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Gonzalo Bonadeo article -Spanish- on Conmebol's decisions.
(I don't give a damn about fútbol outside of Captain Tsubasa II (NES), but this is both relevant and worth aggregating).


Instead of issuing threats, sanctions and fines, Conmebol should give explanations.
The joy of witnessing a team capable of winning a long-elusive tournament, even without playing at their full potential, transcends all other perspectives. Yet, being fixated on the remarkable achievement of an exceptional cycle can become a necessary narcotic, leading us to downplay a disgrace that deserves almost as much attention as the sporting outcome.

Predicting what would happen was as challenging as ignoring that something bad would occur. This Copa América, plagued by the lack of professionalism (or perhaps interest) from the organizers and the historical baggage of CONMEBOL, was a foregone conclusion.

The current situation tempts us to invent nonexistent adjectives to describe the disdain with which the pre-tournament preparations were handled. It not only inconvenienced many spectators but also caused a delay of an hour and fifteen minutes before the match began. Has anything similar ever happened in a playoff between the Lakers and the Celtics? In nearly sixty Super Bowl editions? When the New Jersey Devils defeated the Dallas Stars in the NHL’s first final of the century? Not even in 1990 when the Cincinnati Reds swept the Oakland Athletics in four games. And there’s always time to adjust baseball game schedules.

This isn’t about playful examples; it’s a shortcut to put things in context. The owners of major North American sports wouldn’t allow anything to diminish the value they add to their competitions, unlike in many other countries. As previously stated, beyond the quality of the game and the result, they strive to make everything else worthwhile—for the fans and the price of admission.

However, football, or soccer as they call it, doesn’t belong to that elite. Despite having housed some of the world’s best players—from Pelé and Cruyff to Messi and Luis Suárez—soccer hasn’t achieved the same popular roots as other sports. Moreover, the organization’s competence remains lacking.

Let’s revisit the ongoing Copa América chaos. Poor field conditions, turf rolls laid for one event and then removed for another, threats against those who voiced complaints, and the recent security debacle during the Colombia-Uruguay match—all of this tainted the tournament’s atmosphere.

Marcelo Bielsa’s powerful soliloquy in a recent press conference resonates more than ever. It doesn’t matter if no one explicitly predicted what unfolded. What matters is that, in a context oscillating between incompetence and arrogance, the decision to host the historic South American Championship outside its traditional territory for the second time in four editions was a glaring mistake. Although 2016 feels distant, celebrating the centenary of the tournament in North America sent a clear signal.

To begin with, stepping onto that turf opened the door to the massive corruption scandal known as the FIFA Gate. Many South American federation presidents and their associates were arrested, thanks to the U.S. justice system. It was an opportunity to set things right, but since then, other incidents have occurred.

Consider the clashes between Brazilian and Argentine fans in 2023, with the police merely suppressing the visitors. Or the absurdity of Brazilian health officials entering the field to remove Argentine players allegedly violating COVID rules—no one clarified whether there was indeed falsified immigration documentation—prematurely ending a classic match.


And speaking of classics, the infamous River Plate vs. Boca Juniors final played at Santiago Bernabéu Stadium in Madrid highlighted whether today’s matches surpass those of the past.


An organization incapable of hosting its most significant match on home soil and unable to prevent its flagship national team rivalry from turning into a scandal should prompt its representatives to exercise more moderation. Perhaps they could start by not disciplining or fining a coach if their team is five minutes late for the second half.


Once again, raw talent far exceeds managerial capacity.


The paradox lies in bidding farewell to Ángel Di María while beginning to miss Luis Suárez and Lionel Messi. Those who consistently mishandle things remain securely entrenched, seemingly immune to any consequences—even if the FIFA Gate temporarily refuted that notion.


Many might expect someone to resign after last night’s debacle. Given the precedents, Miami’s stain appears to be just another mark on the tiger.

P.S.: Usually, Argentinians as fans in foreign countries are an embarrassment.
They've earned that reputation.
But Colombians took the Grand Third World Nigger Country Prize home with their last 2 matches.

Bite on it to see if it's made of gold, maladjusted apes.-
 
Are american this shocked because of the finals? That was nothing lol.

This final problems are quite light. No one died. Sudaca football has so many people dying because of the fights that happens between organizadas and whoever gets in the crossfire.

National teams games are always the diet version of the game here, since the tickets are expensive, the lower classes will not be able to go into the game. So this cuts out the insane people. Even the chants are quite shittu compared to any level of the teams here.

The invasion of fans inside the stadium usually doesn't happen because the police beats the shit of them up way before they get to reach the stadium, and security is made in such long protocols that it doesn't happen near any cameras or journalists to see.

There are many cases where you can only hold one supporting single crowd because of constant fighting and trouble through decades. The sudaca football culture is totally different from the american sports culture. They try to make it more european like every years with changes into the stadiums, one legged finals, neutral field at the finals, that forgot the origins of it. To change it into a product that they can sell: one example: people going to the match wearing their team shirt or colors. Depending of the game, if you do this in south america, you are putting a target in yourself to be beaten up by a mob. You need to have a level of malice and reading to not be fucking retarded and understand the context of the situation.


And this shit goes deep like, if you play for Corinthians, you cant use anything Green because it is the colors of their biggest rivals Palmeiras, even making they pay fees if they break this rule. Or like no blue can be seen in Beira-rio that even contracts are signed in red tinted pens. Or when coca cola tried to sponsor Grêmio and had to change their iconic red color to black since their biggest rivals are a red team.
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In the brazilian's specific case since I dont know much about the other countries, they can try and succeed at changing the upper class national play between nations football into something more european, but this shit will not change the true clubs sentiments. This divide between national clubs and international play will only grow bigger and people are going to be more distant to the national team in favor of their clubs.

My favorite player isn't even a Brazilian, it is an argentinian dude who played for almost a decade here. He wasn't the best player, but he was our best, and in his last game you could see people crying, being emotive over it. It wasnt some Joaozinho who was bought by Real Madrid and spent his whole career playing at europe and we could just see him play in the TV or a video game. This real connection that people have with clubs and their players means so much more than whoever plays at some third level in europe and gets called to play in brazil and nobody fucking knows who he is.
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But everyone here knows Gabigol, Fagner, Rogério Ceni, Fred, Hulk, Scarpa, Geromel, Pedro and respect them as players, even when they are at other teams.

The cultural divide between sudaca football and american sports are already big, and if we compare the cultural divide between brazil own clubs culture and the national team, the gap is growing more and more. That is why you see people being deluded so much as the years goes on (which is funny, since brazil falls and argentina rise are similar where they tend to believe their players more and we tend to dislike ours) as they keep winning and we losing.

One of my favorite brazil game was the final of Copa America 2004 against an incredible argentina team, when our team was not the main team (it was a bunch of brasileirão lads) and we managed to equalize in the end of the game and get to penalties and win inside Peru.


Tl;dr: cultural differences are to blame
 
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How many times do I have to tell you to fuck off?

In Mexican news, Jaime Lozano tapped out and Mexico gives the reigns back to Javier Aguirre (the man that dragged them into the WC in 2002 and 2010, was investigated in Spain for losing matches on purpose) since Lozano refused to be his assistant.
Mexican media coped the whole tournament about how easy Argentina had it even tho they were in the same bracket.
Mexico has proceeded to be mad that people in other countries believe Sergio Perez isn't good enough to be F1 and is only being pushed because Mexicans are consoomers.
 
ya'll niggas ready for the world cup in 26?
Okay, I see you guys know about the pre-match shitshow at the Copa America final.
What really spiced things up now is that Ramon Jesurun, the president of the Colombian football federation (FCF) was arrested in that clusterfuck. Same with his son.

Translated title: Ramon Jesurun handcuffed and in orange uniform: that's how the president of the FCF appeared in front of a judge in Miami

Title: The millionaire fine that Jesurun could pay for his altercation with Miami authorities
 
If anything Kane was hampering the team

Same story as always and half the squad failed to turn up. Bowen would have won it👀
Honestly, Kane was part of the problem but a bigger one was not knowing the best formation. The 3 at the back was probably the best chance they had to get as many of their best players involved but Kane as the center forward means that a midfield of Palmer, Bellingham, Foden, Rice, Mainoo etc was going to be even more crowded. Southgate isn't prepared or capable to make a few tough decisions like benching Kane, putting Saka as a left wing back, and putting Foden out wide
 
Honestly, Kane was part of the problem but a bigger one was not knowing the best formation. The 3 at the back was probably the best chance they had to get as many of their best players involved but Kane as the center forward means that a midfield of Palmer, Bellingham, Foden, Rice, Mainoo etc was going to be even more crowded. Southgate isn't prepared or capable to make a few tough decisions like benching Kane, putting Saka as a left wing back, and putting Foden out wide
I think Foden out wide was a problem, he kept drifting back to centre. Would have been better having foden central, Gordon on the wing and Bellingham preening for his PR company on the bench
 
In German footy news, Hannover 96 got a huge win delivered by our highest court, the Bundesgerichtshof, as it was ruled that Martin Kind is no longer head of the club.

That's actually a huge deal but needs a bit of a dive into the lore of Hannover 96 and how football is organized in Germany.

You very likely have heard about the so called 50+1 rule that we have which prevents a single person/company/investor to take over ownership of a football club. Basically all our clubs are still owned by it's members. Only exceptions are VfL Wolfsburg (owned by Volkswagen), Bayer 04 Leverkusen (owned by Bayer), RB Leipzig (owned by Red Bull) and operating in a grey area TSG Hoffenheim (officially owned by it's members but de facto lead by Dietmar Hopp, a billionaire who founded SAP).

For example, FC Bayern is owned by the core club FC Bayern e.V. who holds 75% ownership. In this group are the club members organized (360.000 people) who are all eligible to vote on certain decisions in the yearly club meetings. The other 25% are split up among Adidas, Audi and the Allianz (an insurance company). The football division of FC Bayern got outsourced and became the FC Bayern AG with the same ownership as the FC Bayern e.V. (75% the members, 25% the three companies). Most of our professional clubs operate that way with the football division being split away from the core club while still owned by at least the club members who alway hold at least 50+1%. That way the club members always will have the last word and a club can't be overtaken by someone outside the club.

The core club of Hannover 96 is Hannover 96 e.V. but it got split up at the end of 90s and the football division became it's own entity which then later got overtaken by Martin Kind, a multi millionaire. This lead to the sometimes hilarious situation where the members of the core club decided this way but Kind said "Fuck you" and decided in another way which led to massive infights within the club and to a year long lawfare between both sides with different people in leading positions being kicked out in one group just for them to show up in the other group and vice versa.

The court ruling that happened today is not only a big deal for Hannover 96 which now ends all their internal turmoil but now the DFL has egg on their face.
The DFB is the governing body for everything that is football in Germany.
Our 1. and 2. Bundesliga are run by the DFL tho. The DFL is where all bosses of the clubs who are part of our two highest league are organized and decided who both leagues are run. The most important thing is obviously how the money is used and most importantly who the tv revenue is split up among the clubs.

So now you might remember all the fan protests we had last season with fans interrupting the matches by throwing stuff on the pitches. This happened bc the DFL decided that it's time to get investors on board and involved with the Bundesliga and given how clubs itself are organized here and our fan culture people are no fans of investors. 2022 the DFL hold a vote about getting investors on board which the majority of clubs decided it against. But the most influental club bosses (the ones from FC Bayern, Dortmund and the like) said "Fuck that vote" and decided to go for another vote a few months later -despited stating they would accept the no vote before- which "surprisingly" turned out to be a vote for investors now.
And this is where Martin Kind becomes the important part bc 1. he is a strong opponent of the 50+1 rule and very pro investor in general and 2. the 2nd vote was hold anonymously. The members of Hannover 96 advised Kind to vote against investors getting involved with the DFL but Kind was very outspoken in public interviews about being for investors in getting involved. It doesn't take a genius to assume that Kind voted against the wishes of the members of Hannover and voted for investors bc the pro investor side only won the vote by a single vote. With the vote itself being anonymously nobody can say who voted for and who voted against investors for sure but all the clubs who voted against investors came publicly clear about their votes and so it was very, very obvious that Martin Kind actively voted against the interests of the club he was representing and against it's members.

Basically our fucking highest court actually ruled for once in favor of the people today and not in favor of the establishment and the rich. Never thought I would say this in these times where the establishment fucks us over and over again and again.
 
I'd have my money on Graham Potter replacing him. I'd much rather have Eddie Howe but it'd be wild to see him leave Newcastle after they just lost Dan Ashworth and news of their co-owner stepping down too.

People will point to Potter's time at Chelsea and say he can't manage big names, but Chelsea was a shit show of mismanagement from all levels at the time. It's a step up from Southgate imo.
 
I'd have my money on Graham Potter replacing him. I'd much rather have Eddie Howe but it'd be wild to see him leave Newcastle after they just lost Dan Ashworth and news of their co-owner stepping down too.

People will point to Potter's time at Chelsea and say he can't manage big names, but Chelsea was a shit show of mismanagement from all levels at the time. It's a step up from Southgate imo.
The international game is completely different from the club game. With the club game, you have to manage egos throughout an entire season while being tactically sound. Internationally, you just need to be people's friends and try to play the best players in whatever formation gets the most of them out there. Southgate won't get as much credit now since the Euro finals is fresh in people's minds, but in a few months he should get the credit he deserves. Just take a look at the team he inherited in 2016

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Like yeah, you could say he was gifted a golden generation but England has had many golden generations at the mens international level and they sucked. They also had lots of supposed golden generations coming up through youth levels that never did anything. Is Southgate a good manager? No, not at all. He's relegation candidate premier league level. But he managed to figure out how the international game works and turned England into a team that punches well above their weight in international tournaments. Just take a look at them and how it should have gone

2018 world cup
-Should have lose to Colombia in the round of 16. Instead fucking won in penalties. Handled Sweden and made the semi's for the first time since 1990. Lost to Croatia in extra time.

2020 (2021) Euros
-Managed to beat out Croatia and the Czech republic in their group despite tying Scotland of all teams.
-Should have lost to the Germans in the round of 16
-Could have easily collapsed against a strong Denmark team. Lost to Italy in penalties

2022 World Cup
-They should have made it to the quarter finals, and they did. Just imagine saying that about an England team 10-15 years ago.
-Nearly took France to extra time. Only the curse of Harry Kane prevented it (Not down to Southgate)

2024 Euros
-Played like dogshit in their group but still got through
-Somehow got through (and won another penalty shootout) all the way to the semi finals
-Beat a better Netherlands team

The only reason this looks like shit is because Ingerland has a belief they should be doing better. And Southgate is a huge reason for it. I am surprised to see that he stepped down. If I was being generous, he might have realized he has taken them as far as he can while giving the blue print on how to make the national team good and managed. If whoever comes next follows his blueprint on creating a relationship with the players, getting over the club affiliations, and then having some more creativity with tactics, England might actually be good



I heard that Southgate passed his resignation to the FA. They passed it back to him, he passed it to Bellingham who passed it to Kane who passed it back to the Keeper
 
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The only reason this looks like shit is because Ingerland has a belief they should be doing better.
Its also more subjective than that, in both Euro showings if the game management had been a bit more adventurous, maybe the team would have won. Especially against Italy (less so against Spain), the game was right there for the taking
 
I did not watch the England-Switzerland game, but England just never looked like they were capable of playing winning soccer.

Playing defensive is fine when you are tasked with beating a bigger opponent, but ... England had a solid squad and this is why it was so frustrating to see.

England lacked a midfielder dictating the pace of the game. You need this to take advantage of Harry Kane. If Southgate was planning on playing defensively, he needed to start Watkins. If he wanted to start Harry Kane, he needed two pacy wingers on the pitch always and Bellingham playing as the 8. Mainoo + Rice in the final is practically begging Spain to dominate possession and play to their strength.

Overall it was a good tournament. I was really disappointed by the referee in the Spain - Germany game. That was an undeniable handball.

Next England manager will be a woman btw
 
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