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Unlike AMD and Nvidia that gets ridiculed for trying to market 8GB cards but this 8GB AMD GPU is different because of Gaben?
The difference is that AMD is marketing 8GB dGPU's at exorbitant prices, upselling them as capable of something they're not. And if most people on Steam still game just fine with 3060's, then it's safe to assume 8GB is enough.

Because it is. It's the devs that are the problem. Optimize streaming code and assets and suddenly 8GB is viable again.
 
They're looking at what people have NOW to decide the configuration for a product they will sell in the future...
most popular gpu on steam is 3060 which launched at $329. midrange is completely ignored because its easier to price gouge, hence a midrange card costing fucking 330 dollars. new users do not want to spend 330 dollars for one part of a gaming machine. steam machine will probably be around $500
Unlike AMD and Nvidia that gets ridiculed for trying to market 8GB cards but this 8GB AMD GPU is different because of Gaben?
this is 8gb because it's not advertised as the greatest shit of all time that can do 64 terashits per megafart with ray traced ai upscaling. and because most people don't care. the people that do care about jewish upselling to 16gb models are enthusiasts who already have machines
 
Unlike AMD and Nvidia that gets ridiculed for trying to market 8GB cards but this 8GB AMD GPU is different because of Gaben?
AMD and Nvidia get ridiculed because they are trying to sell cards that should cost ~$200 for $350 with 8gb of vram and claim its the latest and greatest and is totally better than the previous cards.

As long as the steam machine is less than $600 its fine. It's not meant for the top 10% of pc gamers.
 
NVIDIA loves to be somehow worse than AMD in the marketing department. Also, that documentary seems to have opened some eyes.
 
The difference is that AMD is marketing 8GB dGPU's at exorbitant prices, upselling them as capable of something they're not. And if most people on Steam still game just fine with 3060's, then it's safe to assume 8GB is enough.

Because it is. It's the devs that are the problem. Optimize streaming code and assets and suddenly 8GB is viable again.
The original 3060 was a 12 GiB card which is indeed enough for most titles even way beyond 1080p.
 
The original 3060 was a 12 GiB card which is indeed enough for most titles even way beyond 1080p.
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And there are like four versions of a "3060" with varying amounts of VRAM and ROPs, creating confusion in the market. It's another reason why people bash on Nvidia and aren't that mad about Valve. Valve is releasing one device with one specification and telling you everything you need to know about it. Nvidia creates market confusion releasing different products under the same name. Like my old 1060, which was the 1060, as there was also the 1060 3GB that also had cut core count.
 
Steve released Linux benchmarks, I'm disappointed that he listened to Wendell and used Bazzite because it uses Gayland, and it skews Nvidia results. Should have tested on Mint, it's not like Windows is immutable so why bother with troon distro?

 
Steve released Linux benchmarks, I'm disappointed that he listened to Wendell and used Bazzite because it uses Gayland, and it skews Nvidia results. Should have tested on Mint, it's not like Windows is immutable so why bother with troon distro?

Bazzite is a troon distro, sure, but it's a dedicated gaming distro- the desktop is an afterthought just for configuration. ChimeraOS has neat patches, but didn't really configure well for me. CachyOS is Arch, which is a steeper learning curve. Bazzite just tends to be the default other than SteamOS Holo and has an easy install for Emudeck. That's probably why GN chose it.
 
Steve released Linux benchmarks, I'm disappointed that he listened to Wendell and used Bazzite because it uses Gayland, and it skews Nvidia results. Should have tested on Mint, it's not like Windows is immutable so why bother with troon distro?

according to that fat nigger its because something something it keeps results consistent
nigger I can't even remember and I watched the video. that's why he used it, because the topic is already so cripplingly autistic
 
Steve: "If more users grit their teeth through some of the initial learning pains, we think that might mean that we can kind of escape from some of the windows issues as a community and count that as a win"

Oh Steve, you optimistic bastard. Majority PC gamers these days are nigger-cattle that want things to insta-work and not have to think for more than a second. If non-gaming normalfags go "ew" at even the thought of using or even looking at Linux, what makes you think """gamers""" are going to be any different?

I appreciate the effort he and his team even went through to do this, but him hoping for an actual change that involves using Linux is just setting himself up for disappointment. As the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
 
I appreciate the effort he and his team even went through to do this, but him hoping for an actual change that involves using Linux is just setting himself up for disappointment. As the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
Look, nowadays it's trendy to glorify Linux and despise Windows. It's not about whether or not Linux is a viable alternative to Windows. It's about having a reason to moan and complain.
 
Steve: "If more users grit their teeth through some of the initial learning pains, we think that might mean that we can kind of escape from some of the windows issues as a community and count that as a win"

Oh Steve, you optimistic bastard. Majority PC gamers these days are nigger-cattle that want things to insta-work and not have to think for more than a second. If non-gaming normalfags go "ew" at even the thought of using or even looking at Linux, what makes you think """gamers""" are going to be any different?

I appreciate the effort he and his team even went through to do this, but him hoping for an actual change that involves using Linux is just setting himself up for disappointment. As the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
A couple of observations.

Firstly: I installed Steam via a fully graphical package manager and changed the account setting I was told to to point native Windows games to Proton and "it just worked". How far have average computer users devolved if that's a showstopper? I don't recall similar issues back in the pre Pentium days when we all had our games boot floppies with custom autoexec.bat and config.sys files. I also remember my first 8 bit home computer (6502 based) coming with two multi hundred page ring bound manuals covering everything from getting started to board layout diagrams, and programming reference instructions for both BASIC and assembler.

Secondly: Who decided that linux gaming needs to be a perfect retard-proof experience? It's not as if Windows gaming is or ever has been.
 
How far have average computer users devolved if that's a showstopper?
They don't even know how to change Windows 11 personalization settings, let alone boot into a USB drive to reinstall it. Yet at the same time they're hoping for SteamOS to happen, as if they had what it takes to install it.
Who decided that linux gaming needs to be a perfect retard-proof experience?
Every single idiot that froths at the mouth at the thought of Windows but lacks the basic skills needed to even try and make Windows less shit. Two digit IQ mongoloids that are too retarded to live.
It's not as if Windows gaming is or ever has been.
Doesn't matter, Windows bad, Linux good. No thinking, just rage and emotions.
 
Steve: "If more users grit their teeth through some of the initial learning pains, we think that might mean that we can kind of escape from some of the windows issues as a community and count that as a win"

Oh Steve, you optimistic bastard. Majority PC gamers these days are nigger-cattle that want things to insta-work and not have to think for more than a second. If non-gaming normalfags go "ew" at even the thought of using or even looking at Linux, what makes you think """gamers""" are going to be any different?

I appreciate the effort he and his team even went through to do this, but him hoping for an actual change that involves using Linux is just setting himself up for disappointment. As the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
Counterpoint: Steam is the largest gaming platform in the world, and they show no sign of stopping the linux shilling anytime soon.
It is still optimistic, I will grant you. But it's better than just resigning to the worst.
 
and they show no sign of stopping the linux shilling anytime soon
Except Valve isn't shilling Linux. They're shilling their hardware. That's the issue.

Not once do they explicitly tell you in their hardware marketing that it runs "Linux", but rather that it runs "SteamOS". They're treating it as their own thing, which admittedly it is, but retards do what retards do best and run their mouths about Gabe literally curb stomping Nadella like in American History X, getting everyone and their grandmother to use Linux no matter what because Valve turned it into a carbon copy of Windows in a nanosecond after the announcement. That is until the reality hits, that Linux is still as much of a heap of hopscotch shit as it always was, someone encounters an issue and then they piss and shit themselves that their delusional world they've built in their head is not the reality. Rinse and repeat.

Valve only wants to sell their hardware with their software so that they have an independent venue for the Steam store. Retards don't, can't and refuse to understand this and cause so much noise you want to blow your brains out.
 
Not once do they explicitly tell you in their hardware marketing that it runs "Linux", but rather that it runs "SteamOS".
Which is the only way you are going to get an appreciable amount of end users to actually use linux. The only alternative is to just give up and never hope for anything.
 
Which is the only way you are going to get an appreciable amount of end users to actually use linux.
The big misunderstanding there is that while yes, if you use Steam hardware you're going to be using Linux, this won't apply to the hardware you already own that's running Windows, and this is what people are bitching about the most. They don't want to buy a new computer, they want their current fancy schmancy gaming rig to run something that's not Windows. With x86, the only option is Linux. But what GN is trying to do is to fit a square peg into a round hole. The reason SteamOS is this good is because it's tailored for Valve's hardware. It's not something that Valve could just copy over into a generic distro, or someone else could copy over from Valve's contributions. Even in this thread you have difference in opinions as to which distro should be used for gaming, because it'll always be a mess with Linux. Too many cooks spoiled the broth, but people want a perfect meal out of it.

In short: Linux will never be a viable drop-in replacement for Windows, and what Valve is doing with SteamOS is just making sure that you can pay for Steam games and play them on their hardware with their software with minimal issues. They're not trying to replace Windows, but every Dunning-Kruger idiot will run their mouth like they are.
 
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