Game of Thrones Thread

[Feline Supremacist]

What's the issue with medieval war tactics in a medieval setting? There was no Geneva Convention as far as I know and the whole "might makes right" maxim is fairly accurate for the time. My only issue is introducing magic & dragons and not explaining/using them in a manner fitting the story. How does she control these flying lizards? Why doesn't she fall off? Why not hire the Faceless Men to kill your enemies? There's more but you all get my drift.

Edit; Keeping in mind GRRM has written backstories in which the Dragonlords use magic and spells to control their pets as well as using saddles and armor. And they also went full General Sherman on Westeros when they needed to.

 

[Judge Holden]

What's the issue with medieval war tactics in a medieval setting? There was no Geneva Convention as far as I know and the whole "might makes right" maxim is fairly accurate for the time. My only issue is introducing magic & dragons and not explaining/using them in a manner fitting the story. How does she control these flying lizards? Why doesn't she fall off? Why not hire the Faceless Men to kill your enemies? There's more but you all get my drift.

Setting aside Dany's spontanious turn from 21st century moralist into spiteful medieval warlord once she came to westeros, the massacre being caused by said medieval warlord being triggered by loud dingdongs is pretty damn farcical and would be over the top for a main villain let alone a central protagonist who has been an overly perfect saint up to that point.

I mean even Anakin's massacre of the younglings after a single evening being temped by Sheev makes more sense as atleast there was precedent in the whole "murdering innocents and children" thing....infact now that I mention it even the legendary cringe that was the Anakin/Padme romance was better written and plotted than whatever the fuck kind of romance Jon and Dany are supposed to have, which is gonna make the conclusion of Jon killing dany and exiling himself to the wall because he is so goshdarn sad at killing his one true perfect love particularly silly

 

[not william stenchever]

There have been tactics this season, let alone tactics that make sense in a medieval setting? When the dead attacked winterfell the defenders decided that those walls wouldn't help much and assembled outside them on one side only, and then ended up having to make a desperate retreat through the gate. They could have been up on the walls poking the dead with obsidian tipped spears as they climb. And the dead themselves only attacked one side of the fortifications instead of surrounding the city and then attacking from all angles. Oh and don't forget the Dothraki on horseback were the first ones through the gate at King's Landing and they did spectacularly as light cavalry against the heavy spearmen. Whenever I try that in Medieval II: Total War with my heavy knights they all die. If the spearmen had maintained formation they would have demolished the dothraki (in a world where things still make sense, anyways)

 

[iRON-mAn]

People seem to think she grew as a character during the whole Mereen saga but every challenge she faced she either ultimately murdered her way through it or extenuating circumstances meant someone else murdered their way through it for her.

As I said in my original post, she understood at least that she had to give something to get something. She weaponised the slaves and gave them the opportunity to overthrow their old masters, and got their love in return. She did it through violence by someone else on her behalf (the slaves slaughtering the slavers) as you say, but it still demonstrates an understanding of humanity and not just wanton bloodlust.

Here, Daenarys seems to think that the people of King's Landing should overthrown Cersei just because Daenarys is better. But how? They don't know Daenarys is better. They have no context for her arrival. And it's baffling because at a point in her story, she had learned to be underhanded and shrewd in her use of violence and has seemed to have forgotten it entirely.

I'm not suggesting Daenarys would have been some brilliant queen, simply that if D&D want to try and use the show to back up their contrived narrative, they're going about it badly, because the one instance they offered of her trying to support her backwards logic for attacking King's Landing is utterly devoid of reason, especially in context of how it actually happened.

 

[RG 448]

Wow this season went from “they wrote things out of order” to “butt-fucking hot garbage” pretty damn quick.

 

[Judge Holden]

There have been tactics this season, let alone tactics that make sense in a medieval setting? When the dead attacked winterfell the defenders decided that those walls wouldn't help much and assembled outside them on one side only, and then ended up having to make a desperate retreat through the gate. They could have been up on the walls poking the dead with obsidian tipped spears as they climb. And the dead themselves only attacked one side of the fortifications instead of surrounding the city and then attacking from all angles. Oh and don't forget the Dothraki on horseback were the first ones through the gate and they did spectacularly as light cavalry against the heavy spearmen. Whenever I try that in Medieval II: Total War with my heavy knights they all die. If the spearmen had maintained formation they would have demolished the dothraki (in a world where things still make sense, anyways)

Yeah this is why stripping the "cavalry archer" aspect of the Dothraki was a stupid as fuck move by the directors, as without this they are literally good for absolutely fucking nothing but light scouting and harrying fleeing troops. I mean for fuck sake unarmoured cavalry charging at heavily armoured pikes is shit even the basest of Total War/Age of Empires players knows not to do

 

[Feline Supremacist]

There have been tactics this season, let alone tactics that make sense in a medieval setting? When the dead attacked winterfell the defenders decided that those walls wouldn't help much and assembled outside them on one side only, and then ended up having to make a desperate retreat through the gate. They could have been up on the walls poking the dead with obsidian tipped spears as they climb. And the dead themselves only attacked one side of the fortifications instead of surrounding the city and then attacking from all angles. Oh and don't forget the Dothraki on horseback were the first ones through the gate and they did spectacularly as light cavalry against the heavy spearmen. Whenever I try that in Medieval II: Total War with my heavy knights they all die. If the spearmen had maintained formation they would have demolished the dothraki (in a world where things still make sense, anyways)

It's generally agreed that it was absolutely unimaginable anyone would fight a conventional battle (let alone one with fire witches and ice zombies) in that fashion during the medieval period but you know, D&D. The castle is a force multiplier. And you don't deploy your light calvary in that way, Not to mention the Knights of the Vale were heavy calvary and better suited for that role but IN DAYLIGHT and to funnel the wights into a choke point.

Ugh don't get me started.

 

[Marissa Moira]

None of the tactics would even fly in Heroes of Might and Magic 3.

 

[Truthspeaker]

It's tempting to post a full gallery of validation that rumours are often...just rumours, but that's besides the point. If anything, the single most important thing they could have done for Sansa Stark's character - in my limited knowledge of GoT - was have Lady Stoneheart exist in the show. Further interaction with her mother could have led to better character development more than any sexual relationship imo.

Don't take my word on Sophie Turner and Maisie Williams hooking up: all their photos together look just as gay.

There weren't this many lezbo photos of Tessa Thompson and Janelle Monáe from before last year, when Thompson came out as bisexual, Monáe came out as pansexual, and both admitted to being a couple.

I think both are still lying about their sexualities, because I have eyes, and those two dykes ping so hard, they gave me tinnitus. But I appreciate some honesty all the same.

I'm sure Maisie'll come out as bisexual or pansexual eventually. She'll also be lying, because she seems very gay. But I'd still buy her as straight before I'd by that six-foot dyke Sophie Turner was straight if she's gay enough to marry one of Taylor Swift's "ex-boyfriends".

Oh... well then. I thought sophie was a good 10 years older than maisie...

I understand. Maisie could play Humbert Humbert's stepdaughter for the next ten years, Sophie's the size of a women's basketball player, and they've played each other's siters on TV for the past decade. But relationships between actors of the same age are stunningly appropriate by celebrity standards, and they look really happy together. I say, let's cheer these dykes on, and hope they attain far more happiness than will be found in the last three seasons of their tragically abused cable show.

Let's also hope Tom Preston never finds out about this. Unless he has the decency to masturbate himself into a stroke from a mad fit of so many of his fetishes being met at once.

But it's funny to think that Game of Thrones received The Last Jedi treatment. It's even more ironic when you realise that both Rian and D&D are working on new Star Wars trilogies, and are collaborating together. Wouldn't be surprised if they stole notes from each other.

This isn't ironic.

Ironic would be Benioff and Weiss teaming up with Johnson to make a Star Wars series with tits and violence, and it actually turning out to be a masterpiece.

 

[That Chris Guy]

I can't believe Daenerys looked right into the camera and said "time to go sicko mode".

Are you sure it was that? I thought I heard, "Remember, lads: subscribe to PewDiePie".

This isn't ironic.

Ironic would be Benioff and Weiss teaming up with Johnson to make a Star Wars series with tits and violence, and it actually turning out to be a masterpiece

That would most certainly be something, but I think Rian hates Star Wars too much to make it remotely good.

 

[not william stenchever]

Ironic would be Benioff and Weiss teaming up with Johnson to make a Star Wars series with tits and violence, and it actually turning out to be a masterpiece.

Thank you for giving me a sliver of hope to make it slightly more bearable to carry on. It will be crushing when this hope inevitably is dashed but Star Wars with tits and violence is a hell of an elevator pitch.

 

[gobbogobb]

Dykes Jews dykez jewz.

Christ dude just admit you have a Jewish lesbian fetish already.

As for the show: Cleganebowl was good but too short. I didn't mind the Arya arc minus the whole pale horse bit at the end.

Euron was always worthless on the show and it's fitting he dies thinking he killed the kingslayer.

Davos and Jon can't even control their own troops and we're supposed to think they're the best choice for good guys?

At this point it's a goddamn shame but Sansa is probably the best candidate for a crown out of the whole sorry lot of survivors.

 

[Emperor Julian]

It's the bad campaign strategy which bothers me. They kept droning on about avoiding a direct attack on kings landing then constantly fucked up to the point where a direct siege was the only option. The way Tyrion kept working on the odd assumption that he could do a siege which wasnt a total shit show was a bit weird. Since pretty much every siege ever has been a total slaughter,

Well I just watched the episode and the whole dany vs jon thing is miscast. Their could be an interesting dillema of an honerable leader vs a effective leader. Which fits quite well with the moral ambigueties of the show.


As a side note I've noticed the 'woke' media have been shilling the series final despite yas queen getting shit on.....it's almost as if all the shills song and dance about strong women were nothing more than a shallow pr stunt and they're going to swallow this shit because the overlord told them to.....while stabbing the sjw's in the back,

Welcome to the fucking party pal.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Big if true: Has George R.R. Martin Secretly Written Books 6 and 7 Already?

For several years, we here at Observer have methodically tracked the progress (or lack thereof) of George R.R. Martin’s The Winds of Winter, the sixth book in his A Song of Ice and Fire series on which HBO’s Game of Thrones is based. Martin released the most recent novel in the series, A Dance With Dragons, way back in 2011 and has publicly said he never envisioned the show concluding before his own tale. But alas, the series finale of Game of Thrones will air this Sunday, and The Winds of Winter is still nowhere to be seen.

Or is it?

Former Game of Thrones star Ian McElhinney—who played Ser Barristan Selmy, a character from the series who is notably still alive in the books—made some shocking comments recently at the Epic Con convention, which took place this past April. He claimed that Martin has already finished the final two books but struck an agreement with HBO not to publish them until after the show has ended, reports Collider.

“George has already written Books 6 and 7, and as far as he’s concerned there only are seven books,” the actor reportedly said. “But he struck an agreement with David [Benioff] and Dan [Weiss], the showrunners on the series, that he would not publish the final two books until the series has completed. So if all goes well, in another month or two we might get Books 6 and 7, and I’m intrigued to know how Barristan, for instance, ends up going through those final two books. George, I talked to him during Season 1 and he did say to me that Barristan had a very interesting journey. But unfortunately I didn’t get to play all of that, so we’ll have to wait and see.”

Game changer, thy name is Ian McElhinney. Many fans—us included—have bemoaned Martin’s lack of progress on the long-awaited novels. But once it became clear around Season 5 that the show was surpassing the narrative of the books, Martin provided the showrunners with the broad strokes of his intended ending (which is hopefully handled with more care than last night’s episode, “The Bells”). Perhaps that is when this alleged agreement was reached, though this all remains completely unconfirmed at this time.

When reached for comment, HBO directed us to Random House, the publishing company behind the books. Random House has not yet responded to Observer’s request for comment.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Just imagine, for a moment, these pictures were of a male co-star doing this. I get the funny feeling they wouldn't be "Oh so quirky" and instead would be saying something about "problematic touching by older actor"

Aren't they about the same age in real life?

 

[not william stenchever]

In the tidbits of the 6th book that GRRM has meted out to us plebs (finish the fucking book you fat son of a bitch) Euron has a full set of Valyrian steel plate armor that he plundered from the ruins of Old Valyria itself. Jamie Lannister fighting and killing a man wearing armor like that would have been interesting and would take less screentime to justify than it would take for them to have actually characterized Euron at all. God, he is so useless in the show.

I hope GRRM has already written books six and seven because book Euron is actually interesting and I want to know what his endgame is.

 

[madethistocomment]

Don't take my word on Sophie Turner and Maisie Williams hooking up: all their photos together look just as gay.

There weren't this many lezbo photos of Tessa Thompson and Janelle Monáe from before last year, when Thompson came out as bisexual, Monáe came out as pansexual, and both admitted to being a couple.

I think both are still lying about their sexualities, because I have eyes, and those two dykes ping so hard, they gave me tinnitus. But I appreciate some honesty all the same.

I'm sure Maisie'll come out as bisexual or pansexual eventually. She'll also be lying, because she seems very gay. But I'd still buy her as straight before I'd by that six-foot dyke Sophie Turner was straight if she's gay enough to marry one of Taylor Swift's "ex-boyfriends".


I understand. Maisie could play Humbert Humbert's stepdaughter for the next ten years, Sophie's the size of a women's basketball player, and they've played each other's siters on TV for the past decade. But relationships between actors of the same age are stunningly appropriate by celebrity standards, and they look really happy together. I say, let's cheer these dykes on, and hope they attain far more happiness than will be found in the last three seasons of their tragically abused cable show.

Dude, just admit you wanna see them fuck. The exceptional tinfoil hat shit is a terrible cover for the thirst.

 

[Judge Holden]

In the tidbits of the 6th book that GRRM has meted out to us plebs (finish the fucking book you fat son of a bitch) Euron has a full set of Valyrian steel plate armor that he plundered from the ruins of Old Valyria itself. Jamie Lannister fighting and killing a man wearing armor like that would have been interesting and would take less screentime to justify than it would take for them to have actually charactered Euron at all. God, he is so useless in the show.

I hope GRRM has already written books six and seven because book Euron is actually interesting and I want to know what his endgame is.

Now that you mention it, The Lannister Family's Valyrian Steel blade was supposedly lost in Old Valyria and Jamie's uncle vanished during an expedition to find it. Would be rather fitting if Euron had gained possession of the sword during his trip there, maybe even being the one to kill Jamie's uncle for it and the armour, and wound up using it to mortally wound Jamie during their duel.

Either that orhave Jamie loot it from Euron's ship and then use to kill Euron.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

- hugs Revan bodypillow and sobs -

Nah, dawg. I have the same smiling face for both scenarios.

The only thing I can hope for with Star Wars these days is to see more and more people getting salty about it. I almost can't wait for the shitshow that's awaiting for the masses.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

It's the bad campaign strategy which bothers me. They kept droning on about avoiding a direct attack on kings landing then constantly fucked up to the point where a direct siege was the only option. The way Tyrion kept working on the odd assumption that he could do a siege which wasnt a total shit show was a bit weird. Since pretty much every siege ever has been a total slaughter,

Well I just watched the episode and the whole dany vs jon thing is miscast. Their could be an interesting dillema of an honerable leader vs a effective leader. Which fits quite well with the moral ambigueties of the show.


As a side note I've noticed the 'woke' media have been shilling the series final despite yas queen getting shit on.....it's almost as if all the shills song and dance about strong women were nothing more than a shallow pr stunt and they're going to swallow this shit because the overlord told them to.....while stabbing the sjw's in the back,
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Welcome to the fucking party pal.

Ah the party, yes. The salt will flow, and we'll set some wrongs a'right.