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Shitting on PSA is basically a meme at this point, so I doubt anything will come from this.
Getting upset about this is kinda stupid to be honest, unless you have your actual name in your email address or other personal info you'll be fine.
It's not like they leaked CC info or shipping addresses.
Getting upset about this is kinda stupid to be honest, unless you have your actual name in your email address or other personal info you'll be fine.
It's not like they leaked CC info or shipping addresses.
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Why is that? I'm not very brushed up on my PSA lore so all I know about them is that they make some of the only good American made AKs.
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I'm not sure if this is a troll or not. Their AKs are complete trash, second only to I.O. There are no good American made AKs and anyone telling you likewise is a moron who doesn't know shit about AKs. And yes, I know there are idiots on AKFiles singing praises to PS AKs but the majority of those accounts aren't older than PSA's Gen 1, which isn't suspicious at all.
PSA is a company that cuts corners at every opportunity, they lie about literally everything. I've seen some of their ARs have issues that would make fucking Anderson blush. They are the kings of shoddy and rushed QA. Their ARs are good for someone who is going to shoot maybe 200 rounds a year (admittedly, this is most people nowadays as shooting in American culture has largely fallen to the wayside in favor of being couch potato consumers). Their AKs... oh boy, they have the money to actually make one correctly but like IO, Riley Defense, CAI, they won't because it's not as cheap as programming a CNC machine to shit out lowers. I could rant all day about this but I won't, suffice to say PSA is a shit company ran by shit people making a cheap product for cheap people.
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That's odd. PSA's AK passed Rob's (AK Operators Union) test and was the only American AK to do so. I guess it depends on what your qualifiers for trash are.
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Rob also passed the PS AK for things he failed other AKs for instantly. Robski is hardly the qualifier for excellence and people need to stop thinking one man is the end all be all. The fact that this is the only thing people can cite about the PS AK not being garbage is pretty telling in of itself. At the end of the day, he's just a youtuber that has to make rent selling a shoddy product, much like IV8888 and Olight.
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His cherry picked GF 3 specifically? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKKt5MQSeHA&feature=youtu.be&t=378
He failed the DDI AK for a lot fucking less than this. By his own standards that should have ended the test there but he proved his integrity is for sale.
https://thinlineweapons.com/wiki/index.php/USA_Made_Issues
If you want to illuminate yourselves more on why US made AKs are cheap garbage.
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PSA assembles parts handed off to them such as reject/subpar FN barrels for ARs, their lowers are made for mass production that sometimes have defections that rival Anderson(including the offset buffer retainer hole and off-center FCG holes), and their assembly lines have an average Joe slapping things together without proper attention to detail(canted gas blocks).
Karl taking shots at them rather than APEX(which regularly results in stolen information up to and including credit cards) is to be expected.
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Not to mention how they either over or undertorque their shit. Canted gas blocks and sights like you said. Their rhetoric is meant to rile Joe Sixpack up (An AR in every home in America) because it makes good business sense to do. Nowadays you have a cult of retarded monkeys that scream that PSA can do no wrong because muh patriotism, it's completely senseless. PSA is simply smart enough to know their main demographic : Cheapskates who don't know much about firearms that want a cheap rifle. That is the American consumer culture. I'm not going to get into the typical "X brand is the best AR and you're a retard if you disagree" argument because there are plenty of good and viable brands out there that make a product for more than just putting holes in paper. PSA is not one of them and likely never will be due to their whole philosophy.
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Ah alright. All of that's good to know especially since I'd never even heard of that side of their reputation before. I've got one of their AKs since Rob and GarandThumb both had good experiences with them and it's been great for me fortunately. But anyway I don't want to derail the topic. Thanks for letting me know about all of that.
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Does Karl do anything other than act like a faggot at every opportunity? PSA (or more accurately some dipshit employee) straight up fucked up and deserves to be criticized for it, but Karl can't resist looking like the bigger idiot.
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Wouldn't you be pissy 24/7 if you knew your girlfriend was taking dick from a bunch of guys and you couldn't do anything about it without being called a bigot?
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He's in infosec, you see. We're not supposed to know anything about him.
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Kalashnikovs are now made in the US, but you pay for what you get; a premium for the name on otherwise good rifles, equal to Arsenal (my personal standard) at least in quality. But if it's worth that to someone, why not.
If I had the disposable, I'd buy one in the hopes that I somehow meet back up in Russia with the cash I spent; once clownworld is done with the USA, and Russia becomes one of the last "sane" places I can expat to.
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Your post honestly does not make sense to me. "Kalashnikovs are now made in the US". This was never in dispute? My whole point is US made AKs are trash that people should avoid buying, no matter who makes them. Even the Kalashnikov USA version of the AK-103 is likely to not be that great, and yes I know about the seedy connections they have to KC.
Arsenal doesn't give a shit about the US market, they make more money being NATO's shady arms dealer. Unless it's a milled Arsenal, their stamped shit is garbage now and has been made by ISD (shit) for awhile. So I hope your "personal standard" is either their milled AKs or something that's from at least five years ago.
The fact of the matter is, AKs are no longer $300 rifles and the prices on real import AKs are going to keep rising due to international politics, sanctions, inflation. Do you really think a Saiga SGL is worth $1600 now? I mean if you're a collector that has missed the boat, hard maybe. But otherwise? It's a bog standard Russian AK and there is not a whole lot of difference in AK performance across the Combloc board.
Also you should look up gun ownership in Russia if you want to get your eyes opened. Their government is very against the idea of their citizens owning firearms that aren't smoothbore. They sure as hell wouldn't let a foreigner have what they don't even let their own citizens have.
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Come back when you've actually put rounds downrange with a new US-made Kalashnikov, since you've already admitted not having any experience with them.
Then again, your entire reply is riddled with assumptions, along with possessing a raging hate-boner for US-made AKs, and being short on suggesting alternatives.
And I'm well aware of the state of Russian gun-ownership laws; the statement was facetious. Calm down, fam.
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Not gonna waste my money on a US made AK when I have a several combloc ones. The only thing that really appeals to me is the FN barrel but otherwise? Meh. The K-USA KP-10 is actually excellent though but that is a Vityez clone and personally would rather put what they charge for it towards another MP5 if I want to do the PCC route.
There are no alternatives unless you want to spend an ever increasing amount of money on imports. The Zastava USA ones are "reasonably" priced for now but that is only going to last so long. I'm sure as hell not going to encourage someone to spend $1000 on a Wasr-10.
Also, what assumptions? ISD has been making AKs for Arsenal for awhile for the US market. Arsenal has been supplying NATO with AKs for awhile. Most of their AKs now are milled production, if not all of them. How is any of this an assumption?
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I've put two Franken-ARs together with PSA uppers. One with a complete 20" HBAR upper for coyote and another with a DSA 14.5" barrel and pinned flash hider, because I wanted an AR with a carbine-length handguard. Both of them are routinely shot and I ran into no issues with using Anderson, DSA, or Aero parts with any of them.
Shitting on PSA is about as meme worthy as shitting on Karl.
Shitting on PSA is about as meme worthy as shitting on Karl.
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