EU France resists US challenge to its values, sets up "anti-woke think tank" - The government warns of a new cultural totalitarianism creeping in from the "Anglosphere".

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Six months ago, if asked what they understood by "woke", most French people would have assumed it had something to do with Chinese cooking. And yet today in Paris, the notion of "le wokisme" is suddenly all the rage.

The government warns of a new cultural totalitarianism creeping in from the "Anglosphere". The education minister has set up a Laboratory of the Republic, dubbed an "anti-woke think tank", to co-ordinate the fightback.

And everywhere the precursors of what might be to come are being reported in the media: a new gender-neutral pronoun, a threatened statue of a dead statesman or a meeting on campus only for black students.

For the French, these signifiers of what critics in the UK and US have termed "woke" are all very new and unfamiliar.

Resistance to 'Anglosphere'​

For good or bad, France has so far resisted what is seen here as a left-wing cultural movement dedicated to the promotion of minorities that originated in American universities and now exerts considerable influence in the public sphere in the English-speaking world.

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Partly, that is, because of an in-built French resistance to any intellectual invader from the "Anglosphere".

But more importantly, it is because France has its own post-revolutionary culture rooted in the defence of human rights.

"Don't preach to us about protecting racial and sexual minorities" is the instinctive French response. "We do it in our sleep."

And yet, as with so many other cultural forces that arrive from the US and the UK - think pop music or lunchtime sandwiches al desko - what was originally decried in France often ends up becoming the norm.

English graffiti on campus​

"Will France end up going woke? The jury is still out," says Justin EH Smith, an American philosophy professor at Paris University.

"Personally I find it liberating to teach here. I don't have to mind my every word, like I did with American students. Here, there is still a presumption that universities are a place to learn, and the staff is not there to cushion the subject matter."

But Prof Smith says signs of "wokeism" are nonetheless appearing on campus.

He cites seeing for the first time graffiti in English targeting "terfs" - or trans-exclusionary radical feminists. The use of English was significant, he says, because it "trickles in via elite bicultural, bilinguistic nodes" such as can be found at the university.

However, the new American ideas face a big difficulty in France, he believes, "because one of the cornerstones of French Republicanism is a principle that has become anathema in the context of US-style wokeism - and that is colour-blindness".

France's answer to protecting minorities is "universalism" - the notion that everyone is the same and should be treated the same.

But so-called "woke" thinkers have a different set of values. They say race, colour, gender do matter, because people have different lived experiences depending on those factors, and so public policies need to differentiate between different groups - which is anathema to the French.

'Alive to injustice'​

Some campaigners on race, gender and sexuality here say France's attachment to "universalism" is hypocrisy, and an excuse for refusing to change.

"The people who say France must protect itself against wokeism are the people who want everything to stay the same. Because they are the ones who benefit from the status quo," says anti-racism activist Rokhaya Diallo.

For campaigners like Ms Diallo, woke is a new adjective that they are happy to apply to themselves if it has the sense of being "alive to injustice". But they believe the French establishment has also been all too happy to fixate on the term as an easy way of denigrating its exponents.

"France is decades behind the US on issues like gay rights," says Alice Coffin, who set up an Association of Lesbian Journalists in Paris. "When I went to live in the US [under a Fulbright scholarship], it was such a relief not having to explain myself every time I went for an interview.

"People understood that I was a journalist and a lesbian. Here in France, they just don't get it. And now they accuse me of coming back from the US with these dangerous new ideas."

Existential threat​

That is indeed precisely what the anti-woke movement in France believes: that via universities, pressure groups and social media, the US is exporting a cultural virus into France that poses an existential threat to French society.

For the writer Brice Couturier, a member of the Laboratory for the Republic think tank, "wokeism puts people into tribes in order to control them. It says you belong in my tribe, and the leaders of my tribe will tell you how to behave. This is foreign to French mentality".

"France has fought many civil wars in the past, and I fear we could come close to civil war again if this goes too far. Just as [former US President] Trump was a reaction to wokeism in the US, here we have crazies like [far-right presidential candidate] Eric Zemmour. People are taking sides."

Another anti-woke campaigner, Quebec-born commentator Mathieu Bock-Cote, believes such ideas run counter to many of the formative elements of French identity.

"We are in a country where the freedom to talk about anything and everything is taken for granted. When you have minorities who say such and such a subject is off-limits, people instinctively say that's censorship, and we can't accept it," he says.

For him, France has the chance to be a beacon of inspiration against such ideas: "In the US, opposition to wokeism was monopolised by the conservatives under Trump. To say the least, that is not an attractive example," he says.

France is different, he argues: "Here opposition comes from across the political spectrum, and there are cultural antibodies to the virus of wokeism. France can lead the fight."


 
France only cares about the Anglosphere when they're conquered by Germans again.
This, daily reminder the French were responsible for many absurd actions that led to two world wars and if it weren't for Stalin stepping his game up in 1946/7 the French were set for a third escallation with how they behaved in post-WWII Germany.
 
Everybody in France wants to be the next Napoleon. Trouble is, aside from Napoleon I who managed to be lightning in a bottle (and still wound up doing terribly in the end, dying in exile as a British prisoner on a shithole island in the middle of nowhere), they've all had shitty track records.
You forgot to add that Napoleon also apparently redesigned chunks of Paris based off a random English seaside town he liked. Something that even if it is complete bollocks is funny enough to keep claiming because it's the equivalent of a giant English shit in the middle of the French capital.

Based France? Incroyable!
The French can get very revolutionary when they feel like it. And unlike most Western countries they have done it in the recent past too.
 
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This, daily reminder the French were responsible for many absurd actions that led to two world wars and if it weren't for Stalin stepping his game up in 1946/7 the French were set for a third escallation with how they behaved in post-WWII Germany.
Central Europe has always been just as much a tinder box as Eastern Europe. We just do it on a bigger scale than the slavs.
 
They can try, but the one big issue is that outside the EU English is the de facto international language thanks to first the UK and then now the USA. Diplomacy all too often follows business... and the USA does business.

I don't disagree with you, however this is anathema to the way the EU operates.

The EU isn't trying to be a world trading powerhouse first and foremost, although it's nice if it happens to become this on the way. The EU wants first and foremost to be entirely self sufficient on as many fronts as possible, and with sole exception to military matters because it knows Russia will steamroller it the EU does NOT want to be inviting in outside partners to achive this end.

It may be the de facto international language, but the EU has yet to even become a confirmed federal state in itself. At this stage, it wants a unique identity and speaking a language not spoken by the world at large is a good way to do this. Almost all of its trade deals concern its own members, imposing large penalties and tarrifs for trading outside the EU member and approved parties bubble.

Buisness will follow, but at this point it really doesn't seem to care about international opinion. If it did it wouldn't treat Africa like shit and let Xi run riot over the third world. All the EU cares about is creating an insular stable bubble with a shared identity at this point, and making a language not universally spoken elsewhere the lingua franca is a good way of achiving this.

German probably would be the easier choice as previously mentioned. However, Brussels is in a French speaking area and France unlike Germany doesn't have a reputation for genocide.

Lol France thinking it can stem the tide of wokeism by relying on a French cultural identity and pointing to past kow-towing to minority demands is so out of touch it's flabbergasting. The huge pool of descendants of former colonial areas, new immigrants and refugees, and a large portion of French queers and leftists are going to embrace wokeism for the same reason they do in the US and elsewhere; it brings them power, it makes them feel good and morally superior, and they never really gave that much of a fuck about "French identity". The woke do no give one single shit about your past efforts to "protect minorities" just as they don't care about America's efforts because according to them all of those efforts did nothing and were secretly racist/facist/whatever anyways. The French severely misunderstand and underestimate an enemy that hates them and their culture as much as it hates anyone else, and it stems from the arrogant and flat out wrong cultural meme that "France is not bad and racist like America and therefor we won't have American's problems".

You're missing one core important factor.

In French eyes, Anglos are incapable of creating anything of worth. English is evil, and to adopt Anglo practices is the same as becoming a neopagan.

It does not make them morally superior, it makes them a freak. Even the communists in France have not adopted this because it's tainted by coming from the lips of roast beef.
 
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I don't disagree with you, however this is anathema to the way the EU operates.

The EU isn't trying to be a world trading powerhouse first and foremost, although it's nice if it happens to become this on the way. The EU wants first and foremost to be entirely self sufficient on as many fronts as possible, and with sole exception to military matters because it knows Russia will steamroller it the EU does NOT want to be inviting in outside partners to achive this end.

It may be the de facto international language, but the EU has yet to even become a confirmed federal state in itself. At this stage, it wants a unique identity and speaking a language not spoken by the world at large is a good way to do this. Almost all of its trade deals concern its own members, imposing large penalties and tarrifs for trading outside the EU member and approved parties bubble.

Buisness will follow, but at this point it really doesn't seem to care about international opinion. If it did it wouldn't treat Africa like shit and let Xi run riot over the third world. All the EU cares about is creating an insular stable bubble with a shared identity at this point, and making a language not universally spoken elsewhere the lingua franca is a good way of achiving this.

German probably would be the easier choice as previously mentioned. However, Brussels is in a French speaking area and France unlike Germany doesn't have a reputation for genoicide.
Those are all valid points, however exports are a major part of the EU's economy thanks to Germany (industry) and France (agriculture), and them doubling-down on protectionism to boost those sectors will wind up with yet more on the market. Any German businessmen who travel will need to speak English, and any French businessmen will need to speak English (as much as it will cause their asses to get chapped). The ever-pragmatic Germans aren't going to be too keen on learning French when English is perfectly good for the situation (well, a bit of a stretch, but the Germans are certainly ones to speak when it comes to languages being a mess!) and already widely spoken, even in Europe. There's also going to be resistance from the pro-US, pro-UK East when it comes to either of those languages, especially German, and they're going to be shameless about slapping the Francophones with accusations of cultural imperialism (which it will be).

So, TL;DR, so long as Europe is a bunch of random countries that all hate each other and about as much centralized authority as the Articles of Confederation, there's no chance of a distinct European identity or language forming, and so long as the East/West divide persists, I see it as unlikely. Should the East leave, voluntarily or not, then I see a largely Francophone identity forming. But not until then.
 
They love playing this game because it distracts from things like

  1. their massive nuclear stockpile that DeGaulle repeatedly threatened to use on a major Western ally and that they STILL haven't given up
  2. their relentless animal-cruelty violations
  3. how wretchedly little they ever really did to keep their former colonies stable after they fucked off back to their cozy homeland leaving the ex-subjects holding the bag ever since...easier just to condemn the USA for everything somehow [In all fairness Br*tain and Spain are just as bad with this shit]
  4. several high-profile kiddie pests whom they STILL refuse to punish
  5. somebody else beat me to it but...Derrida was the original wokefag Patient Zero who took it to the Anglo countries
 
I'm incredulous at the idea that Les Crapauds are saying someone else's cultural trends are reprehensible and they're right.
 
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they are butthurt because French culture is only associated with Pedoshit.

They are also butthurt that the EU anthem is in german.

They wanna be no2 in europe again, but they never had it in them to become it on merit.
 
France to the US, 1965: here have this Foucault
US: K

US to France, 2020+: here have this Foucault back
France: lol neaux
The audacity of these frogs (though the Germans share some blame, they're not on their high horse) to bitch about a philosophy they helped birth and shat out coming back home. How long until they remember Foucalt and pals railing against age of consent and allow rich Chinks and Arabs to come poop on their kids?
 
This will last til Germany elects a troon as Prime Minister. Then Germany will have to defend itself from Frances toxic cultural beliefs.

Also looking forward to the idolization of Louis the XIV again.
 
Wokeness is American leftim ideological colonialism and it's time people acknowledge this.

Many people who gets caught up in this bs does it because they assume that the ideas are good only because they come from USA and they are "better" than us. Ironically, many are the same who speak against imperialism.

The whole Latinx issue has put it under a more obvious light, though, that's all Americans trying to push their own views into others.

we aint pushing shit... we didnt tell britian to take the knee after that gorilla got kneeled on thats for sure!
 
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