EU France resists US challenge to its values, sets up "anti-woke think tank" - The government warns of a new cultural totalitarianism creeping in from the "Anglosphere".

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Six months ago, if asked what they understood by "woke", most French people would have assumed it had something to do with Chinese cooking. And yet today in Paris, the notion of "le wokisme" is suddenly all the rage.

The government warns of a new cultural totalitarianism creeping in from the "Anglosphere". The education minister has set up a Laboratory of the Republic, dubbed an "anti-woke think tank", to co-ordinate the fightback.

And everywhere the precursors of what might be to come are being reported in the media: a new gender-neutral pronoun, a threatened statue of a dead statesman or a meeting on campus only for black students.

For the French, these signifiers of what critics in the UK and US have termed "woke" are all very new and unfamiliar.

Resistance to 'Anglosphere'​

For good or bad, France has so far resisted what is seen here as a left-wing cultural movement dedicated to the promotion of minorities that originated in American universities and now exerts considerable influence in the public sphere in the English-speaking world.

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Partly, that is, because of an in-built French resistance to any intellectual invader from the "Anglosphere".

But more importantly, it is because France has its own post-revolutionary culture rooted in the defence of human rights.

"Don't preach to us about protecting racial and sexual minorities" is the instinctive French response. "We do it in our sleep."

And yet, as with so many other cultural forces that arrive from the US and the UK - think pop music or lunchtime sandwiches al desko - what was originally decried in France often ends up becoming the norm.

English graffiti on campus​

"Will France end up going woke? The jury is still out," says Justin EH Smith, an American philosophy professor at Paris University.

"Personally I find it liberating to teach here. I don't have to mind my every word, like I did with American students. Here, there is still a presumption that universities are a place to learn, and the staff is not there to cushion the subject matter."

But Prof Smith says signs of "wokeism" are nonetheless appearing on campus.

He cites seeing for the first time graffiti in English targeting "terfs" - or trans-exclusionary radical feminists. The use of English was significant, he says, because it "trickles in via elite bicultural, bilinguistic nodes" such as can be found at the university.

However, the new American ideas face a big difficulty in France, he believes, "because one of the cornerstones of French Republicanism is a principle that has become anathema in the context of US-style wokeism - and that is colour-blindness".

France's answer to protecting minorities is "universalism" - the notion that everyone is the same and should be treated the same.

But so-called "woke" thinkers have a different set of values. They say race, colour, gender do matter, because people have different lived experiences depending on those factors, and so public policies need to differentiate between different groups - which is anathema to the French.

'Alive to injustice'​

Some campaigners on race, gender and sexuality here say France's attachment to "universalism" is hypocrisy, and an excuse for refusing to change.

"The people who say France must protect itself against wokeism are the people who want everything to stay the same. Because they are the ones who benefit from the status quo," says anti-racism activist Rokhaya Diallo.

For campaigners like Ms Diallo, woke is a new adjective that they are happy to apply to themselves if it has the sense of being "alive to injustice". But they believe the French establishment has also been all too happy to fixate on the term as an easy way of denigrating its exponents.

"France is decades behind the US on issues like gay rights," says Alice Coffin, who set up an Association of Lesbian Journalists in Paris. "When I went to live in the US [under a Fulbright scholarship], it was such a relief not having to explain myself every time I went for an interview.

"People understood that I was a journalist and a lesbian. Here in France, they just don't get it. And now they accuse me of coming back from the US with these dangerous new ideas."

Existential threat​

That is indeed precisely what the anti-woke movement in France believes: that via universities, pressure groups and social media, the US is exporting a cultural virus into France that poses an existential threat to French society.

For the writer Brice Couturier, a member of the Laboratory for the Republic think tank, "wokeism puts people into tribes in order to control them. It says you belong in my tribe, and the leaders of my tribe will tell you how to behave. This is foreign to French mentality".

"France has fought many civil wars in the past, and I fear we could come close to civil war again if this goes too far. Just as [former US President] Trump was a reaction to wokeism in the US, here we have crazies like [far-right presidential candidate] Eric Zemmour. People are taking sides."

Another anti-woke campaigner, Quebec-born commentator Mathieu Bock-Cote, believes such ideas run counter to many of the formative elements of French identity.

"We are in a country where the freedom to talk about anything and everything is taken for granted. When you have minorities who say such and such a subject is off-limits, people instinctively say that's censorship, and we can't accept it," he says.

For him, France has the chance to be a beacon of inspiration against such ideas: "In the US, opposition to wokeism was monopolised by the conservatives under Trump. To say the least, that is not an attractive example," he says.

France is different, he argues: "Here opposition comes from across the political spectrum, and there are cultural antibodies to the virus of wokeism. France can lead the fight."


 
More alarmed by the rise in simping for France, despite being a country that spawned Jewish progressivism and invented ideological warfare.
Can't blame the gun maker for how it's used.

However this is nothing new; France has always been like this, ever since the loss of Algeria. The political fallout from that is still being felt and the factions and people that created are essentially fascistic in nature. France has been at a low level state of civil conflict in the form of gangs openly shooting each other, for the last decade or so along racial lines. Polls for the last 15 years have shown they increasingly racially aware, with around 80% of french polled saying that they consider themselves a racial group that should be the majority; and should defend itself.

All muttmemes aside, France has a very old, nearly Prussian way of thinking, it has strong militaristic traditions, a powerfully pervasive culture and elites that really don't like those who are non-french native.

The only problem is the kike right and the penn right are splitting the vote. But long term? France will probably be fine; the non french in France though? That's gonna suck for them.
 
Can't blame the gun maker for how it's used.

However this is nothing new; France has always been like this, ever since the loss of Algeria. The political fallout from that is still being felt and the factions and people that created are essentially fascistic in nature. France has been at a low level state of civil conflict in the form of gangs openly shooting each other, for the last decade or so along racial lines. Polls for the last 15 years have shown they increasingly racially aware, with around 80% of french polled saying that they consider themselves a racial group that should be the majority; and should defend itself.

All muttmemes aside, France has a very old, nearly Prussian way of thinking, it has strong militaristic traditions, a powerfully pervasive culture and elites that really don't like those who are non-french native.

The only problem is the kike right and the penn right are splitting the vote. But long term? France will probably be fine; the non french in France though? That's gonna suck for them.

Good. Any country where the visitors cannot fucking behave by the standards of the host civilization needs to make it suck for the non-compliant.
 
American culture has turned into a blight on the world and it's especially bad that the next generation, which is primarily online, sees its pozzed ass as some anti-establishment force, rather than a bunch of insane self centered groups destroying everything around them
I promote hatred of the US. The problems won't get better until the US stops having power. Vote for your local politicians who refuse to do business with the US. It will accelerate the collapse of this dead gay empire.
 
I'm with the French on this one, ho ho ho ho!

But for real, I've always felt a weird level of kinship with France, I'll have to do some double checking on this one, but I think I may be partly ethnically French, but it's really cool to see a lot of the French rejecting Woke ideology.
France's slogan is liberté, égalité, fraternité circa the revolution. The fraternité part, though probably had a different meaning a couple centuries ago, sure has taken a new meaning now in the context of these culture wars. Guess this will be a new test of what it means to be French.
 
the EU unironically has like 20+ official languages lel
english was the obvious choice for their de facto lingua franca because of its global proliferation, and still is. the brits are gone so some butthurt euros (particularly the french) want it replaced, but it's not gonna happen i think, because of various issues.

the next biggest language in europe after english would be german, both in numbers of native speakers and second language speakers, but germany is too cucked and self hating to push for it, so that won't happen.
after that, it's french, and the french are pushing for that, but other countries aren't very happy with it because it's not widely spoken as a second language among other euros.
and any other language after that (spanish, italian, polish, various slavic, baltic and scandinavian languages) has the same problems as french (low number of speakers) so no serious prospects there either.

basically they're locked into speaking english even though the anglos left. cucked in absentia, with no way out. lmao.
The Eternal Anglo truly is eternal.
Any language native to the territories that make up the European Union. In actual practice French and German, which most EU citizens speak, can comprehend in their dialect or have some grasp of. There has been a move towards French as the single primary language of union affairs however, which is in part due to where the capital is and draws employees from. If everyone in the office speaks French, why are they going to role play working in something else?

They couldn't outright ban English when the British were one of the biggest sugar daddies in the Union, but now they're out there's no reason to accept English being spoken over the others when the others feel it's eroding their own culture.
They can try, but the one big issue is that outside the EU English is the de facto international language thanks to first the UK and then now the USA. Diplomacy all too often follows business... and the USA does business.
So Macron wants to be based but is too tainted to be able to do it, this might be interesting to watch
Everybody in France wants to be the next Napoleon. Trouble is, aside from Napoleon I who managed to be lightning in a bottle (and still wound up doing terribly in the end, dying in exile as a British prisoner on a shithole island in the middle of nowhere), they've all had shitty track records. Napoleon II died at the ripe age of 21 thanks to disease, and Napoleon III got suckered into a war with Prussia on Bismarck's terms that lasted all of oh... 6 months and ended with his abdication, the Third Republic being formed, the Parisian commies starting shit (again), the Prussian Army doing a victory march in Paris and the starving Parisians fed with Prussian army rations. As far as I'm concerned the name and title are fucking cursed and only a Frenchman could be arrogant enough to think they could make the name "Napoleon" worth anything again. So no, its not that he thinks himself a great conqueror or anything else... he's just French and everything after Napoleon I has been downhill for them, so its nothing more than ego-driven nostalgia.
 
Lol France thinking it can stem the tide of wokeism by relying on a French cultural identity and pointing to past kow-towing to minority demands is so out of touch it's flabbergasting. The huge pool of descendants of former colonial areas, new immigrants and refugees, and a large portion of French queers and leftists are going to embrace wokeism for the same reason they do in the US and elsewhere; it brings them power, it makes them feel good and morally superior, and they never really gave that much of a fuck about "French identity". The woke do no give one single shit about your past efforts to "protect minorities" just as they don't care about America's efforts because according to them all of those efforts did nothing and were secretly racist/facist/whatever anyways. The French severely misunderstand and underestimate an enemy that hates them and their culture as much as it hates anyone else, and it stems from the arrogant and flat out wrong cultural meme that "France is not bad and racist like America and therefor we won't have American's problems".
 
Putting Parisian politics aside for a moment, as Paris is its own insular region, you don't need to travel too far in France to understand that the culture revolves around apathy and a generalist idea of equality.

Many topics brought up in woke circles are centered into an Americanized perspective that just can't be properly replicated in French culture. French people are detached from political discussion with the exception of the matter of cultural integration.

To give an example, the government may offer access to language/culture classes to newly arrived immigrants with the expectation of integrating said immigrants in the French culture. They are given tools to find job opportunities, housing and education for this exact reason.

The idea is that by providing people with tools and similar opportunities as locals they will be able to become productive members of society. That's the French idea of equality.

Now, wokeism would assert that immigrants shouldn't be seem as being valuable only if they can integrate into the local culture. The woke expectation is for society to accommodate immigrants rather than expect immigrants to change until they can integrate with society.

French thinkers believed in deconstructing social standards as a thought exercise but were still dead set in seeing French culture as the measurement of progress. Their progressivism arrived at equality rather than equity, integration rather than miscegenation, secularism rather than pseudo-ecumenicalism in politics.

You can apply this observation to any other woke point be it feminism, gender ideology, queer theory and so on. French society expects a degree of integration and both the media and academics are willing to indulge in criticism of any ideology or moral standard as thought exercises.

It shouldn't come off as a surprise if more "conservative" groups become prominent in French politics due to a social interest in affirming cultural integration in the nation.

Paris might be more vulnerable to woke influence but the rest of France is fairly unsympathetic towards those ideologies.
 
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