eventuality is important.

Of course the Defense is going to cherry-pick parts of the Farms that suit their narrative, and will most likely submit these parts out of context. That's why it's extremely important that Null's counsel fully understands the case, which is going to be something of a challenge given how many moving parts there are.

The last thing Null needs is for his counsel to flounder should LFJ's counsel try tripping them up on some kind of arcane technical point that's not clearly expressed. Null has made it clear that experience in the tech industry is a desirable characteristic for his legal counsel to have.

 

[Betonhaus]

Of course the Defense is going to cherry-pick parts of the Farms that suit their narrative, and will most likely submit these parts out of context. That's why it's extremely important that Null's counsel fully understands the case, which is going to be something of a challenge given how many moving parts there are.

The last thing Null needs is for his counsel to flounder should LFJ's counsel try tripping them up on some kind of arcane technical point that's not clearly expressed. Null has made it clear that experience in the tech industry is a desirable characteristic for his legal counsel to have.

I suppose it does help that null has a blanket policy of forbidding any trolling or attacks off the forum, so for people to see the nastier stuff said about them they have to deliberately come here to this site to read them.

I imagine the defendant is keeping an eye on things here, even reading this thread and learning of people talking about his bald spot growing.

 

[seri0us]

All I know is try to make sure your lawyer has a Jewish last name

Heil Heilberg!

 

[Depressed_Oni]

Godspeed Null, I hope you Rake this slack jawed, Minecraft Steve shaped head ass, knuckle dragging, “consent accident” having troglodyte over the coals so fucking bad that they live another thousand years to see how all their work attributed to nothing.

The SNEED moon rises

 

[dustbuster]

Harmeet K Dhillon of dhillon law group has had ears to ground regarding tech censorship.
She operates a general right-leaning lawfare operation.
Goes by the twitter handle "pnjaban"

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