General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

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This thread is actually the only place on the internet where certain obscure (by western internet standards) incidents and happenings are recorded in english. Some information posted here by Chinese speaking friends monitoring NGA during the Sino-Holo wars turned out to be accurate and very useful later on. There are at least a couple jap speakers who keep up to date with the japanese net scene and this thread has written very good rundowns on topics and incidents like Sio Kusunoki's cancellation, Game-Bu dissolution, NGA gay-ops, Kiara stalker guy, Mano Aloe/Deruta fanbox, Domo cabal, ect. For many of these, no english record even exists outside of this thread.

I'm trying to think of more posts here that are worth archiving.
There's some diamonds in the rough of this thread, I agree wholeheartedly.

My personal, recent exception is that there's way too much "rough" lately, though.

EDIT: I also wish you fags would really lay off the whole "Let's make a super seekrit Discord or some other board" faggotry as a contingency in case this thread does get shitcanned for real. It's more than likely it'll just get locked and moved to one of the dead thread subforums, so it's not necessarily as though the actual, valuable information ITT will be lost for good. It'll just be that people won't be able to add onto what's already here.
 
Lumi is a vtuber who's model and stuff is paid for by merryweather, but not merryweathers actual account. The account made a minor splash when it launched but got overshadowed by holo en.
It's just merryweather following every anime trend like normal.
Also pretty sure that's a girl voice actor. Merryweather would have them play it up if it was a guy, he loves the trap joke.
Edit: a typo
 
Reddit is shit. 4chan can be fun but gives a migraine. Twitter is hell. You do the math.

You shouldn't be worried about us, honestly (most of us). We're not trying to fuck shit up or anything.

it's the same parasocial appeal that all internet famous individuals, especially streamers, have just with an anime girl (or guy) instead. Playing games, talking with chat about what's on their mind or going on in their life. It's obviously gotten popular cause of the pandemic keeping people inside and anime being a huge part of internet "culture"; the perfect storm. I get that you're worried and skeptical because of past experiences, but if we haven't fucked up so far then why would we ruin what we have now?
Oh come on, what do I really do besides occasionally having unpopular opinions and saying nice things about the VShojo girls? Seems like I missed one hell of a wild ride in the last few hours though.
 
Man, I step away for a day and this entire thread is sinking like the Titanic because Null hates anime. So what's gonna happen exactly?
Now? Probably not much more unless the thread has a collective meltdown. We’ve been moved from multimedia to community watch and that’s about it. Unless Null decides he hasn’t had enough of his anime hate boner we should be fine.
 
Basically. What is the point of this? The only vtuber shit I see is like porn, that shark girl talking like a child, women spazzing out over fucking 5 year olds. When I come to ask about it everyone becomes VERY defensive, starts telling me to eat shit and die, calling me a pedophile, accusing me of watching this shit, dropping the word "cunny". I feel like a dad that just walked into his son's room and he's in there with 5 other dudes beating off to a JC Penny's catalog.

Going to throw my hat into the ring here as a pseudo-impartial observer. People are getting defensive because they aren't sure why you're asking. You have a reputation for being mercurial and making snap decisions. Whether that's warranted or not, I personally can't say, as I keep my head down and don't engage with forum drama much. But your tone was very adversarial and came across as a preemptive judgement, so people assumed they didn't have a choice in the matter and wanted to spend their last moments of freedom spitting at the figure that took away their fun.

What I think you need to understand is that vtubing is like any big growth industry at the moment. Lots and lots of people are jumping on the bandwagon and trying to carve out their own niches. However, the industry only became as popular as it is because of a core of large studios who hired talented, professional individuals able to both gather and retain an audience. A majority of significant vtubers are professionals who abide by strict contracts and are required to maintain standards of conduct that explicitly exclude anything to do with lolicon or pedobait. The independent scene is much newer and much less regulated, for obvious reasons.

Of course there's going to be vtubers out there who focus more on the lewd side of things. Just like there are comedians whose careers are defined by sex jokes and edgy comedy skits about hookers, dead babies, and dead baby hookers. This is an entirely open medium; there's free software out there that lets you rig up a 3D model within a few hours, or a few days if you're a complete amateur.

If nothing else, think of it like this; every year (until 'rona anyway) there were blockbuster movies being produced. A big focus of these movies is on beautiful, professional, heavily made-up stars doing cool and sometimes provocative things. Even a family-friendly movie like Avengers had Black Widow strutting around in a skin-tight suit and being tied up in a warehouse by greasy crooks. Given that, there was simultaneously a shadow-industry producing low-budget knock-offs of these movies, explicitly trying to ride the coat-tails of success by being cruder, lewder and as disingenuous as possible. Then, a step below that, you got porn parodies, which make bank entirely on taking the suggestive but contextual-in-the-greater-experience parts of blockbusters and turning them into an extreme focus for the entire production.

In this analogy, Hololive, Nijisan and the other big vtuber operations that comprise more than 95% of the vtuber market are the blockbusters. The independents are the shadow-industry (though some are legitimately talented), and the porn parodies are the degenerates just riding the trend for attention. I'll be frank and say this; I would have no problem whatsoever letting my children watch the average corporate vtuber. There are a few who are more explicit than others that I wouldn't let a kid watch, but vtubers like Korone, Okayu, Pekora, Kanata, Botan, Pikamee, etc... it's actually laughable to me that anyone would find them objectionable. They're no more worrisome than the little bits of adult humor you'd get in a dubbed episode of Digimon or Dragon Ball Z.

Anyway, it's late and I fear I'm becoming more incoherent as time goes by. Hopefully this is informative in some capacity.

Edit: One more small point; you're heavily steeped in the degenerate parts of the internet to begin with. I commonly get a very... 'Rorschach' feeling from you. Since you immerse yourself so deeply and so constantly into the most negative and perverse elements of every movement or trend you encounter, you're much more likely to instantly zero in on the darkest aspects of anything new you encounter which would completely fly over the heads of somebody who is more casually engaged. Please don't apply that to everything.
 
People asking for vtuber dox is even more retarded than normal eceleb dox because it's usually even less rewarding. You're pretty much either going to find a depressed weeb chick who never made it past the harry potter phase of high school or some dude with a voice changer. The actual cows that are worth bothering with are few and far between. And for a lot of them it's not as hard as you'd think lol I came across Momo's irl stuff one night just drunkenly surfing. Can confirm her green hair which in her case at least seems to be from being a powernerd rather than a generic case of borderline personality disorder
This. Kiryu Coco IRL is an Adidas wearing makeup streamer that chats about her day. Very boring. The only interesting thing is that she mentioned going on a date and rumor has it the talents aren't allowed to date.
 
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This. Kiryu Coco IRL is an Adidas wearing makeup streamer that chats about her day. Very boring. The only interesting thing is that she mentioned going on a date and rumor has it the talents aren't allowed to date.
The only one I like to really hold out hope is like her avatar is Haachama. For some reason it brings me comfort to know there is potentially an unbridled ball of chaos out there who is actively trying to cook and eat at least one of every other thing on the food chain.
 
This. Kiryu Coco IRL is an Adidas wearing makeup streamer that chats about her day. Very boring. The only interesting thing is that she mentioned going on a date and rumor has it the talents aren't allowed to date.
she probably meant having a date with a girlfriend, there's no way she's that brave considering 99% of her viewers knew who she is
 
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