General GunTuber thread

My point is that's ridiculous, to think someone is the end all be all just because they've killed someone. Killing other people is probably the most common thing on the planet and it's the number one thing our species excels at.

Professional killers can be just as dumb as dog shit as Karl and other guntubers.
 
You don't have to be a good shooter to have a body count, fyi.

Of course. I’m a much better shooter than most of the people I know who have been in combat and killed people. Shooting does not equal fighting, it is merely one component of it.

You’re ignoring the other half of my statement regarding results.

If I want to listen to people talk about gun fighting I want to hear about it from people who have actually done it.

If I want to hear about shooting techniques and skill building I want to hear about it from people with objective criteria backing it up. That usually means competitive results performed and recorded in public.

Most YouTube personalities have neither a combat resume or a competitive resume that make me take them seriously.
 
Of course. I’m a much better shooter than most of the people I know who have been in combat and killed people. Shooting does not equal fighting, it is merely one component of it.

You’re ignoring the other half of my statement regarding results.

If I want to listen to people talk about gun fighting I want to hear about it from people who have actually done it.

If I want to hear about shooting techniques and skill building I want to hear about it from people with objective criteria backing it up. That usually means competitive results performed and recorded in public.

Most YouTube personalities have neither a combat resume or a competitive resume that make me take them seriously.
You're right of course, with that second component. I could give a fuck less about the opinions of people who shoot at non moving paper when it comes to firearms or killing unless it's those super long range autists.
 
It's the difference between sport and practical skill. Any amount of shooting practice is going to be better than not, but competition only really teaches you how to shoot competition. That's perfectly fine as there is a lot of overlap between the sport and the real world but you're never really going to know how good you are until you need to use those skills.

Which brings up a different conversation about the type of training you do vs the situations you might find your self in. It's questionable whether all this John Wick larping is going to help you when 3 spics jump you in the night or break in to your house. There are guys out there that get dressed up in their SEAL cosplay and train hard with their tacticool Gucci gamer AR's/Glawk's but use a shotgun for home defence. I'm not trying say any of those skills are useless, but I do feel like people have got themselves in a strange mind set when it comes to self-defence and competition has got a lot of guys unable to think outside of the box.

Training is fantastic and absolutely necessary but it shouldn't be confused with real world experience and people who do have a real problem with overconfidence. James Yeager is a great example of a guy who's done a lot of training but when the chips are down he shits the bed hard and got people killed. It's not firearms related but a friend of mine is serious fighter, he's a boxer and a brown belt in BJJ. The dude is never out of the gym and when he says he can handle himself in fight I believe him but if he gets jumped by 2 guys with knives, he's dead. If he grapples a guy to the ground and that dudes friend comes out of nowhere and stomps on the back of his head, he's dead.

Nobody wants to hear this when they've invested a lot of time, money, blood, sweat and tears in to something but all the training in the world isn't going to help you if you have a poor understanding of the situations that your most likely to find you're self in. You'd be better off trading all these tattooed up, roided out, beard having "instructors" for some real hood niggas. They'll tell you the truth that the most important things in a fight are the element of surprise and numbers and the only way to win these fights are to not fight them in the first place.

This is why situational awareness and good judgement are the foundation of surviving a gunfight, street fight or just crossing the street. The world is a dynamic place that you can never really prepare for and your not going to be as prepared for a mugging as a mugger will be. It's cheap to learn too, head up, eyes forward, take your fucking earphones out and pay attention to your environment. It's that easy but you try to teach this to gun enthusiast and he turns into a paranoid fucker who jumps every time a brotha walks past him or joins that sheepdawg larp and ends up being the most conspicuous human being possible who you can guarantee has several hundred dollars in shit on him. You see these dudes swinging their head left to right like a fucking owl after mag dumping a paper target 10m away. Bro we all know you didn't take in shit after that "scan" and even if you did the real world is full of shit that the range your on doesn't have, so your giving yourselves whiplash for no reason.

The gun community has a real problem with fat overconfident retards who think the the superior training they've received from "insert ex-military turned e-celeb" and the skills they've honed at "insert competition" have made them
 
This is why situational awareness and good judgement are the foundation of surviving a gunfight, street fight or just crossing the street. The world is a dynamic place that you can never really prepare for and your not going to be as prepared for a mugging as a mugger will be. It's cheap to learn too, head up, eyes forward, take your fucking earphones out and pay attention to your environment.
As my granddad used to tell me, all the training in the world won't save you if you don't wake up before the burglar gets the drop on you.
 
As my granddad used to tell me, all the training in the world won't save you if you don't wake up before the burglar gets the drop on you.

The same people who go out and spend an obscene amount of money putting together a 'professional' quality carbine for home defense are the same sort of people who only have a simple dead bolt between them and the bad guys trying to break into their home. If the pack of thugs performing a home invasion on your house kicks your door in at 2am, they're going to be bum rushing your bedroom and you're not going to have the time you think you do to put your Gucci shit on.

Without power leveling too hard, a friend's dad is the sort who buys a shit load of guns and then posts about them on Facebook. Some white trash kids figured out where he lived, kicked his door in, and rushed into his bedroom and beat the ever living shit out of him, before he could ever grab the pistol on his bedstand.

You have to give yourself time to both get ready to fight and to wake up. On the opposite end of the spectrum, a police officer buddy of mine responded to a shooting where a dad accidentally blew his son away, because he came home late at night and mistook him as an intruder passing by his bedroom door. He hadn't even gotten up and out of bed by the time he drew his pistol and shot him.

Reinforce your entry points, put barriers between you and your front door, and forget about being Meal Team Six and clearing your house: if you don't have kids you need to get to, fuck that shit, that's what the police get paid to do. Hide in a dark corner of your room with your wife or anime body pillow and pop whoever comes through your bedroom door.

In the 1990s and early 2000s, shotguns were the ideal tools for home defense. Now we're onto home defense carbines with fanny packs filled with enough spare magazines to make you famous if you live through that gunfight. I wonder how long before we go right back to simple shotguns reigning supreme in the 'tactical' world.
 
Which brings up a different conversation about the type of training you do vs the situations you might find your self in. It's questionable whether all this John Wick larping is going to help you when 3 spics jump you in the night or break in to your house. There are guys out there that get dressed up in their SEAL cosplay and train hard with their tacticool Gucci gamer AR's/Glawk's but use a shotgun for home defence.
So what you're saying is the guys who show up to a MOUT shoot house in pajamas/boxers with a shotgun are those who are truly preparing for the most realistic scenario?
 
So what you're saying is the guys who show up to a MOUT shoot house in pajamas/boxers with a shotgun are those who are truly preparing for the most realistic scenario?
Train as you fight, and all that. If your day mainly consists of fighting with the toilet & wrangling small children/animals, chances are pretty good you'll be in boxers when the house gets invaded (or naked, if you're one those degenerates).

And on that note, proper Crocs are the superior tactical house footwear; not old-man slides, slippers, fuzzy houseshoes, or sandals/Air Jesus'es.
 
You say that, but the last time I showed up to a course half cut and buck ass naked I was informed that behavior was "unacceptable".
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Imagine not dragging a whole ass bed to the local range.
 
I want a rich guntuber to buy a trailer or a house and shoot in it to prove/disprove home defense myths. The last Kentucky Ballistics video had him shooting a shotgun in what looks like a trailer in one of his stupid intros so let's hope he doesn't go full retard and shoot the place up with one of his retarded safari guns.
 
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I want a rich guntuber to buy a trailer or a house and shoot in it to prove/disprove home defense myths. The last Kentucky Ballistics video had him shooting a shotgun in what looks like a trailer in one of his stupid intros so let's hope he doesn't go full exceptional individual and shoot the place up with one of his exceptional safari guns.
What kind of myths? Penetration tests are all over YouTube, as are videos of retards shuffling around slicing the pie clearing rooms with various guns.
If you're talking sound, your hearing is definitely damaged after the first shot and it is very much true that anyone else in adjacent rooms will have difficulty discerning a gunshot from dropping shit much like people outside confuse gunshots for fireworks.
 
What kind of myths? Penetration tests are all over YouTube, as are videos of retards shuffling around slicing the pie clearing rooms with various guns.
If you're talking sound, your hearing is definitely damaged after the first shot and it is very much true that anyone else in adjacent rooms will have difficulty discerning a gunshot from dropping shit much like people outside confuse gunshots for fireworks.
Can confirm unfortunately.
 
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I'm genuinely amused that Paul Harrell is willing to demonstrate the bullet resistance of Grape Nuts:

 
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