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I doubt vtubing as a mode of presentation is ever going to totally go away. The concept is too basic and well-suited to the medium.
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Speaking of, haven't seen Artemis recommended recently.Tranny sharks
It's almost as if speaking and appealing to the largest market on the internet would translate to bigger number of subscribers!It's good for Cover's pockets but I feel bad for some of the JP girls who struggle to hit numbers even a third of that.
Gura has her large Senzawa audience from before that mostly seems to have migrated and is picking up that mainstream Twitch appeal because she has experience in that area, and more importantly, speaks English. I wonder if it will push more of the JP talents to engage more heartily with the western market seeing those numbers.
I saw a thumbnail for "Artemis and Bao Play Connect Four," which I presume is trying to play off of Gura and Ame's A Way Out run.Speaking of, haven't seen Artemis recommended recently.
But m-muh JP streamer culture! Twitch streamer culture is t-toxic and annoying!It's almost as if speaking and appealing to the largest market on the internet would translate to bigger number of subscribers!
The key is balancing the two, retaining your soul while still making a profit out of it (if you want to make money). Quality doesn't sell, and after a certain point you need to sacrifice quality for numbers. It's a balancing act.But m-muh JP streamer culture! Twitch streamer culture is t-toxic and annoying!
I'm all for doing your own thing irrespective of, or downright in spite of, what works for analytics and capitalizing on viewership, but, from a purely business standpoint, what works for a target demographic, works. Adapt and thrive is the name of the game.
This faggot tried to off a chuuba for tracing art and bragged about getting them to Private, then tries to ride the Vtuber wave. Zero shame fuckhead, hope his debut crashes and burns.
You will never "retain your soul", as it were, if you ever decide to go full on sellout. Even at that, you will always be sacrificing some core part of who you are for as long as you stay in the game, because that's just the nature of the beast we know as "show business". I've said this a number of times already ITT but I'll repeat it once again: If you make a career out of something traditionally "fun", it will eventually stop being "fun" for you since you've effectively turned a pastime into a full time job.The key is balancing the two, retaining your soul while still making a profit out of it (if you want to make money). Quality doesn't sell, and after a certain point you need to sacrifice quality for numbers. It's a balancing act.
Only an idiot would admit to being a chuuba on the chuuba thread on kiwifarms.There aren't that many regular posters here, most people are just tourists. 4 out of like 15 active chuubas is a fair number. Myself and Tired Chuuba are the only two I can actually think of who bridge that gap but I do recall other people saying they wanted to get into it.
I don't know about "hackers-on-steroids" like "oldschool" 4chan, but the internet at large does tend to see KF as a den of bigoted cyberbullies and doxxers who are the scum of the earth. And considering how someone like the Salty boy has previously expressed a lack of concern with his ties to the Farms being openly acknowledged, not to mention the fact that he's left some breadcrumbs to identify his public presence outside the Farms, it would be ridiculously easy for any marginally dedicated sperg to find out those ties, trace them back to here, and throw him under the bus, thereby completely invalidating all of his social credibility in the eyes of, say, Domo's ratking.Only an idiot would admit to being a chuuba on the chuuba thread on kiwifarms.
There are a lot of people lurking this thread. Narratives posted here get disseminated really quick because outsiders see KF as hackers-on-steroids.
It's almost as if speaking and appealing to the largest market on the internet would translate to bigger number of subscribers!
The problem, however, is that subs count in the end meant jack shit when your regular view and/or live viewers count is abyssmal. I think it was Hachaama herself who said that for vtubers, it's much more important to have lots of live viewers than subs countBut m-muh JP streamer culture! Twitch streamer culture is t-toxic and annoying!
I'm all for doing your own thing irrespective of, or downright in spite of, what works for analytics and capitalizing on viewership, but, from a purely business standpoint, what works for a target demographic, works. Adapt and thrive is the name of the game.
Yeah, retention is the name of the game.The problem, however, is that subs count in the end meant jack shit when your regular view and/or live viewers count is abyssmal. I think it was Hachaama herself who said that for vtubers, it's much more important to have lots of live viewers than subs count
The problem, however, is that subs count in the end meant jack shit when your regular view and/or live viewers count is abyssmal. I think it was Hachaama herself who said that for vtubers, it's much more important to have lots of live viewers than subs count
In that case, I'd say Gura's still doing fairly well for herself since her analytics are nothing to sneeze at most of the time.Yeah, retention is the name of the game.
Doesnt matter how much subs you have if you only get a small portion of the subs to click your videos.
Idea: Make aHololive kneels to the egg headed man
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Coco made $50k superchats in two days. Rushia consistently rakes in $5k to $10k every stream. For perspective, Korone averages at $1k to $2k despite having double the live viewers. Live viewers isn't the most important stat for financial success on YouTube, demographics are. Only a small slice of live viewers will ever spend money on membership or superchat.
Also, memberships are basically locked in viewers and are probably the most important number to chuubas.
For an example of a small time chuuba with a low subcount (4.6k) but high earnings and high membership proportion, see Aoi Sakura. Her earnings are respectable despite her archives being under 10k views.
edit: removed the superchat part