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seems like kson did a little too much doomscrolling. to me it seems she's mostly talking about that minecraft collab kanata was in. Kanata, La+, Pekora, Chloe and Botan all had scs turned off during the stream probably so nobody would send red supas complaining about collabing with guys. and I guess nijisanji? with her talking about slaves and not being obedient and people getting mad.. makes me think of the gundou situation. idk
 
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Coptakhenaten said:
I assume /vt/ is just being schitzo when it comes to Kson's most recent video? I know it's apparently about either Nazuna or Kanata, but I don't know anything beyond that. I just hope it doesn't hurt the relationships between any of the talents here.
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If there's one thing /v/trannies enjoy more than blacked cuckposting, it's schizoid sperging about non issues. Most of the board seems to take a lot of issues with her for getting notRushia to join VShojo.

I like kson despite her occasionally retarded choices, it's all a moot point in the end though she's still wealthier than most of her critics will ever be just from her job as Coco. I have to agree with the sentiment posted earlier though by @kestraline, she should stop pushing Pikamee to get in VShojo, that would be an awful mix and just bring Pikamee within range of the same types of axewounded twitter freaks that drove her away in the first place.
 
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kestraline said:
Regarding the kson shit, it angers me the most that people are begging kson to get Pikamee and Mirai Akari into VshojoJP.

That's literally the worst thing you could do to either of them, especially Pikamee considering their position on Wizard Game.
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If Vshojo JP was treated as a separate entity from Vshojo, i could see it working out in the long run for them, but realistically it would be better for her to stay low for a while and then hopefully get picked up by a bigger, more protective corporation.
 
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The threads about Kson's stream are a shitshow but here's one anon's interpretation that I found interesting
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kestraline said:
Regarding the kson shit, it angers me the most that people are begging kson to get Pikamee and Mirai Akari into VshojoJP.

That's literally the worst thing you could do to either of them, especially Pikamee considering their position on Wizard Game.

Anyway, enough about kson for a while, coconut tangent woman is live.
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Not quite that bad, JP rarely has anything to do with EN, at best Pikamee and Mirai will answer to Kson if shit hit the fan, but i dont think it will happen because Pikamee will not gain anything from moving from VOMS and Mirai beats by miles Kson on seniority

lakyus said:
The threads about Kson's stream are a shitshow but here's one anon's interpretation that I found interesting
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Phase connect is there to prove that anon wrong
 
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Cubanodun said:
Phase connect is there to prove that anon wrong
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not even PC, niji in JP itself, so I have zero clue what she's talking about really. kson HERSELF is hardly idol, and she knows she has a dedicated viewerbase.
I'd go as far and say the amount of "idol" vtubers is way smaller than the the non-ones, however you want to define it (nsfw etc.).

in the end there never will be a unified market with a single taste, there always will be people who want their vtuber to be seiso, to be family friendly, to be ranting half the time, to be vulgar etc.
even the argument "everyone will do what makes them the most money" doesn't hold up because that's not how the market works. if 90% of the viewerbase wants idol vtubers, if everybody does it the market becomes so saturated the individual gain will be miniscule and it will simply be more lucrative to say "fuck this, I'm one of the few catering to the other 10%"
 
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lakyus said:
The threads about Kson's stream are a shitshow but here's one anon's interpretation that I found interesting
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Creativity frequently does not equate to views. Things can be creative, but also boring for viewers.

Furthermore the death of vtuber creatvity is far more likely to come from the twitch thot vtuber culture than "idol" vtuber culture.

I can understand Kson disliking/being worried about how frequent and loud the unicorns can be, but one has to remember, even literal whores that stream get simps trying to get with them and be their only one, for some fucking reason. Unicorn simps are not unique to "idol" vtubers.
 
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Serbian Peacekeepers said:
If Vshojo JP was treated as a separate entity from Vshojo, i could see it working out in the long run for them, but realistically it would be better for her to stay low for a while and then hopefully get picked up by a bigger, more protective corporation.
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vshojo jp is still the safest option here if you ask me.

the 'bigger, more protective' options they have are njsj and hololive, each has its own advantages and disadvantages.

> mirai akari can reincarnate in njsj and do the creative unhinged shenanigans she was known for in the past, with financial and resource backing of enikara at her disposal. trouble is that if you go through jp, you go through the vta. if scouters think her several year experience is already enough, she would likely pull a solo debut like salome that may bring unwanted attention about unfairness in enkr.
> her joining hololive may help her music side of chuuba a lot but we all know about the strictness of hololive nowadays despite their unhingeness sometimes and retiring at one company due to their strictness and debuting at another? doubt it.

> pikamee can reunite with her old time chuuba buddies at njsj, giving her the friend and collab support she needs. but that can also reinforce the current njsj en clique narrative.
> pikamee may be close to other hololive chuubas but i dont see her as a regular singer or dancer, knowing the eventual developmental process of a hololive idol chuuba.
 
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SY12 said:
vshojo jp is still the safest option here if you ask me.
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While i agree with your points, i still feel like we can't get over the fact its Vshojo, now to their credit the JP side seems pretty devoid of drama unlike the English side, but it still does matter that when push comes to shove there seems to be no real loyalty between some of the members, and if another Hogwarts drama ever hits it will likely be a lone talent against the world. In the end Pikamee will go where she goes, and if she joins Vshojo and Ksons harem, becomes a Nijier, or is added to HoloEN gen 5, she will probably be ok, i just don't think Vshojo is a good choice, but it might be the best choice.
 
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