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Brighton paid £5M for Caceido and sold him to Chelsea for £115M. That’s insanely good business. I know their owner is a data scientist or something so they’re big on the numbers and it seems to be working out.
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The Matildas doing well has me actually watching a game of soccer, fuck me sideways.
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How about now?
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Reckon I cursed them. I may continue to watch them in the future as they seem to be more competitive than the men's team.
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I honestly don't know how they are going to finance all of this. Sure, they had some whacky expensive transfers in the past, but they are usually known for not paying high transfer fees and doing solid business. From all the big clubs in Europa that are not owned by some oil sheik country they are the only ones who are in no debts and have a good chunk of own capital left.
It reminds me a bit of the time 11 years ago, when their reign of terror started. Back then they threw around a lot of money and it led to them winning Bundesliga 11 times in a row now plus winning the DFB cup 7 times and winning the champions league 2 times.
But their sponsorship deal with Qatar ended last season and there are no reports about them gaining another highly paid deal so yeah, I still wonder how they are going to finance everything.
They sold Mane and got allegedly their transfer fee they paid to Liverpool back. But Kane is now going to earn the amount they paid for Mane. So there are still 100 million plus left to finance.
Allegedly they are now in contact with Man City to get one of their goalkeepers as replacement until Neuer is back. That will cost them probably another massive fee.
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They were able to put together a solid team without breaking the bank by having a plan put together. Bayern had a way of playing that forced Pep to play around the style instead of having bayern change to the Pep Barca style. It was easy to identify players to play the style as well, since all of Germany was developing those kinds of players. And the fact that they didn't spend more money than they were making was the amazing part. But now they went for Naglesmann who was trying to alter the way they played to an insane degree then dumped him for Tuchel who will change the style again. There is no direction here
Yeah the sponsorship deal was a problem for the fans. So not being owned by a single owner really puts you in a shit spot. I think the Kane transfer and a few others were funded by the rainy day fund, but they can't afford to have any mistakes now. I think they are spent dry. With Maguire staying at United, they can't offload Pavard as easily
Which means they are stuck with this issue. Neuer and Muller are going to become big issues for them going forward. Neuer needs to be replaced but he's too big at the club and Muller still produces enough to warrant a spot on the pitch despite the fact that his replacements are getting hidden
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A lot of journalists coming out now saying the decision to bring Greenwood back into United has pretty much been confirmed. Seems odd that there's no links of him moving to the Saudi League given they would welcome him and his actions with open arms.
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I'm starting to think the toughness and competitiveness of the Premier League are kinda overrated.
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It would basically fund a United transfer and the PR of him still playing is a mess; might as well dump him in the Saudi league. He'll likely end up playing for the Jamaica national team too in a few years. Send him to Henderson's team. Be the perfect cocktail of cunts together.
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There's no reason to bid for him right now. Although, he would be really cheap right now considering United couldn't get rid of Maguire
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Hot tinfoil hat take: Pep Guardiola is the god of football but he is a cursed one.
It hasn't anything to do with Nagelsmann or Tuchel but
1) Bayern is doomed to fail bc they started their era of dominance on a high note.
2) Guardiola left footsteps that are to big to fit in.
3) Freak accidents, unnamed and unsolved issues
Here are the puzzle pieces:
2011/12 season was when we saw for the last time a team winning Bundesliga that is not FC Bayern. It was also the season where Bayern lost the CL finale in their home stadium against Chelsea.
After this season Uli Hoeneß made one now (in)famous statement; that FC Bayern is going to built a team that will dominate the German league and that all the other teams would need binoculars to see FC Bayern ever again.
Jupp Heynckes, an old Bayern legend, started the attack. 2012 was the season where Neuer joined and Bayern won straight away the double and not only the double but the tripple bc they also won the CL this season. They dominated Bundesliga and won it with 91 points, scored 98 goals and got only 18.
Basically they started their effort for total dominance with a fucking tripple.
Under Guardiola Bayern played the most beautiful to watch football of their existence. It wasn't 100% Barcelona-Guardiola-football but very close and had it's touch of Bayern-football. In terms of gameplay it was peak FC Bayern. Bc of Guardiola, easily the best coach in football history.
Since then Bayern doesn't only want to be dominat as fuck but is also trying to recreate the beautifulness and magic of Guardiola football. They don't only want to want to dominate but also to look beautiful while doing it.
Niko Kovac (current coach of Wolfsburg) came to Bayern from Eintracht Frankfurt for the 2018/19 season, after winning the DFB cup with Eintracht Frankfurt against Bayern.
In his first season with Bayern Kovac won the double (Bundesliga and DFB cup). But it was also the season where Bayern were the weakest with only scoring 78 points. Their goal output was ok with 88 goals but they also got 32. So there was some light but also some shadow. Kovac needed to improve the team and to achieve better results.
Which he didn't bc in his 2nd season he got fired after the 10th matchday and Hansi Flick took over. This was the season where corona struck and everything was put on hold. When football came back on track and the national leagues and international cups were continued it ended with Bayern winning all six titles a club can win within a year. Basically this was the absolute peak of FC Bayern in terms of success. Only FC Barcelona was able to do that before and at the moment we can watch Man City doing the same. Still an outstanding achievement, no matter if a 3rd club is achieving it so shortly after Bayern did.
Because of their weak start into the season they only had 82 points at the end but they scored 100 goals in Bundesliga. So I think it's safe to say if they would have had the form they had after Flick took over they would have easily scored more points in Bundesliga and probably scored even more goals. But that's an if. The point is that the 82 points only look weak on paper.
The following season they won again Bundesliga but failed in every other competition. Flick left the club and became coach of the German national team.
Now let's take a look at German national team under Flick. What did he achieve? Literally nothing. The team is continuing to play the worst football since Löw won the world cup. We have failed in every tournament since Flick took over.
To be fair, the issues within our national team are more complexe and run deeper than to blame it only on Flick. But it doesn't look good for Flick either. Keyword here: astroturfing
Our media went nuts during Flick's 2nd Bayern season. There was literally an opinion war going on in all the media about if Flick should take over the national team immediately or after he finished his season with Bayern. There was not a single voice being critical of Flick at that time. He literally got astroturfed into becoming national team coach after 3/4 of a season where Bayern won literally everything. During a freak time (corona virus).
After Flick followed Nagelsmann. We all know how it ended. He got fired mid season for allegedly not improving the team well enough and all the titles being on risk. Tuchel took over and the outcame was the same with Nagelsmann before: they only won Bundesliga.
And here is another theory: Nagelsmann was doomed to fail bc he is following the footsteps of two big things:
1) the best coach of the all time, Guardiola, still overshadowing FC Bayern
2) the freak season under Flick during the pandemic
And not only was Nagelsmann doomed to fail but Tuchel is too doomed to fail. Because of all the unnamed unrefurbished issues within the club that follow the Guardiola era, the Kovac era and the Flick/corona era.
FC Bayern has moved itself into a position similar to PSG: Total dominace in the domestic league but not competitive enough for international trophies.
Of course, Bayern isn't that much of a failure like PSG bc Bayern actually won international trophies since their rise and era of dominance and won more domestic trophies. But there is still some discrepancy here. Within the last 11 years Bayern won Bundesliga 11x times and the DFB cup 7x but only two international trophies (not counting the ones during the sixtruple season bc let's be honest, who cares about these trophies in the end of the day?).
The domestic dominace of PSG started around the same time Bayern started their dominance.
But is there some lesson or even moral to learn? I don't know. Maybe "be careful what you wish for"? As Bayern got what they wanted (becoming a dominante team) but basically leaving them unaible to improved and to reach higher grounds.
At least it will be fascinating to see how Man City will do once Guardiola leaves. Can they continue their dominance in the PL and internationally? if not then maybe the lesson is that Pep fucking Guardiola is the most freakish person ever becoming involved in football coaching. If so then Guardiola is still the best coach of ever.
Guardiola led Bayern to unknown heights, he led Barcelona to unknwon heights, he is leading Man City to unknown heights. The era of Guardiola, which we are all living in, is the peak of football. He is the fucking god of football but he is also a curse bc look at Barcelona and their current state, how they are doomed to succeed or the club may even vanish bc of their financial gambling. Look at Bayern, dominant but not dominant enough, haunted by their past, getting what they ask for but also not getting what they asked for.
1) Bayern is doomed to fail bc they started their era of dominance on a high note.
2) Guardiola left footsteps that are to big to fit in.
3) Freak accidents, unnamed and unsolved issues
Here are the puzzle pieces:
2011/12 season was when we saw for the last time a team winning Bundesliga that is not FC Bayern. It was also the season where Bayern lost the CL finale in their home stadium against Chelsea.
After this season Uli Hoeneß made one now (in)famous statement; that FC Bayern is going to built a team that will dominate the German league and that all the other teams would need binoculars to see FC Bayern ever again.
Jupp Heynckes, an old Bayern legend, started the attack. 2012 was the season where Neuer joined and Bayern won straight away the double and not only the double but the tripple bc they also won the CL this season. They dominated Bundesliga and won it with 91 points, scored 98 goals and got only 18.
Basically they started their effort for total dominance with a fucking tripple.
Under Guardiola Bayern played the most beautiful to watch football of their existence. It wasn't 100% Barcelona-Guardiola-football but very close and had it's touch of Bayern-football. In terms of gameplay it was peak FC Bayern. Bc of Guardiola, easily the best coach in football history.
Since then Bayern doesn't only want to be dominat as fuck but is also trying to recreate the beautifulness and magic of Guardiola football. They don't only want to want to dominate but also to look beautiful while doing it.
Niko Kovac (current coach of Wolfsburg) came to Bayern from Eintracht Frankfurt for the 2018/19 season, after winning the DFB cup with Eintracht Frankfurt against Bayern.
In his first season with Bayern Kovac won the double (Bundesliga and DFB cup). But it was also the season where Bayern were the weakest with only scoring 78 points. Their goal output was ok with 88 goals but they also got 32. So there was some light but also some shadow. Kovac needed to improve the team and to achieve better results.
Which he didn't bc in his 2nd season he got fired after the 10th matchday and Hansi Flick took over. This was the season where corona struck and everything was put on hold. When football came back on track and the national leagues and international cups were continued it ended with Bayern winning all six titles a club can win within a year. Basically this was the absolute peak of FC Bayern in terms of success. Only FC Barcelona was able to do that before and at the moment we can watch Man City doing the same. Still an outstanding achievement, no matter if a 3rd club is achieving it so shortly after Bayern did.
Because of their weak start into the season they only had 82 points at the end but they scored 100 goals in Bundesliga. So I think it's safe to say if they would have had the form they had after Flick took over they would have easily scored more points in Bundesliga and probably scored even more goals. But that's an if. The point is that the 82 points only look weak on paper.
The following season they won again Bundesliga but failed in every other competition. Flick left the club and became coach of the German national team.
Now let's take a look at German national team under Flick. What did he achieve? Literally nothing. The team is continuing to play the worst football since Löw won the world cup. We have failed in every tournament since Flick took over.
To be fair, the issues within our national team are more complexe and run deeper than to blame it only on Flick. But it doesn't look good for Flick either. Keyword here: astroturfing
Our media went nuts during Flick's 2nd Bayern season. There was literally an opinion war going on in all the media about if Flick should take over the national team immediately or after he finished his season with Bayern. There was not a single voice being critical of Flick at that time. He literally got astroturfed into becoming national team coach after 3/4 of a season where Bayern won literally everything. During a freak time (corona virus).
After Flick followed Nagelsmann. We all know how it ended. He got fired mid season for allegedly not improving the team well enough and all the titles being on risk. Tuchel took over and the outcame was the same with Nagelsmann before: they only won Bundesliga.
And here is another theory: Nagelsmann was doomed to fail bc he is following the footsteps of two big things:
1) the best coach of the all time, Guardiola, still overshadowing FC Bayern
2) the freak season under Flick during the pandemic
And not only was Nagelsmann doomed to fail but Tuchel is too doomed to fail. Because of all the unnamed unrefurbished issues within the club that follow the Guardiola era, the Kovac era and the Flick/corona era.
FC Bayern has moved itself into a position similar to PSG: Total dominace in the domestic league but not competitive enough for international trophies.
Of course, Bayern isn't that much of a failure like PSG bc Bayern actually won international trophies since their rise and era of dominance and won more domestic trophies. But there is still some discrepancy here. Within the last 11 years Bayern won Bundesliga 11x times and the DFB cup 7x but only two international trophies (not counting the ones during the sixtruple season bc let's be honest, who cares about these trophies in the end of the day?).
The domestic dominace of PSG started around the same time Bayern started their dominance.
But is there some lesson or even moral to learn? I don't know. Maybe "be careful what you wish for"? As Bayern got what they wanted (becoming a dominante team) but basically leaving them unaible to improved and to reach higher grounds.
At least it will be fascinating to see how Man City will do once Guardiola leaves. Can they continue their dominance in the PL and internationally? if not then maybe the lesson is that Pep fucking Guardiola is the most freakish person ever becoming involved in football coaching. If so then Guardiola is still the best coach of ever.
Guardiola led Bayern to unknown heights, he led Barcelona to unknwon heights, he is leading Man City to unknown heights. The era of Guardiola, which we are all living in, is the peak of football. He is the fucking god of football but he is also a curse bc look at Barcelona and their current state, how they are doomed to succeed or the club may even vanish bc of their financial gambling. Look at Bayern, dominant but not dominant enough, haunted by their past, getting what they ask for but also not getting what they asked for.
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Kevin De Bruyne (Belgium & Manchester City)
Erling Haaland (Norway & Manchester City)
Lionel Messi (Argentina & Paris, now at Inter Miami)
4 İlkay Gündoğan (Germany & Manchester City, now at Barcelona) – 129 points
5 Rodri (Spain & Manchester City) – 110 points
6 Kylian Mbappé (France & Paris) – 82 points
7 Luka Modrić (Croatia & Real Madrid) – 33 points
8 Marcelo Brozović (Croatia & Inter, now at Al Nassr) – 20 points
9 Declan Rice (England & West Ham, now at Arsenal) – 14 points
10 Alexis Mac Allister (Argentina & Brighton, now at Liverpool) – 12 points
11 Jesús Navas (Spain & Sevilla) – 6 points
I can't believe the last 4 names in the list were voted for the player of the season while Vini Jr. got 0 votes.
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It looks like FC Bayern found a new goalkeeper. Some guy from Maccabi Tel Aviv and I'm not joking. Really, I'm not making it up.
Source: t-online.de "New goalkeeper"
Other news around FC Bayern:
- Inter Mailand made an offer for Parvard
- Tuchel is already clashing with the higher ups of the club bc he insists on bringing in someone for the 6 position (allegedly Verrati from PSG) but it seems like the higher ups don't see the need to get another new player
- some school kids from Spain stole a couple of dozen Bayern jerseys from the official Bayern fan store in Munich
Source: t-online.de "New goalkeeper"
Other news around FC Bayern:
- Inter Mailand made an offer for Parvard
- Tuchel is already clashing with the higher ups of the club bc he insists on bringing in someone for the 6 position (allegedly Verrati from PSG) but it seems like the higher ups don't see the need to get another new player
- some school kids from Spain stole a couple of dozen Bayern jerseys from the official Bayern fan store in Munich
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Declan Rice and Jesus Navas are the 2 odd men out from there tbh. Mac Allister was a revelation on both Brighton and Argentina so him getting a shout at the bottom is fine for me. Brozovic had croatia and inter on his resume so that's warranted. Might be weird with the placements of 4-7 but they all belong.
Who else were they going to get for maybe a season before being replaced by Neuer again. Seems about right for the move
Yeah. I thought when the Maguire deal to West Ham fell through that Pavard was fucked but Inter stepped in. Probably have some money free now that they aren't going to be paying for Lukaku
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The new guy will be the replacement for Uhlreich. They are going with Uhlreich as #1 now until Neuer will be back. So they kind of downgraded their goalkeeper plans.
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Neuer had too much power at Bayern. There was no plans for succession because Neuer wouldn't allow it and now his injury has left bayern completely fucked
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It's Salah Saturday lads
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Napoli's ex-coach Spalletti is new coach of the Italian national team.