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Slav Power said:
The big misunderstanding there is that while yes, if you use Steam hardware you're going to be using Linux, this won't apply to the hardware you already own that's running Windows, and this is what people are bitching about the most. They don't want to buy a new computer, they want their current fancy schmancy gaming rig to run something that's not Windows. With x86, the only option is Linux. But what GN is trying to do is to fit a square peg into a round hole. The reason SteamOS is this good is because it's tailored for Valve's hardware. It's not something that Valve could just copy over into a generic distro, or someone else could copy over from Valve's contributions. Even in this thread you have difference in opinions as to which distro should be used for gaming, because it'll always be a mess with Linux. Too many cooks spoiled the broth, but people want a perfect meal out of it.

In short: Linux will never be a viable drop-in replacement for Windows, and what Valve is doing with SteamOS is just making sure that you can pay for Steam games and play them on their hardware with their software with minimal issues. They're not trying to replace Windows, but every Dunning-Kruger idiot will run their mouth like they are.
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better go ahead and change your custom title to "I am a negative nancy" and be done with it
 
jeff7989 said:
Steve released Linux benchmarks, I'm disappointed that he listened to Wendell and used Bazzite because it uses Gayland, and it skews Nvidia results. Should have tested on Mint, it's not like Windows is immutable so why bother with troon distro?
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Immutable distros are troongems.
 
jeff7989 said:
Anything else?
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It comes pre-packaged with everything you'd "need" for "gaming", even though Windows using nigger cattle can't even reinstall Windows since booting from a USB drive is beyond their abilities. Of course they'll scoff at Mint, even though it comes with a GUI Nvidia driver installer as well as a GUI frontend for downloading software, from which you can easily install Steam to play games. It has to be a "gaming distro" or else it can't run games at all.

That's the mentality, and another reason why I despise the whole "ditch Windows for Linux because gaming is here" debacle. It's already here on the most normie friendly distro, but it's not enough and you need like four different flavors of immutable GNOME slop for these faggots, and even then they won't accept it because they need daddy GabeN to save their sorry asses with SteamOS that they demand to be another shitty generic distro that will randomly break on some specific hardware configuration.
 
Wodanaz said:
Which is the only way you are going to get an appreciable amount of end users to actually use linux. The only alternative is to just give up and never hope for anything.
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People use Linux all the time. It's on your wi-fi router. The kernel (and even parts of the toolchain) are on your Android phone. It's in your TV. It's probably in your refrigerator if you're a retard to gets Internet-of-trash shit and connect everything to Wi-Fi like a dumbfuck. It's not desktop Linux, but there's a kernel down there somewhere.

SteamOS is another one of those things now. It runs Linux, but no one knows or cares. Unlike the PS4 which runs small bits and pieces of FreeBSD glued back together into Sony firmware, there is an actual desktop you can see, which 60% of people will never use.

SteamOS will never be a Linux desktop really, but it'll probably be closer than anyone has gotten before ... and maybe a bunch of people will try Bazite on their existing rigs and 90% of them will stick their Windows SSD back in when their favorite slop title doesn't play.

But I do think Win11 might really move the needle. Probably not more than 2%~3% though. You have an old laptop that won't run Win 11? Most people will just keep Win 10 for years, but some will try Mint or something else. Everything is browser based today, and if you can maybe run some games on an old laptop too, well hey, it's not e-waste now.

I have my doubts any of these gaming distro will really take off (other than Steam hardware), but I don't think the shift will be insignificant this time either.
 
HootersMcBoobies said:
It's not desktop Linux, but there's a kernel down there somewhere.
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How about we stop with the whole "everything runs (the) Linux (kernel)" argument since you know very well it's disingenuous to make and whenever Linux is brought up in the context of a Windows alternative, we're talking about the entire ecosystem of packages composing a desktop environment under the Linux kernel, which is still years away from prime time? Espexially now that the Wayland issue is once again is showing up with KDE ditching X11?

Yeah, my router "runs Linux", but it's not like I can install Steam on it and use it as a Windows replacement. The only reason SteamOS is anywhere close is because Valve put in a ton of money and effort to tard wrangle this mess into a sellable product. The entire reason they made Proton was because Wine dev team was dragging their asses for years like every other FOSS project.

Stallman was right, it should be referred to as GNU/Linux to curb these semantics.
 
HootersMcBoobies said:
People use Linux all the time. It's on your wi-fi router.
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I specifically said "end users" to delineate between the typical computer user, and someone who is experienced with changing router settings around. Spoiler: most peoples routers are setup for them, by their ISP.
 
This argument is as old as time. Could be reading slashdot dot org from 2002 and it would look exactly the same.

Only difference is in 2025 I'm just buying games on steam on launch day without even looking at compatibility and they all work on Linux. So I don't know gang, seems like we've come a long way.

Or in other words, the haters spend more time spilling ink about Linux contrarians than I a lifetime Linux user do playing games. Interesting.
 
Slav Power said:
The big misunderstanding there is that while yes, if you use Steam hardware you're going to be using Linux, this won't apply to the hardware you already own that's running Windows, and this is what people are bitching about the most. They don't want to buy a new computer, they want their current fancy schmancy gaming rig to run something that's not Windows. With x86, the only option is Linux. But what GN is trying to do is to fit a square peg into a round hole. The reason SteamOS is this good is because it's tailored for Valve's hardware. It's not something that Valve could just copy over into a generic distro, or someone else could copy over from Valve's contributions. Even in this thread you have difference in opinions as to which distro should be used for gaming, because it'll always be a mess with Linux. Too many cooks spoiled the broth, but people want a perfect meal out of it.

In short: Linux will never be a viable drop-in replacement for Windows, and what Valve is doing with SteamOS is just making sure that you can pay for Steam games and play them on their hardware with their software with minimal issues. They're not trying to replace Windows, but every Dunning-Kruger idiot will run their mouth like they are.
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Your start menu is written in JavaScript.
 
Dead Lion said:
Your start menu is written in JavaScript.
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I don't have a start menu.
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Max Weber said:
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I don't even want to imagine what YT comments could possibly recommend in the context of Linux.
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I already know its Arch. Its always fucking Arch. May as well call it a cult.

On a smaller note, searching for an available Antec Flux Pro (particularly the black one) has been nothing short of agonizingly dogshit.
 
Slav Power said:
Except Valve isn't shilling Linux. They're shilling their hardware. That's the issue.

Not once do they explicitly tell you in their hardware marketing that it runs "Linux", but rather that it runs "SteamOS". They're treating it as their own thing, which admittedly it is, but retards do what retards do best and run their mouths about Gabe literally curb stomping Nadella like in American History X
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Except that Valve (via SteamOS) contributes to improve gaming on Linux in general and make it a viable alternative to Windows.
The Steam Machine is just a way to bring normalfags into the PC ecosystem.
 
Miller said:
Except that Valve (via SteamOS) contributes to improve gaming on Linux in general and make it a viable alternative to Windows.
The Steam Machine is just a way to bring normalfags into the PC ecosystem.
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What do you mean, it's not like you can use Wine, DXVK, VKD3D, Proton (through UMU), KDE, Mesa, or FEX without Steam. You SHILL!
 
Slav Power said:
Kinda redundant, the discussion is already about Linux.
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Arch nerds strike me as this specific brand of smug asshole that made up a vast majority of the baby boomers, the kind of person who has very strong opinions about what you should be doing but has no time for considering that your wants and needs are different from theirs.

my fucking mom used Ubuntu as her primary OS during the windows 8 era and I've dabbled in it a little on remote servers. I understand how it works but I'm not a power user. Somehow this is not enough to protect me from the psychic screeching of these people telling you to smugly install majaro if you cant handle REAL Linux (and lord have mercy if you need to ask any questions like 'why isnt apt installed')
 
Miller said:
Except that Valve (via SteamOS) contributes to improve gaming on Linux in general and make it a viable alternative to Windows.
The Steam Machine is just a way to bring normalfags into the PC ecosystem.
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the steam machine is more about the steam ecosystem than OS faggotry.

steam is pulling an apple and it's not even because of greed, it's because everything is so shit they might just do things by themselves and linux in comparison to windows is far easier to pick apart and rebuild the way you want, hence it's SteamOS using linux as a foundation, although the 8GB vram thing is iffy for me because i tried to run baldur's gayte 3 and it started up with vulkan as default, causing my shitty rx580 to crash every time until i went with DX because DX recognized the damn gpu only has 8GB of vram (:_(
 
big pauper said:
my fucking mom used Ubuntu as her primary OS during the windows 8 era
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Did she install it herself or did you do it for her? If she's still using it now, you might wanna keep an eye on it, as vanilla Ubuntu hasn't really been that great over the years with whatever bloat it keeps adding into it. I did the same thing with my mom on an older laptop that had 7, and then it started chugging along around the time Win10 was becoming the "new norm".

Might wanna suggest Lubuntu or Xubuntu if vanilla is giving her a hard time
 
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