Fuck Logitech - The erstwhile kings of peripherals now only sell garbage and I'm sad

[Thiletonomics]

If you need an epic gamer RGB mouse that doesn’t suck I use a Corsair Harpoon and have never had any problems with it.

So yes, fuck Logitech, it's Chinesium crap. I switched out everything for Steelseries, which had utterly broken drivers and shit mouse quality, then switched again to Corsair, and finally, I've got peripherals that are still working after 90 days.

Corsair's products have also dropped in quality in recent times too, since they decided to go Public for some reason, and around that time is where the cost-cutting started to happen with their products. They also recently acquired Fanatec, a company that makes Direct Drive racing wheels for racing games, after Fanatec's parent company became insolvent, so don't expect the cost-cutting to end anytime soon.

 

[Flaming Dumpster]

THIS FUCKING CABLE

Did this guy cut off the braid or is it really not braided anymore? I have two G502 HERO mice from 2019 and they both have a thin braided cable which I prefer to the older design as it didn't seem as inflexible over time. One of those mice has now developed double click issues and lets go randomly when held down, the usual "fixes" (slapping the mouse to get dust out of the switch) only provide temporary reprieve.

Of course my original "Proteus" G502 and G500 never developed these issues. The braid wore out on the G500 over time but the cable inside is fine.

Though my introduction to the new era Logitech reliability woes was the G602 whose scroll wheel click would fail within a year no matter how many times it was swapped. Talked to other people and this is an incredibly common complaint which is a huge bummer as that was a great mouse.

Nowadays I don't buy Logitech, it's terrible quality, too expensive and the company treats its customers with contempt. I tried a Razer Deathadder V2 which was decent but a little cheap feeling and the software was awful. Afterwards I got a Pwnage Stormbreaker which is a weird magnesium skelly mouse and it's alright but I found the right click incredibly mushy and the mouse wheel would glitch out if you scrolled too fast.

After that skelly mouse, I got a Keychron M3 which is more like the Razer Deathadder and that works alright for the price but again the mouse wheel was disappointing, just very cheap feeling. The Keychron M6 is a good Logitech MX replacement for people who are interested in that and don't want to pay the Logitech ransom for shit that turns to oil in your hands.

Did some more research on skelly mice and found the WLmouse Sword X. It's not perfect, the software is janky as hell and I have to have max'd out lift off distance or it doesn't track on my mousepad properly. It's an optical sensor and very picky about its surfaces. The Sword X has a really good left and right click, both feel very decisive and the mouse wheel hasn't given me any trouble.

 

[WULULULULU]

Corsair's products have also dropped in quality in recent times too, since they decided to go Public for some reason, and around that time is where the cost-cutting started to happen with their products. They also recently acquired Fanatec, a company that makes Direct Drive racing wheels for racing games, after Fanatec's parent company became insolvent, so don't expect the cost-cutting to end anytime soon.

If what Gamers Nexus said in the NZXT video is of any indication, NZXT is next in the "electronic company to be public" category. The same video also explains why Corsair turned public (hint: it is related to Francisco Partners and Eagletree Capital).

 

[Carpe Jugulum]

Did this guy cut off the braid or is it really not braided anymore?

It’s not braided. I replaced mine and it’s a bog standard cable.

I may have bust the microphone on my headset. I honestly don’t know what to replace it with. It’s not old but I knocked it off my desk.

 

[Sultan Bin Jewstar]

don’t know what to replace it with.

Get a cheap usb mic. I got a shitty Samson condenser mic and haven't been let down.
Paying for a new headset because the mic stopped working is .

 

[Carpe Jugulum]

Get a cheap usb mic. I got a shitty Samson condenser mic and haven't been let down.
Paying for a new headset because the mic stopped working is .

I have a standalone microphone but no arm and speak too quietly (can’t change this). It’s buy *something* or go without.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

I've been using MX Anywhere mice for 12 years. Never had a problem with them...

 

[skykiii]

It’s not braided. I replaced mine and it’s a bog standard cable.

I may have bust the microphone on my headset. I honestly don’t know what to replace it with. It’s not old but I knocked it off my desk.

I've been using a microphone from some company called Fifine, which I was sure was some chinkshit brand but surprisingly the thing held up. Only issue I ever had was a time it somehow got wet but once it dried out, it went back to working fine.

 

[Spruce Supremacist]

I'd like to remind you guys that these faggots had an idea of making a mouse with a paid subscription
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The backlash towards this was so bad that they had to come out and say that it was just an IDEA and they weren't actually making it

A true "forever" mouse is one that is well-built.
I've been using a Logitech M-S61 from very early 00s without a hiccup (apart from the ball needing a regular cleaning) for 20+ years which is really just a super bland ball mouse:

I only recently had to switch to a different mouse after getting a monitor with a higher-than-60Hz refresh rate, because it made me realize that my old ball mouse had a polling rate of about ~90Hz, meaning that at that point it updated it's position slower than the monitor, which is super noticeable. I got a Logitech G203 as a replacement, which works fine, albeit the micro switches are louder and a tad less pleasant to click. I don't really understand the appeal of side buttons and the DPI switch as those concepts are foreign to me, but other than that it's a perfectly fine daily driver.

 

[Seasoned News Reporter]

A true "forever" mouse is one that is well-built.
I've been using a Logitech M-S61 from very early 00s without a hiccup (apart from the ball needing a regular cleaning) for 20+ years which is really just a super bland ball mouse:
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I only recently had to switch to a different mouse after getting a monitor with a higher-than-60Hz refresh rate, because it made me realize that my old ball mouse had a polling rate of about ~90Hz, meaning that at that point it updated it's position slower than the monitor, which is super noticeable. I got a Logitech G203 as a replacement, which works fine, albeit the micro switches are louder and a tad less pleasant to click. I don't really understand the appeal of side buttons and the DPI switch as those concepts are foreign to me, but other than that it's a perfectly fine daily driver.
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To me having the two extra buttons is nice because it's not too much and you can rebind them for alot of other things. They are also usually the default keys of forward and backwards on a browser. So just a little extra utility that's usually not in the way and is nice to have.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Imagine actually buying a keyboard or mouse that costs more than 20$

 

[BelUwUga]

I've been using MX Anywhere mice for 12 years. Never had a problem with them...

I'm a big fan of the MX Master. Refurb it's even the same price and you get an extra button+horizontal scroll.

 

[Flabba Wabba Jabba]

I've been using MX Anywhere mice for 12 years. Never had a problem with them...

Try their gaming peripherals from the past 2-3 years. I recently replaced my G502 with a new one and was shocked at the build quality. Cheaper parts, more plastic (when the old one had metal clips and shit), the braided cable was gone, the mouse felt flimsy compared to the older 2016-2017 one, which could be placed in a batter's women shelter for the abuse it took but kept on going...

I believe it's Indians infusing themselves into everything and a hyper-profit growth mindset until the whole global economy fucking explodes in 10 years.

 

[Baraka Obama]

Out of the way fucking noblemen, peasant coming through
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this is my mouse and I have a 3090

Wheel Mouse Optical is unironically the GOAT

You do not and will never need the 17 extra mouse buttons that only get pressed accidentally.

 

[Day of the Cope]

Every single fucking Logitech mouse I've own ended up with the same fucking issue, after like 2-3 months of use, where the crappy switches would register a second input when I only clicked once. Every mouse from them had the same issue. Ended up going with the pulsar Xlite V3.

 

[Ombra]

i think your problem is that you have fallen for the meme of gaming mice. ive always used the cheapest mice possible and never had any problem playing games with them.

My experience has been a bit different. None of the mice sold at Walmart worked on my Optiplex 7010/Win 7 Pro. One sorta worked, it you don't mind the cursor moving around after I let go of the mouse. It took a used Microsoft mouse from Ebay to do the job....but it was fairly cheap.

 

[Ombra]

Logitech is the bane of peripherals

Their mouse was crap, but I quite like the Logitech Z323. Three years old and still kicking.

 

[Sooty Soot]

I use one of those generic Lenovo wireless mice with the removable cap on the top where you replace the battery. First one was basically the same model from a cheap chink company, lasted 2 years before getting double clicks, replaced it with some cheap obscure slightly bigger mouse from some Chink company, biggest piece of dogshit ever that didn't even last 6 months before getting double clicks. I'm on the same model now but it was sold by Lenovo, works well enough and it's decently priced.

 

[Slav Power]

Logitech's QA being so trash is a disappointment since they have great mouse designs. I use a G502 HERO and I love it. Sure, the rubber on the side deteriorated from use and it developed the infamous double click that never reappeared after I sent it for an RMA repair, but the shape, the extra buttons and the mouse wheel are fantastic for productivity. Just the right amount of extras to bind macros to, and tilt wheels are a rarity nowadays, especially ones you can toggle into free mode.

If I wanted to buy this mouse again, I wouldn't be able to. Mine is the older braided cable model, and ever since then Logitech swapped it for a shittier rubber one. I was contemplating getting the G502 X at some point as it has all the features that I'd care about, but is also much lighter, but then again, modern Logitech quality, hard to say how much it would last.

I did however get an M196 recently for my laptop since it was a fairly cheap Bluetooth only mouse with free shipping. Can't complain about it much, it's a mouse, it works, feels good and it doesn't hog a USB slot unnecessarily which is exactly what I wanted. Still, they have some great designs like the G502 X, the MX Master 3, or the MX Vertical/Lift that I'd consider buying due to the shape and functionality, but given the asking price for those and the complete disregard for build quality in the recent years it's a very difficult decision.

Like I said, a disappointment. Fantastic designs ruined by awful quality and asinine pricing.

 

[Fat Moron]

MX Master 3, or the MX Vertical/Lift that I'd consider buying due to the shape and functionality, but given the asking price for those and the complete disregard for build quality in the recent years it's a very difficult decision.

Do not pay full price for these POS mice. My MX Master 1 worked perfectly for 4+ years, surviving billions of clicks. MX Master 3 left mouse button died just after a year, and the Master 3S I replaced it with also died just after a year. Nice ergonomics, the best battery life, but with the parts quality of an Aliexpress knockoff.