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Well, that kinda answers who the previous cracks were directed at by administrativeresults. Lol, I wonder how Karl is seething over this on facebook or telegram.
 
CyrusHowler said:
Hello Fellas. I’m watching Paul Harrell’s newest video and he mentioned something about “This video was filmed before the Hornady situation.”
What is the situation with Hornady? I tried to look it up but I couldn’t find too much info.
Thank you very much.
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Could be the letter they sent out to employees about the vax mandate, unlike a lot of other gun companies they said they'll enforce it. I'll see if i can find it

Edit: This is the supposed letter
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Article with updates: https://www.captainsjournal.com/2021/11/04/further-update-on-hornady-and-the-vaccine-mandate/
Well isn’t this special. So after mandating that his employees take the shot, and then denying it in writing later when the gun community panned his decision, apparently now they’re on a tear to find the one who leaked the memo to the gun community.

The CFO is at the tip of the spear on the hunt. He’s angry. Furthermore, those who do not take the shot will have no access to their sick time. This is punishment for not taking the shot.

So this has almost become unrecoverable for Steve Hornady. It may be able to be salvaged. Let’s assume for a moment that Steve isn’t the one doing this, that he is being led by his CFO and/or his HR department.

The immediate solution is to make an example of his CFO and HR department by firing them in front of the employees. Forthwith unemployed, no returns, no questions asked, no discussion necessary. Do it. Fire them all.

Then write a letter to the gun community and beg for forgiveness and explain that you’re not just concerned about money, that you’re committed to liberty and that this message falls right in line with your production of ammunition for lovers of liberty. Then get in front of your employees and beg for their forgiveness. Explain that you surrounded yourself with awful people, and that mistake won’t happen again – ever.

Now let’s assume that this is all coming from Steve. In that case, there is no recovery. It’s a fait accompli.
Looks like they sent out a memo to employees about getting the jab. The memo got leaked and started a minor firestorm on gunforums/social media. Then they publicly backed down and might be cracking down behind closed doors.
 
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Shaka Brah said:
It's the absolute gayest, most boomerized HR letter ever written. Steve Hornady sounds like a gigantic cuckold in this.
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That's a printed pile of horsepucky. Guess who doesn't buy Hornady anyways, and now never will?

That'd be me, and I'm sure there's a whole lot of others who won't as well. Buffalo Bore is better anyways.
 
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Pocket Dragoon said:
That's a printed pile of some mealymouthed horsepucky. Guess who doesn't buy Hornady anyways, and now never will?

That'd be me, and I'm sure there's a whole lot of others who won't as well. Buffalo Bore is better anyways.
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Gun boomers always pull the "No Infringements on my rights!" card but bend over to get pounded every time the government introduces something unconstitutional that affects them. If you're into reloading, you're kind of screwed, though. they have a chokehold on the market as far as I know.
 
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Leslie Nielsen said:
Gun boomers always pull the "No Infringements on my rights!" card but bend over to get pounded every time the government introduces something unconstitutional that affects them.
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That is the lot in life with gun boomers, fudds and other gun quislings. Fortunately the other gun owners, 2nd Amendment and Constitution supporters have made it a point of fucking over those people and companies who betrayed the Constitution. Although the biggest hurdle have been getting the word and proof out to everyone. And the continuous chicken dance and reshuffling every time something like this happens.
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If you're into reloading, you're kind of screwed, though. they have a chokehold on the market as far as I know.
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Hornady doesn't have a chokehold on the reloading component and equipment market as they have competition from the larger ammo manufacturers down to the niche garage shops. Word of this spreads out far enough, those Joe Brandon contracts are going to be the only real source of income for the company.
 
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Archie_Kimkicker said:
And as government contracts become the most stable source of income, expect Hornady, and more like them, to become extensions of Biden Admin idiocy.
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Going by past precedent relying on government contracts as primary or only source of income inevitably will fuck over those companies. As the U.S. Government isn't the most stable of end user even in the best of times.
 
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I have some Hornady ammo but I’ll try to not buy any more. I live in the DPRNY so it’s tough to get stuff.
When you buy ammo from a Local Gun Shop, do the ammo makers get a cut of the money like they do if you buy it from a big box store?
 
CyrusHowler said:
When you buy ammo from a Local Gun Shop, do the ammo makers get a cut of the money like they do if you buy it from a big box store?
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generally speaking, not unless it was a special order of some kind. i purchase ammunition from a distributor in bulk for further retail sales, so it's very rare for a manufacturer to directly see profit from my sales. sometimes for special orders (for customers like a club or for a customer that wants a particular product that isn't produced commonly) i will generally collect enough orders to place directly to a manufacturer and import/receive it on behalf of the customer, skipping the distributor entirely but that's outside the norm.

a recent PO i processed was for 50,000 rounds of Winchester/Olin Ranger-T Bonded ammunition (LE packaging SKU which is a bit different than the consumer package). Winchester/Olin regularly produces the ammunition to meet million round orders to distributors or governments on long production runs subdivided into batches on production lines. the distributor receives that order over a period of time, and sells it to large retailers (big box stores like Cabela's and Sportsman's Guide), medium retailers (SG Ammo, LAX Ammo), and small retailers (local gun stores, shooting ranges that sell ammo on site) who in turn sell to individual customers. sometimes distributors will sell directly to certain customers like police agencies, but this is more rare than you might think.

an ammunition manufacturer generally sees very little to no profit from reloaded ammunition.
 
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Friekorps2656 said:
I do believe Hornady walked that back after the memo got leaked. Still on my shitlist though.
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They're being very shady about it. They first claimed it never happened, then they claimed they were sorry and they weren't going to do it. Now they're trying to find and fire the people in their company who are against the mandate.
 
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Shaka Brah said:
They're being very shady about it. They first claimed it never happened, then they claimed they were sorry and they weren't going to do it. Now they're trying to find and fire the people in their company who are against the mandate.
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They're REALLY butthurt someone leaked the memo, and if the guns and gadgets video is accurate, they banned phones in the workplace and even went as far as to threaten company bonuses. Since Biden's mandate got nuked I wonder if they're going to try to backtrack again.
 
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