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Panama said:
RTI was the Ethiopian rifles, right? Anyone whose been around the milsurp circles knows anything from RTI is a crapshoot. No one was expecting the Gahendras to be shootable Martinis, and they shouldn’t expect much more from a hundred year old Berthier that was rearsenaled in Africa. Anything from that lot was going to be a wallhanger at best.
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Correct, and that's why I don't like it. I think the RTI/Interarms guy figured he found a way to market to a new set of marks.
 
Mikoyan said:
Correct, and that's why I don't like it. I think the RTI/Interarms guy figured he found a way to market to a new set of marks.
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Putting Ian aside for a moment here, I cannot understand the thought process of anyone buying one of those rifles intending to use them.

Milsurp guns can be a bit of a crapshoot at the best of times since you are effectively buying used goods, and goods that are usually pretty hard worn. It's like buying a delivery guy's used car, unless you know what you're doing or show it to someone who does there's always the risk you're being sold something only a few miles away from being an expensive heap of junk. So, anyone thinking about buying not just milsurp, but visibly damaged, second- or even third-generation 80-100 year old milsurp coming from Africa? It makes zero fucking sense to me. These are wallhangers and collection filler to anyone with a pair of functioning eyeballs, Gun Jesus' seal of approval or not.
 
So which guntubers are confirmed/suspected shills and who is g2g? I'd love some channel recommendations as well.
I know IV8888 is a shill. Paul Harrel for sure not a shill.
Anybody want to add?
 
Corn Flakes said:
Putting Ian aside for a moment here, I cannot understand the thought process of anyone buying one of those rifles intending to use them.
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It makes zero fucking sense to me. These are wallhangers and collection filler to anyone with a pair of functioning eyeballs, Gun Jesus' seal of approval or not.
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We got spoiled for decades on what came into the country; but the wells abroad have ran dry or the spigots turned off, and the few importers of milsurps that are left have generally pivoted to modern firearms.

As for the African cache, I figure the best rifles were cherry-picked by a select group of people (owners, investors, Gun Jesus, etc) for their personal collections, long before any of it was offered to the public. And that any functional and/or valuable rifles left are like ipods in a claw-machine full of what is essentially junk. But people will still pay for a chance.....
Rent Tin said:
So which guntubers are confirmed/suspected shills and who is g2g? I'd love some channel recommendations as well.
I know IV8888 is a shill. Paul Harrel for sure not a shill.
Anybody want to add?
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The term "shill" doesn't really have meaning anymore.
 
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So got a question; was it ever explained why AngryCops grew that handlebar mustache of his? Was it for some sort of film project he was working on just something he randomly decided to do because he could?

Also, in mustache news, Donut finally shaved off his beard down to just a mustache after several months of him having a beard.

Finally, can we get a decent "who's who" thing set up for people getting into Guntube and it's satellite channels?
 
MirrorNoir said:
Finally, can we get a decent "who's who" thing set up for people getting into Guntube and it's satellite channels?
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I have zero idea about the first two questions but this would be some decent OP material.
 
Sleazy Car Salesman said:
I have zero idea about the first two questions but this would be some decent OP material.
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Why?
Plug something like "gun review for _____" or "best self-defense guns" into YouTube's search, with a new/incognito (or boomer/normie) account, and all the big names will pop up in the first page of results; Hickock45, IV8888, Forgotten Weapons (for anything vintage), Sootch, TFB, Lucky Gunner, Honest Outlaw, Yankee Marshal, and Colon Noir (if your youtube sub/search history is full of nigger shit) will make up the first two pages of results.

Attempting to make an OP like that would quickly devolve into slapfighting about what guntubers are shills or annoying faggots, and which ones are insincere or grifting assholes.

This thread has that in spades already; why do the extra work, when it'll just get merged or shut down anyways?
 
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Pocket Dragoon said:
Why?
Plug something like "gun review for _____" or "best self-defense guns" into YouTube's search, with a new/incognito (or boomer/normie) account, and all the big names will pop up in the first page of results; Hickock45, Forgotten Weapons (for anything vintage), IV8888, Sootch, TFB, Honest Outlaw, Yankee Marshal, and Colon Noir (if your youtube sub/search history is full of nigger shit) will make up the first two pages of results.

Attempting to make an OP like that would quickly devolve into slapfighting about what guntubers are shills or annoying faggots, and which ones are insincere or grifting assholes.

This thread has that in spades already; why do the extra work, when it'll just get merged or shut down anyways?
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Yeah you got me there.
 
Pocket Dragoon said:
We got spoiled for decades on what came into the country; but the wells abroad have ran dry or the spigots turned off, and the few importers of milsurps that are left have generally pivoted to modern firearms.
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Oh, I know that. I bought a SKS back when these were dirt-cheap and I'm still salty I didn't get a M1895 before Ian kept recommeding the damn things. But even when we had that glut of perfectly fine milsurp rifles, it was not hard to get taken for a ride because you never knew what had actually happened to the rifle before it got to you. A buddy of mine back in the day got himself a Mauser of some description and the gun looked fine and the lockup was safe, but three shots into trying to check it for zero the stock basically exploded in his hands. He wasn't injured, but we found out that the wood was rotten throughout. Seriously, it looked spongy. So he took the rifle to the shop and found out the barrel was also shot. Like, "hotdog in a hallway" loose around the bullet. So he just threw the damn thing away.

And that was a rifle that looked perfectly fine and had decent provenance. It was Eastern European but it only served in one army. These visibly damaged, pitted and/or rusted rifles coming out of Africa? Getting those is like adopting and old, limp dog. Just like the dog isn't there to guard your house, the gun isn't there to be fired. You're getting them to have them near you. Either the dog at your feet, or the gun on your wall. And don't get those mixed up.

Pocket Dragoon said:
As for the African cache, I figure the best rifles were cherry-picked by a select group of people (owners, investors, Gun Jesus, etc) for their personal collections, long before any of it was offered to the public. And that any functional and/or valuable rifles left are like ipods in a claw-machine full of what is essentially junk. But people will still pay for a chance.....
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I do so love old boomers complaining about kids wasting money on gacha games and Fortnite skins, when they're willing to drop half a grand on some rusted-over Royal Tiger import just because "IT'S MILSURP". The generations may change but impulsive idiots are all the same.
 
Corn Flakes said:
But even when we had that glut of perfectly fine milsurp rifles, it was not hard to get taken for a ride because you never knew what had actually happened to the rifle before it got to you.
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Excuse my further derailment, but this is the main issue someone faces in the current expansion of the milsurp market. With so many buyers(and sellers) you have more people to distrust when it comes to what they're selling. RTI and other Ethiopian imports will be sold as what the rifle is rather than as a wallhanger similar to other trickery I've observed both in my own buying and examination on behalf of others including, but not limited to; smudging powder residue over cracks in receivers, grinding down and refinishing bulged barrels, leaving handguards loosely attached to conceal bulged barrels, grinding locking lugs to """fix""" headspace, letting dirt and grease dry over bulged receivers/barrels(that was fun), and my personal favorite, painting over rust in the chamber.

In fairness, a few of these have taught people how sturdy guns can be. But with more people willing to buy and an increase in retards doing things they shouldn't, you have an exponential chance of having both a gun with many parts someone has physically shoved up their ass for their own enjoyment without cleaning afterwards(one hearkens back to the infamous pictures from /k/) and/or a gun that is theoretically very unsound and should be destroyed or otherwise removed from the market.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
Excuse my further derailment, but this is the main issue someone faces in the current expansion of the milsurp market. With so many buyers(and sellers) you have more people to distrust when it comes to what they're selling. RTI and other Ethiopian imports will be sold as what the rifle is rather than as a wallhanger similar to other trickery I've observed both in my own buying and examination on behalf of others including, but not limited to; smudging powder residue over cracks in receivers, grinding down and refinishing bulged barrels, leaving handguards loosely attached to conceal bulged barrels, grinding locking lugs to """fix""" headspace, letting dirt and grease dry over bulged receivers/barrels(that was fun), and my personal favorite, painting over rust in the chamber.

In fairness, a few of these have taught people how sturdy guns can be. But with more people willing to buy and an increase in retards doing things they shouldn't, you have an exponential chance of having both a gun with many parts someone has physically shoved up their ass for their own enjoyment without cleaning afterwards(one hearkens back to the infamous pictures from /k/) and/or a gun that is theoretically very unsound and should be destroyed or otherwise removed from the market.
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That's just the way of things, unfortunately. A market starts booming, attracts people who just want to make a quick buck without concern for quality, the market gets saturated, there are a couple high-profile scandals or flops that damage the market's credibility, and eventually the market crashes and the profiteers move on to the next big thing. It's a tale as old as commerce itself.
 
Rent Tin said:
So which guntubers are confirmed/suspected shills and who is g2g? I'd love some channel recommendations as well.
I know IV8888 is a shill. Paul Harrel for sure not a shill.
Anybody want to add?
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BritishMuzzleloaders
C&Rsenal
Duelist1954
Cap and ball
Gunblue490


I dont mind "shills" that are upfront about it. LuckyGunner shill's their ammo business at the end of each video but the video's themselves are not shilly at all. they are mostly about concepts with the exception of some of their reviews which i think still tend to be fair.

Hickok45 is great if you just want a visual users manual and stats. He has always been honest about where he gets the guns.

Gunblastdotcom were the first online shills and thus never developed the deceptive attitude of some channels.
 
Corn Flakes said:
But even when we had that glut of perfectly fine milsurp rifles, it was not hard to get taken for a ride because you never knew what had actually happened to the rifle before it got to you.
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That's why the thought of buying milsurps online has always made me cringe, same as buying a used car; even if they're "hand-selected" or "inspected".
Corn Flakes said:
I do so love old boomers complaining about kids wasting money on gacha games and Fortnite skins, when they're willing to drop half a grand on some rusted-over Royal Tiger import just because "IT'S MILSURP". The generations may change but impulsive idiots are all the same.
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True, but I don't think it's boomers buying into things like the African cache; by now the "smart" majority have already filled out their collections, or have zero interest for whatever reason(s). Sure, there are those who are late to the game & absolutely have to have the Mauser or Enfield they've always wanted, with the rest being plain ignorant or simply pathological buyers.

I figure it's largely X'ers and millennials who bought into the African cache first, and and in the future we'll see those same crusty rifles being resold at exorbitant prices to ignorant/wealthy boomers or clueless zoomers; and gladly pay through the nose, because they have no living memory & experience with the history & market.
 
Only A Retard Sometimes said:
BritishMuzzleloaders
C&Rsenal
Duelist1954
Cap and ball
Gunblue490


I dont mind "shills" that are upfront about it. LuckyGunner shill's their ammo business at the end of each video but the video's themselves are not shilly at all. they are mostly about concepts with the exception of some of their reviews which i think still tend to be fair.

Hickok45 is great if you just want a visual users manual and stats. He has always been honest about where he gets the guns.

Gunblastdotcom were the first online shills and thus never developed the deceptive attitude of some channels.
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I hate most of guntube because of the shilling. I'll watch the occasional Hickock video because of just that - you know he's bought, you know exactly what that means and you're just here to see grandpa have fun with guns.

Good picks all around. I'd add Hoplopfheil with the caveat that his videos are limited in scope and be prepared for autism. But he is 0% shill.
 
Mikoyan said:
I hate most of guntube because of the shilling. I'll watch the occasional Hickock video because of just that - you know he's bought, you know exactly what that means and you're just here to see grandpa have fun with guns.
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By this point, isn't the same true for the rest of the big-name guntubers? Excepting those that are big enough that they don't need to shill, or have income outside of their channel that isn't tied to their online presence.
Mikoyan said:
I'd add Hoplopfheil ... he is 0% shill.
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Any proof of that, or just a guntuber's word & the current community consensus? And again, the word doesn't have any meaning anymore; the same as "grooming".

This also touches on the weird personal connections people develop for their favorite guntubers & brands.

Maybe it's just me, but I remember a time when most everyone on screen was paid to be there; excepting probably witness interviews on the afternoon news, and it was incredibly naive to assume otherwise.

I just don't understand why it matters it matters so much, aside from being ego-related or some form of virtue signalling.
 
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Pocket Dragoon said:
Any proof of that, or just a guntuber's word & the current community consensus?
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If he is sponsored and doesn't specifically state that he is that's actually illegal. Same goes for any Youtube content creator, Tom Scott actually has a good video on the subject.
 
Sleazy Car Salesman said:
If he is sponsored and doesn't specifically state that he is that's actually illegal. Same goes for any Youtube content creator, Tom Scott actually has a good video on the subject.
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True, but a sponsorship isn't the same as monitized videos, which is what I often hear the word shill being used to describe. And again; why should it matter if an online content creator allows 30-second mass-produced ads (like Raid)? Or review products from certain manufacturers (i.e. Springfield), bought with their own money?

It's the usage of the term that confuses me, and why/how people get so invested.
 
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