Game of Thrones Thread

Secret Asshole said:
They definitely hate this show and had no problem absolutely ruining it. They don't care because they're 'big shots' now. But I don't know. Having the reputation of fucking up one of the best shows in the history of television to the point where everyone on the internet will unit in collective hatred of them doesn't seem like a pertinent career move. Like, why would I ever watch anything these two faggots are involved in?

SJW Twitter is going to hate them for making their white savior go crazy and have her brown army rape and kill white women, book readers are going to hate seeing the annihilation of every plot, show watchers are going to hate seeing the annihilation of all character development. I mean, the only people who are going to like this are people with: shit taste and no understanding of narrative story-telly and shills who are paid.
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You mean the people from Burlington bar that cheer on shocking deaths as if it's a goal in a sport?
 
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Well those people are fucking re.tards who will eat whatever shit is in front of them. So yes. The thing I've noticed about 'shocking' authors and killing off good characters is...well, they leave you without good characters. This problem is exacerbated in TV shows because you usually have limited characters to work with.

I've also read hypothesis that Martin 'sabotaged' the show, because he didn't want D&D to be more known for GoT than him. So he delayed publishing any material for them to work with once he saw how successful they were, while he did publish several novels and edited stuff until now. Martin also doesn't do outlines, so the outlines he gave them might have just been hypothesis. He writes in an organic way, seeing where the story drives him. So those outlines were probably next to useless. He also prided himself on GoT being 'unadaptable'. When that wasn't true, it might have been he took his ball and went home.

If GoT is known for a terrible finale, you only have Martin to turn to for a good one. Its kind of diabolical if you think about it.

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Dafuq does Tyrion have anymore to do with the main plot of this crapfest? Then again, I should be cheering for this outcome since I've longed hated this character. Doesn't help that he killed off the best character in the show either.
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Just to be shocking. That's all really.
 
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Secret Asshole said:
Well those people are fucking re.tards who will eat whatever shit is in front of them. So yes. The thing I've noticed about 'shocking' authors and killing off good characters is...well, they leave you without good characters. This problem is exacerbated in TV shows because you usually have limited characters to work with.

I've also read hypothesis that Martin 'sabotaged' the show, because he didn't want D&D to be more known for GoT than him. So he delayed publishing any material for them to work with once he saw how successful they were, while he did publish several novels and edited stuff until now. Martin also doesn't do outlines, so the outlines he gave them might have just been hypothesis. He writes in an organic way, seeing where the story drives him. So those outlines were probably next to useless. He also prided himself on GoT being 'unadaptable'. When that wasn't true, it might have been he took his ball and went home.

If GoT is known for a terrible finale, you only have Martin to turn to for a good one. Its kind of diabolical if you think about it.
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The old bastard needs to get fucking publishing already before he croaks and leaves us all blue balled. Even if he tells a select few his planned out ending, it just won't be as organic if anyone ever tries picking up where he left off (if they even can).
That aside, I absolutely see him being petty enough to do this. The quality in writing has obviously lowered and it's most noticeable in how dumbed down the characters are.
 
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Feline Supremacist said:
Yet Jon didn't kill Ramsay, the guy who raped Sansa and killed Rickon right in front of him but he kills Dany because whatever. What a lousy end to his arc.
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The more you look the more inconsistencies you will find. Tyrion and Varys are talking with 21 century morals, and burning people alive is suddenly awful.
Yet Sansa killed a man by releasing hounds to eat him alive.
Yet Tyrion committed patricide and strangled a woman to death, because of daddy issues.
 
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Spatula said:
The more you look the more inconsistencies you will find. Tyrion and Varys are talking with 21 century morals, and burning people alive is suddenly awful.
Yet Sansa killed a man by releasing hounds to eat him alive.
Yet Tyrion committed patricide and strangled a woman to death, because of daddy issues.
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I forgot why Jon (and Beric) were brought back from the dead. It couldn't have been anything to do with the wights, White Walkers or Night King because they got ninjaed by a 90lb girl. And everyone now knows Jon came back from the dead but just accept it. I guess this happens every day in Westeros.
 
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Spatula said:
The more you look the more inconsistencies you will find. Tyrion and Varys are talking with 21 century morals, and burning people alive is suddenly awful.
Yet Sansa killed a man by releasing hounds to eat him alive.
Yet Tyrion committed patricide and strangled a woman to death, because of daddy issues.
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That there was zero reason for Jaime to even leave King’s Landing at the end of season 7.
That the only reason for Jon’s resurrection is for Arya to hear he’s at Winterfell to get her up there.
That Bran only told Theon he was a good man because he needed to delay him a few extra seconds for the Night King.

It goes on and on...
 
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Every time you think the production staff can't possibly be as stupid as you think, they -- dare I say it? -- subvert your expectations.

David Nutter (E4 director) was asked why Euron didn't put 2 and 2 together about Cersei's pregnancy when Tyrion brought it up. Nutter's answer?

"He's not paying that much attention."

Presumably Euron was thinking about pies or something, same as Dany when she forgot about the Iron Fleet.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/game...director-questions_n_5cd45cb5e4b0796a95d84ece
 
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Spatula said:
The more you look the more inconsistencies you will find. Tyrion and Varys are talking with 21 century morals, and burning people alive is suddenly awful.
Yet Sansa killed a man by releasing hounds to eat him alive.
Yet Tyrion committed patricide and strangled a woman to death, because of daddy issues.
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those are SJW morals, often detached from the real world. I can't say that majority of Americans share those morals, never mind all the countries outside of first world: mutilations, honor killings, torture, corporal punishment. Even US does a fair amount of torture and have off-shore secret prisons for "extraordinary rendition"

In terms of slavery, it still exist in substantially similar form as it did long time ago. It's a financial institution, it's not about race or ethnicity. In today's world of passports and IDs, there is no reason to have people in chains, because there is no way that you can run. As to physical abuse, typical slaves cost around a car pricetag, so running them into the ground was not as common as people like to claim. In any case, financial slavery still exists today as it did, no breaker of chains here, people accept it.

The writers are projecting their bullshit beliefs and dreams into characters in GOT. At least DRRM was kind enough to develop his characters into some realistic fashion corresponding to his world of GOT. Current writers took it off rails and on a bullshit spree. Anything can happen that will never be consistent with DRRM's universe.
 
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Spatula said:
The more you look the more inconsistencies you will find. Tyrion and Varys are talking with 21 century morals, and burning people alive is suddenly awful.
Yet Sansa killed a man by releasing hounds to eat him alive.
Yet Tyrion committed patricide and strangled a woman to death, because of daddy issues.
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I'm sorry but this is not true, burning people alive is not "21 century morals" remember the shit stannis got for burning people?
Remember when Jon killed Mance Raider so he wouldn't burn to death.
Burning people doesn't seem like an accepted form of execution in westeros, it's a culture thing and it makes sense.

Sansa killed the guy who raped her, not really the same is it? And tyrion killed his father after he sentenced him to die.


I'm starting to find more and more dany fanboys, /freefolk is a shitshow right now, https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bnjh7a/inspired_millions_girl_power_icon_of_a_generation/

Wtf is this you twats, this isn't a fucking disney movie.
 
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Secret Asshole said:
Well those people are fucking re.tards who will eat whatever shit is in front of them. So yes. The thing I've noticed about 'shocking' authors and killing off good characters is...well, they leave you without good characters. This problem is exacerbated in TV shows because you usually have limited characters to work with.

I've also read hypothesis that Martin 'sabotaged' the show, because he didn't want D&D to be more known for GoT than him. So he delayed publishing any material for them to work with once he saw how successful they were, while he did publish several novels and edited stuff until now. Martin also doesn't do outlines, so the outlines he gave them might have just been hypothesis. He writes in an organic way, seeing where the story drives him. So those outlines were probably next to useless. He also prided himself on GoT being 'unadaptable'. When that wasn't true, it might have been he took his ball and went home.

If GoT is known for a terrible finale, you only have Martin to turn to for a good one. Its kind of diabolical if you think about it.
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Considering how badly they mangled Stannis, Sansa, Dorne, Barristan and many more despite having book material to go by I doubt George needed to sabotage anything.
 
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Honestly it's easy to laugh at the idiots who name their baby Khaleesi, but let's be honest, HBO is the one that enabled that shit. For years they propped up Dany as being this empowered badass who could do anything and all that, but just now they're going all "well she was secretly evil the whole time!" Like if they wanted that plot twist to work they should've hinted at it way earlier, or at least stop lionizing every brutal act she did. And of course drop that whole "doomed lovers" bullshit that was Jon and Dany's romance as well.

But like, it's obvious Dany was one of D&D's fave, so of course like Jon, Bronn, Tyrion, Arya, she was gonna be portrayed more nicely since they're biased and always romanticize their faves. And just now they know the final ending and it's super half-assed.
 
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Jesus, between here and all the GOT reddits I dont think even the red wedding episode was anticipated with such absolute dread

I guess everyone is just bracing themselves to see if the absolute worst of the leaks is accurate

Still, will be nice to once again awake to an absolute hype traincrash again since my decision to stop being hyped at the end of season 4 will feel so utterly vindicated once again. Also the maymes created from this rage will probably be fine quality
 
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Judge Holden said:
Jesus, between here and all the GOT reddits I dont think even the red wedding episode was anticipated with such absolute dread

I guess everyone is just bracing themselves to see if the absolute worst of the leaks is accurate

Still, will be nice to once again awake to an absolute hype traincrash again since my decision to stop being hyped at the end of season 4 will feel so utterly vindicated once again. Also the maymes created from this rage will probably be fine quality
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I've got my spoiler checklist for this soon to be train wreck of a following episode.
 
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Slimy Time said:
I've got my spoiler checklist for this soon to be train wreck of a following episode.
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I bellieve we are in for one hell of a night

And I dont think this has been leaked, but Im betting right now that "cleganebowl" begins and ends in the space of 10 seconds and/or is mostly offscreen

Also I found a video I think most accurately sums up the mood of everyone as we wait for this shit to start
 
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