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Idk why Holo is even tryna compete with the Niji's on the male market tbh, to me it just seems like that would only work if they became the exact same as niji and that would only mean always being worse off since niji already controls that market, if i was holo i would have gone in a different direction and improved on the things people already love about it, instead of trying to chase the same market as the niji's, which is mainly composed of chinks, which already fucking hate holo. but i guess we will see.
 
The English fanbase would have not had anywhere near the same self-control as the JP fans and Chinese nationalists are already stupidly sensitive to slights from Americans in particular.
Yes it's true. There was even that whole thing about Ina not drawing Coco (with a mutual understanding) so she could not be implicated and maintain her job with Chinese mobile game companies.

HoloMyth were brand new at the time of the incident. Even if most of them were prepared to face the chink spam head-on, it's in Cover's best interests to overrule any collabs and protect the stability of the new branch.
My hatred for the yellow menace is rising as I read your replies, so I guess that means Cover was actually right then? Although paradoxically, if I had still gotten the reddit dragon collabs, I wouldn't hate them right now...
Idk why Holo is even tryna compete with the Niji's on the male market tbh, to me it just seems like that would only work if they became the exact same as niji and that would only mean always being worse off since niji already controls that market, if i was holo i would have gone in a different direction and improved on the things people already love about it, instead of trying to chase the same market as the niji's, which is mainly composed of chinks, which already fucking hate holo. but i guess we will see.
If Cover had that mindset a few years ago, they would've already closed up shop. You don't just give up on a particular market just because someone else is currently leading you.
 
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Idk why Holo is even tryna compete with the Niji's on the male market tbh, to me it just seems like that would only work if they became the exact same as niji and that would only mean always being worse off since niji already controls that market, if i was holo i would have gone in a different direction and improved on the things people already love about it, instead of trying to chase the same market as the niji's, which is mainly composed of chinks, which already fucking hate holo. but i guess we will see.
Idk why niji is even tryna compete with the Holo's on the female market tbh, to me it just seems like that would only work if they became the exact same as holo and that would only mean always being worse off since holo already controls that market, if i was niji i would have gone in a different direction and improved on the things people already love about it, instead of trying to chase the same market as the holo's,
which is mainly composed of weebs, which already fucking hate niji. but i guess we will see.
 
Does the rest of the NijiBoys get that much chinks as their main audience or whales?, evertyime i see rrats or them being retarded in regards to them its always around Vox's chink fanbase

Vox and Mysta definitely get the most. Luca also gets a bunch, but not as many as those two.

It seems like Ike and Shu aren't as prominent, just from a glance. I have no clue about Noctyx so far, since I've only really watched Yugo.
 
My hatred for the yellow menace is rising as I read your replies, so I guess that means Cover was actually right then? Although paradoxically, if I had still gotten the reddit dragon collabs, I wouldn't hate them right now...
I think it's less about 'right' and 'wrong' and more about risk assessment. Cover had the option of appeasing western fans by letting Coco at HoloEN, but risk the chinks blowing up a lightning in a bottle opportunity, or upsetting the western fans (until their attention span short circuits and they completely forget) and keep EN well away from the poisoned member.

People can argue forever about what they should have done, but the reality is that they chose the option where Coco didn't ever really get to meet them and that's just how it is.

Does the rest of the NijiBoys get that much chinks as their main audience or whales?, evertyime i see rrats or them being retarded in regards to them its always around Vox's chink fanbase
If by the 'rest' you're specifically referring to EN, then...kinda? All of Luxiem certainly do to varying degrees, but Noctyx seem to have attracted a higher influx of Western fujos at the cost of a smaller chink fanbase. Yugo has a big Japanese base for obvious reasons, but a lot of the Noctyx fanart and discourse I see is largely coming from Westerners.

The latter part is strictly anecdotal, of course. If you want preliminary numbers of their first 3 weeks:
Fulgur Ovid - $20K
Alban Knox - $28K
Yugo Asuma* - $18K
Sonny Brisko - $27K
Uki Violeta - $23K

* = Yugo went on hiatus half way through his second streaming week, meaning he missed a week + the cancelled streams.

Noctyx have enjoyed much less Chinese interference in exchange for slightly lower ccv and less SCs. There doesn't seem to be all that much overlap between Luxiem and Noctyx regular viewers.
 
Idk why Holo is even tryna compete with the Niji's on the male market tbh, to me it just seems like that would only work if they became the exact same as niji and that would only mean always being worse off since niji already controls that market, if i was holo i would have gone in a different direction and improved on the things people already love about it, instead of trying to chase the same market as the niji's, which is mainly composed of chinks, which already fucking hate holo. but i guess we will see.
Idk why Holo and Niji is even tryna compete with Kizuna Ai's on the Vtuber market tbh, to me it just seems like that would only work if they became the exact same as Kizuna Ai and that would only mean always being worse off since Kizuna Ai already controls that market, if I was Yagoo or Riku i would have gone in a different direction and improved on things people already love about it, instead of trying to chase the same market as Kizuna Ai, which is mainly composed of chinks, which already hate Holo and Nijis. but i guess we will see
 
I dont really get why she covers up so much in these videos yet shows her face on stream.
That's just how she dresses in public.
I think she just likes the mask plus japan most wear masks even pre covid
Did anyone actually try to figure out what aspect of Ouroboros' lyrics it was that Calli intended to be a hint of her future? Or are we just ignoring it because it's Calli?
My guess based on the lyric of going down a road "new yet familiar" is shes planning a tour like IIRC she did with Fake Type as DD
Can we talk about that? I can't understand what the ever loving fuck happened in that regard. There were some JP streams but not any with Coco until the end. Was it really Cover trying to quarantine the chink attractor from them? I will never forgive the Japanese if that's the case.
Cover and Coco wanted to quarantine the chinks while they worked to get rid of the spam tho some of the chad JP girls just said fuck it and collabbed anyway chinks be damned

it was heavily implied management was especially wary of allowing them to spread to EN so they likely put a 100% stop on any collabs with them until Coco decided to quit and likely requested she be able to as a farewell gift either that or Cover did it in hopes she would change her mind
 
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Kanata's throat still sucks, so she won't be streaming until April, except for March 27 where she has a scheduled shill stream
 
Original song coming from Fauna in late April. Being made with Shibayan Records.

Pretty surprising, didn't expect her to go for an original song so soon considering she isn't the best singer. Good luck to her, hope it turns out well.
If Choco and Noel can pull it off than Fauna can it too
Koyori's birthday is over but she has some stories:
YAGOO's house of broken girls once more

This is nice: Kagage-sensei, Izumi-sensei (Lui's and Mio's illustrators) and Kurose-sensei (HoloAlt illustrator and Goblin Slayer creator) visited the Holo Expo and made EMA boards
 
I know how people appreciate the deep lore of the Myth girls, with what little we can find. This image stumbled upon my timeline last night, and a bit of an info dump followed in the comments that I was not expecting.
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Which had this follow up tweet -
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The thread that followed was really interesting. I'll copy paste the contents below.
@cosmic_overseer
If you want some further context: She is one of the very first western vtubers to ever make content and innovate on it. She was seen and acted as this reliable and kind leader that kickstarted the backbone of the EN community collabing with people and helping some with the tech.
Thing is, as many people as she inspired to pick up the medium and helped into roles of modest relevance as streamers. She really didn't accumulate as much success due to the inconsistency of only having time for it outside of her job and helping at home as well.
People took advantage of her immense kindness as much as there were those that genuinely looked up to her and befriend her. She really wasn't part of any big group or stuff like that due to her own desire of not compromising her creative freedom and the mentioned circumstances.
Everything came crashing down eventually after her grandmother died tho. Those that called themselves her friends and loved ones never supported her in any way past cheap pitying lip service, never made her feel integrated into things, and she entered into a big arc of depression
She quit her other job and started using streaming equally as this passion and as a coping mechanism she wanted to turn into something greater. She devoted herself to create a lot of unique and engaging content more than ever before and held onto it for some time.
Situation became starker when her hard work wasn't paying off as well as she wanted, the pandemic had hit and she tried to hold onto things with a smile and her stubbornness, thinking about ultimately going out with a bang from the medium giving it her all til the end of the year
Her plan was to transition into studying, to become a full time paramedic, retiring from streaming to better support her family and herself by the end of that year. The Holo audition acceptance changed the course of history for her like nothing else.
She became more reserved, more socially awkward than she was before and rather unhealthy in the sense of eating less and not taking good care of herself in the aftermath of her hikkikomori depressive phase but managed to pull through thanks to that glimmer of light.
She made some real friends, got her shit together as she said herself in terms of life habits, put into practice her work ethic and professionalism from past experiences, got a more cynical outlook on people, but stayed positive, stayed altruistic and committed to her family.
Hence, her loyalty to Hololive is almost unmatched, she is a Jack of All Trades with varying degrees of expertise in anything related to graphic design, edition and streaming software, she is a very humble and down to earth person, and Myth is really close and dear to her heart.
Some of it, she has disclosed on stream actually, like the part of retiring to become an EMT-3 professional, losing someone very important in her life to the point of making her fall into profuse depression and shut-in tendencies. But I won't lie that research plays a part.

I hadn't realized she'd been this early in the indie vTuber scene, but checking on some other websites seems to corroborate this info:
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https://hub.vroid.com/en/characters/136190334499170009/models/1937670498145490257 - https://archive.ph/5Uimz

Gotta say, what tidbits we've had for Watson's past, I already had an immense amount of respect for her. But with this new infodump, it does fill in a bunch of holes that I'm not sure have been mentioned around here. So enjoy that fellow TeaMates.

Moona is 1 hour and 40 minutes into her 100 songs. 19.6K watching.

She's interspacing live singing with pre-recorded song segments in order to give herself some time to have a break and rest up. REALLY goddamn smart Moona.


Also, because we all love Mori being an absolute limit pushing goblin:
 
I however predict HomoEN to be a carbon copy of HomoJP with some members sporadically collabing with Holos but the two branches existing largely separately.
HomoEN will be a repeat of EN1 but in worse because they dont have to much of a base to hold off, unless they put some impressive person that was not snagged by Niji i dont see this changing

I would be hugely impressed by the balls of Cover to shitcan the segregation for EN and risk irreparably altering the culture of the branch.
Considering the rrats about the timing of the announcement that they wanted them after the success of Luxiem/Noctis they should just give them the GPB perks and let them collab with their sisters on occasions but dont expect they bantering like Niji does with they collabing out of nowhere and sharing a discord
Think we might have a new DD Sydsnap collab coming

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iirc Syd dragged her to a Neko maid cafe and she just went because reasons
Idk why Holo is even tryna compete with the Niji's on the male market tbh
Red man is beating the crap out of Chloe in SC earnings
How do Vox and Mysta compare to Kuzuha in terms of simpchats.
iirc both were in the top 10 of SC earners in february
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Kanata's throat still sucks, so she won't be streaming until April, except for March 27 where she has a scheduled shill stream
rrat: her throat doesnt work after sucking the Cocock :smug:
 
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