General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Ralph Barnhardt]

Sweetest sheepie is mad.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

i hear kson is pushing for westernization of japanese vtuber culture. confirm /deny? She said that the jap cultural norm of obedience is super ungood!

 

[Sithis]

i hear kson is pushing for westernization of japanese vtuber culture. confirm /deny? She said that the jap cultural norm of obedience is super ungood!

I'm hoping there's just a lot of mistranslations, because from what I've seen she's conflating weebs with unicorns and shitting on them. Railing against the company that didn't help her when the west Taiwan bugmen came snipping is understandable but I didn't think she'd be retarded enough to shit on the people paying her bills.

 

[Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus]

Selen wanted to make a custom logo for their Tetris tournament which Sega initially agreed to but then rejected it and any alterations in favor of just using the game logo after she did the work. Just Sega being retarded.

 

[lakyus]

I'm hoping there's just a lot of mistranslations, because from what I've seen she's conflating weebs with unicorns and shitting on them. Railing against the company that didn't help her when the west Taiwan bugmen came snipping is understandable but I didn't think she'd be retarded enough to shit on the people paying her bills.

Kson doesn't really have unicorns. She is speaking of behalf on somebody else though (likely Kanata).

 

[oh no its pipkun]

I'm hoping there's just a lot of mistranslations, because from what I've seen she's conflating weebs with unicorns and shitting on them. Railing against the company that didn't help her when the west Taiwan bugmen came snipping is understandable but I didn't think she'd be retarded enough to shit on the people paying her bills.

I have high hopes that the twitch stream later is just as dumb as the translations i'm reading. I hope blackrock buys cover stocks and finagles its way to activist takeover.

 

[Sithis]

Kson doesn't really have unicorns. She is speaking of behalf on somebody else though (likely Kanata).

Well, she had Henri, for a while

 

[Steve Pinto]

Kson started a stream regarding some unspecified recent events. Some of it seems to be about Nazuna or Kanata's situation but the latter half seems to be more general about toxic company fanboyism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScVSeQ4UswY

Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: Lemme get to the point.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: And now I want you guys to listen.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: Up till now, I've used the term "weeb" in a good way.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: But lately, the manners of the weebs....
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: I want the Japanese people to hear this too.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: Basically, their manners have been taking a strange turn.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: I didn't realize it earlier because I'd been away from the culture for a while.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: Weebs are supposed to be people who adore Japan.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: But....
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: In VTuber culture, there's the concept of "gachikoi," or being really in love with the streamer, right?
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: And some people get angry about a streamer having a significant other.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: I have no problem at all with the gachikoi concept.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: That's not the issue.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: And fans supporting creators is great.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: I'm talking the "unicorn" troublemakers.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: The ones who flip out when they disagree with something.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: And now, it seems like the term "weeb" is referring to THOSE guys instead.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: I only learned this recently.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: Now, it seems like the more extreme someone is, the "cooler" they are.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: I don't mind it if fans dislike their favorite streamer having a significant other.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: The way they connect with creators is up to them.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: However, there are people saying things like, "I only support female creators who don't collab with guys. That's how weebs SHOULD be."
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: They spend all their energy in putting down female creators with even a hint of a guy in their life.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: It's getting to the point where those who cross the line are considered "real" weebs.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: They misunderstood that that is how they should act.

Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: That those who make their faves cry are the REAL fans.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: This is very bad.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: This is in fact terrible.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: And they consider those who don't share their views "not real weebs."
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: I love the attitude of, "All that matters is that the creator he/herself is happy."
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: Up to now, weebs have been people who don't really care who hangs out with who.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: Now, they're picking on those who interact with those who interact with those who interact with a guy.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: It's like picking on someone for their ex's ex's ex.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: I don't even get what they're fighting against.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: And now those people are supposedly "real" weebs.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: There used to be only a few bad apples.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: Now the general trend is heading that way.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: And some people who consider agency VTubers who obey their agency's orders without question "real" creators.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: And themselves, who support such creators, "real" weebs.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: That's so lame.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: I'm not pointing fingers at anyone in particular, of course.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: But as a result of the bad minority growing louder in Japan, it's clouding the overseas viewers' view.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: Can't we go back to when we just love VTubers in general, regardless of gender or even race.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: Personally, I'm popular with girls and have zero gachikoi.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: So I suppose no one would raise a fuss even if I got married www
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: Problem is, I don't have any specific ideas for what can be done.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: I only know that things are very wrong.

...

Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: For example, there are those who say, "Real Japanese don't assert their own views."
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: "Those who assert their own views aren't 'real' Japanese. They obey everything they're ordered."
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: "The girls who obey everything they're ordered without complaint are REAL Japanese."
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: "And those who support those who assert their own views aren't REAL weebs."
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: "Real VTubers should all be obedient. All the others are bitches. Harlots."
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: For some reason, creators like those are being propped up as model creators.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: It's basically turning into a cult.

...

Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: You're free to support those creators too, of course. Maybe that's what their character really is like in real life.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: I know my fans are different. You're basically handpicked.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: When I say something, you guys go, "Sure, sure. Take a seat, Souchou."
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Chat: It's the difference between following guidelines and being a slave.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: Yes! That's so true.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: And being a slave is NOT the most beautiful part of Japanese culture, guys.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: I'm trying SO hard to get rid of slavery, weebs.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: But if you're all into that slavery stuff, VTubing will be over in 5 years.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: Say goodbye to all your oshis.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: If it gets to where all the major VTubers are mere slaves, it's all over
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Chat: Would you get bashed for saying this?
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: Oh, I'm beyond caring about that.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: I'm just feeling alarmed at the current situation.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: Part of me feels like Japanese culture is being made light of, and it really rubs me the wrong way.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: So, I'm not telling you guys to not support those creators.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: I'm just saying, what's most important is the creators' own happiness.

...

Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Chat: They just want to say what they want using Japan as an excuse
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: Maybe.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: A perfectly obedient girl isn't true "seiso".
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: True "seiso" is someone who sticks to their beliefs and fights for them.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: Just clarifying, I have no issue whatsoever with agencies.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: They're businesses. They're meant to make money.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: But I don't like that people are saying those who strictly obey orders from above are being called real weebs.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Chat: Being popular means you're in the right
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: You're free to take that opinion.
Taishi Ch. 神代大使: [EN] Kson: What's "right" is for you to decide for yourself.

She's not railing against companies in general and I don't get how you can get that from listening to her. She's right that some japs will call others that don't dickride a corporation "un-japanese". It's super common in internet discourse but not everyone believes it.

 

[Cubanodun]

She's not railing against companies in general and I don't get how you can get that from listening to her. She's right that some japs will call others that don't dickride a corporation "un-japanese". It's super common in internet discourse but not everyone believes it.

Kill unicorns, behead unicorns, roundhouse unicorns into the fucking concrete, slam dunk unicorns into a trash can, crucify them with their computers, send unicorn to gulags, castrate unicorns

Also i see she keep being based by not giving a shit anymore, she is the Kson, the rest are plebs

 

[lakyus]

Amiya Aranha is very pleased with how her polymer clay buckos came out. There'll be a giveaway, too.

Sauce

 

[electrician's apprentice]

Tenma's longest recorded sentence

 

[Nolan Crush]

Reine talking about 4th FES

 

[Cubanodun]

Is hilarious that this was the illustration for Kobo new song



And the reactions are between IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME and her family on holo wanting to commit not-alive to the guy

 

[Avokado]

Is Kson still categorized as VTuber nowadays?
I don't watch her, but sometimes some clips of her pops up in my recommendation, and she is in the flesh, not behind avatar, in those clips most of the time.

 

[lakyus]

Not sure if you'll find it useful but here's all lines tagged as [EN] Kson from my JSON dump of her stream's livechat.

EDIT: Dump was incomplete, added complete one from freshly fetched data.
EDIT 2: Interesting, some translations were removed.

Spoiler

Live stream dump:

"[EN] Kson: I'm sorry if I'm kinda all over the place today."
"[EN] Kson: It's just that there are those around me who're in the thick of this
but can't speak out."
"[EN] Kson: So I asked if I could say it on their behalf, and they said yes."
"[EN] Kson: If you disagree with me, that's your prerogative."
"[EN] Kson: There are people who say, \"If the creator is at peace with it, then it's fine, right?\""
"[EN] Kson: But some really aren't."

Post-stream:

"[EN] Kson: I'm sorry if I'm kinda all over the place today."
"[EN] Kson: So I asked if I could say it on their behalf, and they said yes."
"[EN] Kson: If you disagree with me, that's your prerogative."
"[EN] Kson: There are people who say, \"If the creator is at peace with it, then it's fine, right?\""
"[EN] Kson: But some really aren't."

 

[LOWERCASE LETTERS]

Is Kson still categorized as VTuber nowadays?
I don't watch her, but sometimes some clips of her pops up in my recommendation, and she is in the flesh, not behind avatar, in those clips most of the time.

She blurs the content. Sometimes she streams live, sometimes with a vtuber avatar. This sort of mixed content is part of her brand.

 

[Undercover Commissioner]

Found this on the tva:
A new ai vtuber is on the block.

 

[Hijo de Dang Woodchucks!]

Kson: I'm talking the "unicorn" troublemakers.
The ones who flip out when they disagree with something.
And now, it seems like the term "weeb" is referring to THOSE guys instead.
I only learned this recently.
Now, it seems like the more extreme someone is, the "cooler" they are.

I don't know what drugs and/or mental gymnastics she had to engage in to reach that conclusion, but can someone tell her to not snort it anymore?

 

[lakyus]

I don't know what drugs and/or mental gymnastics she had to engage in to reach that conclusion, but can someone tell her to not snort it anymore?

No, I can understand kson's point. She's basically trying to say that the schizo behaviour of unicorns has become the norm "weebs" (presumably English listeners) aspire to.

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

No, I can understand kson's point. She's basically trying to say that the schizo behaviour of unicorns has become the norm "weebs" (presumably English listeners) aspire to.

I think she's pissed about what happened to Pikamee and doesn't really understand the kind of people that do that shit.