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Well the hypothetical situation is one where them being a vtuber is no longer tenable. Seems unlikely now but larger content creators and trends have come and gone during Youtube's lifetime. In my eyes the two most likely scenarios would be the lower end falling out of range of financial viability, and an idols voice being permanently damage to the point where they can't stream with it. In the former scenario a VA gig could happen if Cover has the right connections, in the latter I could see them assuming a talent management role if they still needed the work. I suppose there are also members with the skill to become Vtuber models, but I don't really seeing any of them being in a situation where they couldn't pursue a career without Cover's help.


I mean obviously we are all in our armchairs when it comes to estimating their income, so everything I say is just a guess. That being said I wouldn't really put much stock in them getting a lot of money from merch, selling a product is always gonna be far behind getting given free money, especially if we equate it to a year of Kson if she remains consistent or grows. Not to mention that Kson can sell merch too. The sponsorships I think would vary a lot depending where it is coming from. My guess would be that when it comes to the mainstream normie product stuff they may not actually be getting a huge pay out, even if they barely got anything you could make an argument that stuff like the AkuShubaPeko ramen sponsorship are still worth it because of the exposure and the way it legitimises Hololive as a brand. On the other side of things I could see them making bank on getting paid to play shitty mobile games and shovelware, but again this is another thing Kson can do is so inclined.

So in the end the only advantage I see the Hololive girls having is the salary and mainstream sponsorship. I think it is also fair to say that Kson has an advantage over them when it comes to game sponsorships and merch deals because she gets the full sum and doesn't have to give Cover a cut.
Kson will have 100% of her merch but she needs to pay for those first before they get produce no?

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Hololive is getting collab with some mobile game like idolmaster. Collab merch for baseball and JRA x Hololive IMG_20211026_024147.jpg

Also aqua got a horse cup named after her. Not to mention those cards that has been selling like hot cakes and their plush of don quixote.

Horse race & baseball are both huge in japan.
 
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"HoloEN monopoly" u gotta be kidding right?? niji have HUNDRED of vtuber,their EN have how many now with 3 wave in a short time,all of them are previous vtuber with their own fanbase,holo?? Ina(not a vtuber),kiara(idol that no one know),holo myth??

its clear that you are real hardcore "Nijifag" which many ppl who have to deal with niji fandom before knew how dumb and autistic ppl like u can be,but seriously for a rrats that not even confirmed and u bring bullshit holo want to monopolize??

if its because of that dumb shitty NijiEN nina/monkeyism then cover have a good reason to ban collab with them and everyone with a right mindset(except a dumb nijifag like u ofc) will agree with that,i mean why they want to collab with agency where their vtuber talk shit about coco? and make false rrats about "management" to coco,its make sense to deny collab,but ofc,again no one knows,probably the main reason is just schedule,but nope,u being a classic "dumb nijifag" is something that is not surprising at all.

"Holo wont give exposure",oh really why should they? and why dont u work ur ass up to give exposure to ur beloved niji vtuber?? because everyone knew,those holo fans and clickbait clipper are the main reason holo got so much exposure,now time for u to work then rather than "muh holo/cover didnt give exposure,its their fault",what a dumb nijifag.

You are insanely stupid. Lurk for a hundred years.
 
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@Scuttle This true?
EDIT: Kiara says it but does not outright confirm if it's Pomu
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Edit: I want to say this: So what, does this mean that Holo EN can't even collab with anyone from Niji EN at all but Holo JP and Niji JP can collab just fine? This is kinda disappointing IMHO.
All things considered on this debate that came up, I think the simplest explanation is Niji has significantly more to gain than Holo doing a collab, so it's most likely Holo management being protectionist/bunch of faggots yet again. A Kiara/Pomu collab would be amazing content, and I'm sad it's being denied to us.


For any who missed it, the last Jump King stream ended up with her bullshitting with Bae and IRyS about anime and other stuff, and was one of the best streams Calli's ever done once that started. Expect the sequel on the 29th to be in the same vein and worth a watch.

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I feel like there are two "that one death" on that movie. Unwrapping the human or the barbed wire colonoscopy?
Looks like that screenshot was from the "unwrapping" death. Even Calli was horrified (well, laughing while horrified) by the barbed wire. I didn't catch Ina's reaction to the latter because her movie was a good 20-30 seconds ahead of Calli's at that point but she hadn't noticed yet.

If they're so deadset on "not letting anyone find out about nijiEN (which is also laughable to think that Hololive could somehow keep NijiEN a secret from people) than surely they'd tell the chicken to shut the fuck up about them on twitter too doncha think?
It's possible that the employment contract makes actual streaming collabs and Twitter interactions two very different things. I could believe that IF Kiara was barred from collabing with Pomu, she still could and absolutely would tell management to fuck off about them tweeting at each other. But I'm not saying she was barred, I have no opinion on the matter other than that I'd like to see Kiara and Pomu collab.

It's cute, not sure about how long the legs are myself, but then again its not like you see them that often anyways.
Chopstick legs, like Kronii's. I don't understand the appeal.

>Subscription only mode
This is the first time I have seen anyone turning on this, its usually free or members, never middle ground.
I wonder why
I've seen it quite a bit actually, just had Luna's electone stream on one monitor while catching up on archives and she had subscription-only mode too. I think Pochi-sensei has it a lot. Sometimes it doesn't tell you with the popup, but if it says "Chat publicly as..." then that's subscription mode.
It's probably not very effective without active moderators to back it up, but I don't really see a downside either.

Marine is the kind of horny where she's openly needy but too modest to make any actual advances. Makes her thirst more endearing. Kiara is much more pushy and a bit of a disaster lesbian but won't really try anything. Matsuri is just straight up a predator and a sexual harassment scandal waiting to happen. Several of the girls have talked about her creepy, unsolicited touching and such which is why I generally don't like her and refuse to watch her.
Pretty sure there have been stories about Marine touching other girls without permission, it just doesn't tend to come across in a bad light. Maybe I'm just biased or high on copium, but I get the impression that Marine has the sense to understand who's going to be ok with what. Also, for both Matsuri and Marine, we don't know how much (if any) the stories have been embellished for kayfabe.
 
Pretty sure there have been stories about Marine touching other girls without permission, it just doesn't tend to come across in a bad light. Maybe I'm just biased or high on copium, but I get the impression that Marine has the sense to understand who's going to be ok with what. Also, for both Matsuri and Marine, we don't know how much (if any) the stories have been embellished for kayfabe.
Nene had a bit about sekuhara in HL that boiled down to "Marine knows where the boundaries are and won't cross them, Aki just makes jokes like an old man, but Matsuri is actually serious."
 
"HoloEN monopoly" u gotta be kidding right?? niji have HUNDRED of vtuber,their EN have how many now with 3 wave in a short time,all of them are previous vtuber with their own fanbase,holo?? Ina(not a vtuber),kiara(idol that no one know),holo myth??

its clear that you are real hardcore "Nijifag" which many ppl who have to deal with niji fandom before knew how dumb and autistic ppl like u can be,but seriously for a rrats that not even confirmed and u bring bullshit holo want to monopolize??

if its because of that dumb shitty NijiEN nina/monkeyism then cover have a good reason to ban collab with them and everyone with a right mindset(except a dumb nijifag like u ofc) will agree with that,i mean why they want to collab with agency where their vtuber talk shit about coco? and make false rrats about "management" to coco,its make sense to deny collab,but ofc,again no one knows,probably the main reason is just schedule,but nope,u being a classic "dumb nijifag" is something that is not surprising at all.

"Holo wont give exposure",oh really why should they? and why dont u work ur ass up to give exposure to ur beloved niji vtuber?? because everyone knew,those holo fans and clickbait clipper are the main reason holo got so much exposure,now time for u to work then rather than "muh holo/cover didnt give exposure,its their fault",what a dumb nijifag.
I say this without an ounce of sarcasm nor irony.
Take your fucking meds.
 
Yo guys, ignore the schizo and check YuniLuna's Twitter. She's been putting vids on this new model she's got. I like the moth elements and the color choice, it even has a cat ears mode. For us who enjoyed Cope Cat.

Pretty sure there have been stories about Marine touching other girls without permission
No, she can be very up front about wanting to make friends and talk to people, which can be over powering, for example Ayame. The person that will sexually harass you is unironically Matsuri. It's been rrated so long that it goes back to /hlg/ on /jp/ that Matsuri scares away any Hololive collabs. There was even a clip where it was I believe Matsuri recalling that someone warned gen 2 about how handsy she can be.

It doesn't help that Matsuri's an actual menhera, with equally crazy fans and is really easy to poke fun at.
 
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The issue with an FGO or Genshin style game is that it would pit the members against each other in a kind of ranking. Is Suisei an SSR and Matsuri only an SR? Who's just an R? Dividing up the members based on rarity would be seen as saying some are better and more valuable than others, and that would anger a lot of fans.

I'm sure a gacha thing could be done, but it'd have to be done carefully.
They could just do the same thing with Love Live gacha with limited arts edition get GSSR status and allow character had certain skills and perks in game play. They only need to not make the game suffer powercreep problem.

I think Hololive rhymes game + gacha is the way to go. They have enough original music for all members for it to work.
 


But how many pages would be left in this thread if mods deleted all posts made by extremely autistic/introvert people?
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As for the upcoming drive-bys and tourists: worry not, this is gonna keep on slowing down with the coof restrictions lifting and us going back to our miserable wagecucking.

I am already feeling that: gym is open, language schools are open, I don't have time to watch full streams and I don't watch many clips. I'm trying to keep up with this thread, but even this is kinda hard now. But putting VODs with singing/chatting in the background is something I can still do.


think PS1 or N64 graphics

Very interesting idea, I hope the personality follows. I am hoping for some PS1/N64 games.



Tenma's been streaming the last four hours playing League of Legends. The origin story of how she learned English was watching her favorite movie Die Hard for three months without subtitles and using a dictionary to understand it. One hell of an origin story.

J: How many times have you watched Died Hard?
T: 3 months

I guess weebs have no excuse for not knowing Japanese lmao.

In all seriousness, if you don't know the basics of the language (especially one as different from English as Japanese is), you most likely won't get far with watching only anime. You need to know some grammar and other basics (and Tenma for sure had some English in school - English learning in Japan sucks hard, as barely any JP native vtuber can communicate fluently, with some notable exceptions, but at least will show you the basics) to get the ball rolling. After figuring out the general ideas you can (and should) read, listen and possibly speak Japanese as much as you can to have some results, unless you are some kind of language learning prodigy (or a small child).


Great. Scuttle get to be Hana's dad and Burnt Fish got to be Kiara's mom, and I'm stuck here being Nolan's dad.

I think @agility_ is Kiara herself.

Pretty sure there have been stories about Marine touching other girls without permission, it just doesn't tend to come across in a bad light.

I think what you said can be visualised by this popular animation perfectly:

 
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