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Judging from matsuri's sperging, it could be that hers was done before rushia's anniversary live. That's why even if haato suddenly becomes available for matsuri's concert, they can't make the last minute change just for the two of them to share a stage, as the recording session is already over and it'd be a hassle to just redo their part.
the 3rd gen concerts were recorded weeks ago according to Marine when she was explaining that hers will still go ahead and she'll be singing in hers and other concerts despite her current voice problems
If Haato was giving a definite no on July 2nd then Matsuri had not recorded hers by that point, so it's very likely Rushia's was recorded first while Haato was more available for whatever reasons and then on July 1st/2nd onward she couldnt record
 
Here's her twitter account I saw get posted on the NijiEN threads. New to the whole archiving thing, take the wheel if I did shit wrong.
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An Anon on /vt/ posted her roommate shit on 4chan earlier apparently. She was also a vtuber named Cierra.
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She seems to have graduated in December 2019. based on her tweets here.



This "watch out for Rose she'll pump-n-dump NijiEN" shit is giving me flashbacks to the same sort of stuff happening to Luna aka Moruru from Nijisanji Gamers who had the same sort of shitty rrat floating around when she joined Hololive and antis constantly hammering "Luna is just going to Pump and Dump Holo like she did to Nijisanji. She did it a billion times before and she'll do it again". Considering Miki collabed pretty often with Mint (Pomu) and Nova (Elira) I'm sure she's fine.
That's a cool find for sure, it looks like she did fairly well for herself back in the days as Cierra.
That's a good find. I did some lite digging myself and found that Rie does in fact have an obsession for Otome games, however she has also made her own music inspired by Pixel Horror - a genre of video game Petra claims to hate.

On top of that, there's no indication that Rie was ever good at graphic design or animating even though the could draw, but Petra states she made a lot of the graphics for OBSYDIA which falls a lot more inline with Shachimu.

To be honest, their speaking and singing voices, as well as their artstyle, are both so similar that it's really hard to tell which one is which. They both have an active presence on twitter using their personal account, and they both have English as their native tongue with Japanese as their secondary.



Here again, a brief search of Cierra's V-Tuber channel displays that she almost exclusively played Horror games - a genre Petra claims to hate, and it would be a weird thing to lie about given she's already beaten the 'big' Western horror games people tune in for (Outlast, Layers of Fear, Alien: Isolation). Shachimu has played Phasmophobia with Bao but I'd hardly consider it the same kind of horror as intense single-player games. I don't know why, if it's Rie, she wouldn't just say she's shit-scared of horror but enjoys playing them.

This is to say nothing of the fact that Shachimu locked her V-Tuber twitter account despite being an Indie with no rules or real motive to do so, whilst Cierra remains up.

Best bet would be to figure out what timezone Shachimu is on. If she's anywhere but Asia then it's not her.

Update: So Petra tweeted that she was going to sleep and 'waking up' to her debut about 14 hours ago from this post, which would place her at around 1am JST. However, Shachimu was active and awake during this time.

However, checking Shachimu's likes, she has liked a lot of V-Tuber fanart but most specifically has she recently liked art of OBSYDIA and Petra. Rie RT'ing music and tweets of Nijisanji members isn't out of the ordinary when you're an Utaite, and liking art of the new V-Tuber group isn't out of the ordinary when you're an artist who likes V-Tubers. Maybe they're two halves of the same super-entity?
Lol it would be funny if Shachimu and Rei were the same person but honestly, their voices don't sound similar enough for me to buy anything like that. Tbh it is very weird that both seem to play horror games and yet Petra claims to hate them but I'm not sure that rules either of them out because it could be a lie.

I'm sure no one here even cares to continue arguing who Petra was but my bets are still on Rei, mostly because I'm trusting my friend on this. I guess graphic design might be what Rei studies or something she does as a hobby if it is her. As far as I know Shachi doesn't do graphic design either, just digital art and music. Petra isn't claiming to do any art, maybe because she doesn't want to expose herself if she is Shachi, so either way we probably won't know for a while.

Watch as we all turn out wrong and it's someone completely different lol. In any case, I have hopes for Petra once she gets over some of her nervous energy.
 
This one was...something.

Petra confirms that singing is her primary focus as a member of OBSYDIA, to the shock of approximately 0 people.

She expresses that she absolutely adores Debidebi Debiru, but Sara Hoshikawa and Ryushen are her Oshi. She said that she felt that the choices of JP senpai working with them for their original songs was 'tailored to her' for that reason.

There are a sizeable portion of JP fans in the chat. Petra mentions that she's going to try and find a 'balance' between self-translating, as she feels it'll be exhausting for everyone involved if she spends her stream saying the same thing twice. JP fans are asking her to speak slowly and she says she'll try and find a balance for that, too. It seems many JP fans want to use her as a means of getting better at English, which is nice.

She states she wants to turn her JP-onky streams into a Batsu game if she speaks English, after taking inspiration from LazuLight's noodle challenge.

ID Penguin Amicia Michelle shows up in chat and is given mod status immediately after a little banter. Debiru then shows up and engages with her for a little bit promoting her to freak out. I would find this cringe if not for the fact that Petra is so comfy that I couldn't find the energy to care.

She insists to chat that she will not be a 'gap moe' like Finana and that she is genuinely not going to be secretly lewd. Clarifies that the reason she won't make dirty jokes is because she herself doesn't really understand them.

This is where things start to take a bit of a turn...

Throughout the stream, it has become a running gag that Petra keeps getting distracted from reading her SCs and hasn't done a single one, so when she's about to do them, chat hatched the plan of spamming 'Mamaaaaa!' at her like a bunch of bizrarre manbabies to 'distract' her. This happens a few times in what is about another hour or so of stream. She very clearly doesn't understand and feels like she's missing out on something but it's just autism.

Then the Chinese come and ask her if she can speak Chinese and if/when she will do a CN-only stream. Petra says that her Chinese isn't nearly good enough for something like that yet but she'll leave the door open for in the future. However, because they are retards that don't understand English, whenever she explains this, all they hear is 'Chinese' and flood the chat asking her if she can speak Chinese as if it wasn't mentioned multiple times already and was literally in her debut. This also happens a few times.

Chat then asks her to say all the unfunny catchphrases like 'Hi honey!', 'Sheesh!', 'Noot Noot!' (okay she actually did this one and it was cute) etc. At this point I'm practically begging for a world-ending apocalyptic event to somehow only disappear these particular people like the book 'GONE'.

She starts reading SCs. Absolutely all of them are calling her and/or her voice cute (which they absolutely are, more on that in a moment), which means she can only really thank them and move on. Far less room for her to spark up something to talk about like Selen who just talked shit for 2 hours and went to sleep.

Absolutely anything she says or does is met with both JP and EN communities calling her cute or, in the former's case, Nihongo Jouzu'img her into oblivion. They absolutely LOVE her. Petra can do no wrong. At this point she's gained about 5-6K subs since she started.

Rosemi shows up in chat as Petra is talking about her upcoming cooking stream, stating that she only started cooking 3 days ago. Petra's excitement becomes a look of concern. The stream ends with her saying she's failed to get much sleep and needs to catch up on it.

I think Petra fits snugly into the category of 'Maximum Comfy' streamers alongside the likes of Ina, Claire and Uto. Not the most charismatic personalities, but that in and of itself is a charm point when you're surrounded by fucking manics. The way she handled the absolute autistic carnage that was her chat for 2.5 hours was absolutely masterful: she didn't get upset, or visibly annoyed, or exasperated with repeating herself, she gave them the patience of a Saint, and it worked so, so well in favour of her image as EN's answer to Sister Claire and Ina.

This may not be the 'Gura Killer' that /vt/ touted Shachimu to be, but I think she's fucking fantastic for the people who like that brand of V-Tuber.
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That chat seems like a fucking nightmare-ish shitstorm, I was going to watch the archive but I'll abstain, maybe in a week the stupidity will go down a notch or two, then I'll watch her.
 
Nobody talking about Matsuri going mental? I'm surprised. Anyway, the Matsuri second tweet account @7216_2nd have been tweeting stuff during Rushia live when Haachama appear on screen. Long story short, she asked Haachama to appear in her live but was ghosted, so she was shocked to see her appear in Rushia's and get quite upset. End up having to clarify it. TL below. Courtesey of the good old Lyger,
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Someone do the archive thingie.

Edit: Here's the extra spicy bit. Her roommate tweet this after the explanation above. Let your rrat run free people. A juicy drama in a while.
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That menhera definitely deserves her blue checkmark.
 
That chat seems like a fucking nightmare-ish shitstorm, I was going to watch the archive but I'll abstain, maybe in a week the stupidity will go down a notch or two, then I'll watch her.

You can turn chat off and you wouldn't even notice, she does really well and I strongly recommend giving them all a chance.

The only reason chat was up for me is because of how my PC is set up when I'm multi-tasking. I wonder how much their sperging would have bothered me in terms of it affecting the streamer if I didn't know it was there.
 

Dola sama got her well deserved 3.0 update and I do not like it. It smug aura mocks me.
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She shows off a variety of body movement which I haven't seen a lot of aside from when it was first announced to promote the technology. It just simple motions for the upper and lower body but it doesn't spaz out when they move the arm outside of motion capture range like their 3D models. Not sure where will it go from here. Feels pretty experimental.
There are also many new expression, both normal and special effects.
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Gachikoi distance.
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It was very fun to watch. Instead of simply showing her new expression one by one, she was able to ad libbed little situations and made it interesting for everyone. I appreciate the works going into the special effects, and it's fun to see, but my favorite part is actually her normal expressions. The movements and transitions between different expressions is among the most natural I've seen. Dola sama base specs is already high anyway, and this 3.0 update is like a subtle layer of makeup that made every single thing she does becomes much more charming. Later on in the stream she changes into different outfit too, I recommend you check it out. Her newest outfit and kimono goes extremely well with this update.

Speaking of which, Fumi got 3.0 and Yamagami got a new outfit today. With Hoshikawa's recent 3.0, it's happy time for Orihimeboshi. Yamagami new outfit in particular is a real eye opener.

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My first subscription ever to a twitch streamer and went to schizo moth.
Money well spent :story:
 
holy fuck, for like a week now I've been wondering why all these vtubers have been playing a game called "garlic phone" I'm fucking stupid and just dyslexic!
just stupid, but that would make 2 since I thought the same thing till recently

Do you think the BaB mafia harassed PC over Pippa's stream?
@thhrang my dude, Yuni is talking about the illuminati, in case you need more info
 
Long time lurker (about 1 month), decided to finally post. Had to read a couple of pages back since been busy at home. I have to say that this is probably the weirdest place to find balanced discussion in terms of vtubers. Reddit tends to be too much of a hugbox and /vt/ is /vt/.

*Komm Süsser Tod plays in the background*

Jokes aside, I can 100% see Matsuri feeling this was a major betrayal of trust. Especially when Gen 1's that aren't FBK have really struggled to ride the waves since last year, and you'd expect there to be a semblance of comararderie between them for stuff like this. Haato was very noticeably the only Gen 1 not present for Matsuri's stream, and it's not as if these two events happened with a substantial gap between them, either.

Is it unprofessional? Yeah, probably. Personally, I'll take any act of open, honest discussion about what's really going on behind the curtain than suffer more of this 'Hololive is a family that never has problems uwu' faggotry it's known for. Many V-Tubers have sub channels they sadpost on, and there are probably rules against discussing Hololive internal disputes on your main because it not only confirms the connection between roommates but also implicates the person BEHIND the character they have the problem with.

Eh, being a family doesn't mean you don't argue at all. Let's not forget that Matsuri is a menhera who got mad at Luna for forgetting about her fake birthday last year. Also, Haachama is no stranger to stuff like this too. Remember when she ghosted Watame for months because she felt bad about not being able to finish a song for the sheep's birthday on time and Watame thought she hated her for some reason. That shit was Anime-levels of misunderstanding that I didn't think was possible in real life.

Also, I want to double check on a rrat from vt. Petra seems to not actually be Sachi but another indie vtuber called Rie. And then this got posted on/vt/

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I vaguely remember Petra trying to push for one of her tags to be Petraonair which she thankfully didn't go through. I have to say though that I'm kinda wary about this one. Rosemi is good but the others we're a bit of a letdown. To be frank, the only person I really watched in Nijisanji was Lulu. Gibara got me into the rabbithole but since her activities lessened, it was Hololive (specifically Korone) that kept me in it. WIth both Gibara and Lulu gone, Rosemi's probably the only one I'll even consider watching. But with this possible(?) wrinkle added I'm not so sure anymore. Can someone talk me off the ledge here.
 
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