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So............
If he ever and I mean ever gets the AK50 ready to sell, how long do you think it will be before he is getting sued cause he is taking peoples money and not delivering these things?
Considering how well his AKG line of AKs went, probably within a month. He had to have Lee Armory bail him out.
 
So............
If he ever and I mean ever gets the AK50 ready to sell, how long do you think it will be before he is getting sued cause he is taking peoples money and not delivering these things?
I don't think he plans to sell them, at this point it's just a meme project his autistic fanbase bullies him into continuing at this point.
 
the AK50 is his channel's money
That's why I can't hate, because he's not "The AK Guy" - he's a full time youtuber playing a character who's convinced he's the hybrid of FPS Russia and Nic Cage in Lord of War. And with the meme review stuff he probably captured the attention of a ton of zoomers we need on our side.
But goddamn with every update it seems he hasn't unfucked his manufacturing capabilities and needs to pay out the ass to have his one off prototypes machined somewhere else.
It's kind of disappointing to see but a ton of people, both self-taught and formally educated, are stuck in this CAD -> 3d print -> CNC machining loop. When you have to machine one off fuck huge chunks of 4140/4150 steel and you're not blessed with a company's R&D budget, iterative design gets expensive fast.
In the old days, prototypes got frankensteined. If a change was needed, they'd put the part on a manual mill (or straight up go at it with a hand file), drill, tap, then bolt a new chunk into it. It's not going to need to last more than a hundred rounds anyway. He said the v2 prototype was close to three digits in round count. So he probably spent thousands on a prototype just to shoot 90 rounds and start over again.
His shop must have at least a compressor. How come he's never thought about rigging a hammer valve like the ones used on airguns to blast the piston with air so he can mimic the semi-automatic cycle without having to finish a prototype and shoot a real 50 BMG round?
I don't think he plans to sell them, at this point it's just a meme project his autistic fanbase bullies him into continuing at this point.
I actually think he wants to finish it, but he can't manage a project to save his life and it gets in the way of sipping White Claws with his youtube buddies.
 
In the old days, prototypes got frankensteined. If a change was needed, they'd put the part on a manual mill (or straight up go at it with a hand file), drill, tap, then bolt a new chunk into it. It's not going to need to last more than a hundred rounds anyway. He said the v2 prototype was close to three digits in round count. So he probably spent thousands on a prototype just to shoot 90 rounds and start over again.
This is the kind of thing that I'm talking about though, and it's what separates the mechanically inclined and experienced from those who aren't.
His shop must have at least a compressor. How come he's never thought about rigging a hammer valve like the ones used on airguns to blast the piston with air so he can mimic the semi-automatic cycle without having to finish a prototype and shoot a real 50 BMG round?
Case in point.
 
This is the kind of thing that I'm talking about though, and it's what separates the mechanically inclined and experienced from those who aren't.
Reminds me of Hudson...Some gun guy hears about metal SLS and thinks he's gonna revolutionize the prototype process.

Ians video with the first prototype is laughably un-manufacturable. Literally a 5 second look from anyone who's been around a machine tool could tell you how retarded the integral round locking lugs are.

Each iteration took another person with more experience than the last to unfuck the previous one.

How you could also run a business so poorly is also quite a feat.
 
I think you guys are putting far too much stock on the AK-50 being anything other than a passion project that got out of hand because everybody latched on to it as a meme. He intends to sell it, but he's not on any kind of deadline for it so he's definitely not hurrying along. It has no bearing on his business beyond being a dumb drain on resources (keep reading). It's also not the main source of content for his channel, and he clearly wishes people demanded less of it. The meat and potatoes of his channel are the meme reviews (which have somehow turned into a news show as told by meme) and cursed gun images, those are what made him explode in popularity and they're the ones that get the most sponsorships for him. The AK-50 updates are more like the "look at this cool new gun I got!" videos: good engagement but sporadic.

His problem is that he doesn't actually have proper machining hardware at his shop. He's got presses and other gunsmithing equipment, but very little he can use to make repeatable parts from scratch. That shit is expensive and I'm not sure anyone on his crew is good enough at it to actually make use of a professional lathe and mill set-up. Plus they're all zoomers so they'd probably want to go CNC with it and make it even more expensive. These updates take so long because the idiot is contracting some other shop somewhere else to charge him 4 digits for something he could do with bar stock and a mill. I'm sure if he had just invested that money on equipment instead he'd be able to do all that shit in-house by now.
 
I think the AK50 was something that he wanted to do at first but then he realized he bit off way more than he could chew and just relegated it to the background with token effort while he does dumb meme shit for a dumber audience.
 
Reminds me of Hudson...Some gun guy hears about metal SLS and thinks he's gonna revolutionize the prototype process.

Ians video with the first prototype is laughably un-manufacturable. Literally a 5 second look from anyone who's been around a machine tool could tell you how retarded the integral round locking lugs are.
Machinelet here, can you elaborate on this part? What was he doing and why didn't it work?
 
I think you guys are putting far too much stock on the AK-50 being anything other than a passion project that got out of hand because everybody latched on to it as a meme. He intends to sell it, but he's not on any kind of deadline for it so he's definitely not hurrying along. It has no bearing on his business beyond being a dumb drain on resources (keep reading). It's also not the main source of content for his channel, and he clearly wishes people demanded less of it. The meat and potatoes of his channel are the meme reviews (which have somehow turned into a news show as told by meme) and cursed gun images, those are what made him explode in popularity and they're the ones that get the most sponsorships for him. The AK-50 updates are more like the "look at this cool new gun I got!" videos: good engagement but sporadic.

His problem is that he doesn't actually have proper machining hardware at his shop. He's got presses and other gunsmithing equipment, but very little he can use to make repeatable parts from scratch. That shit is expensive and I'm not sure anyone on his crew is good enough at it to actually make use of a professional lathe and mill set-up. Plus they're all zoomers so they'd probably want to go CNC with it and make it even more expensive. These updates take so long because the idiot is contracting some other shop somewhere else to charge him 4 digits for something he could do with bar stock and a mill. I'm sure if he had just invested that money on equipment instead he'd be able to do all that shit in-house by now.
I know it's noting more then away to get money from his YouTube channel. It's never going to be done, I just like to think of the what if's and what not's.
 
Machinelet here, can you elaborate on this part? What was he doing and why didn't it work?
A large majority of machining is being able to access the areas you need to cut. The sides of the frame would be in the way if you were trying to cut those round features.
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Most frames have their pockets cut from the top with end/ball mills and slotting tools, sometimes EDM. But all those need clearance above/below or both. There are right angle milling heads but they are very very large....
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Even if they didn't know machining a CAD person should have known better. Even the "never-held-a-hammer" artsy designers would have never handed something over like that.

Maybe they were intending to 3d print the frame all along? Then that just shows how little they knew about the technology. There is a reason companies haven't got rid of their machine shops in favor of 3d printers.

When they came upon the same problems of machinability for the 2nd prototype they just broke components into more components. Yes its actually cuttable now, but it's clear they didn't talk to a machinist about "should" it be done that way. They were probably getting paid per part/ per hour so it doesn't matter to them.

By the 3rd prototype they were still fucking around with the limitations set from the start. It takes a certain amount of boldness and naivety to think you're gonna make a magazine from scratch. Even the big boy companies know better. Thankfully this at this point they started talking to an engineering firm.

The name alone is enough to make me think that they had a serious ego problem.
 
Aah, I see. I knew about having to actually reach to make cuts, I just didn't know they were doing this.
I never understood why Ian was so impressed by the Hudson pistols, they seemed mundane at best to me, but learning this makes me kind of realize why they have problems.
 
Aah, I see. I knew about having to actually reach to make cuts, I just didn't know they were doing this.
I never understood why Ian was so impressed by the Hudson pistols, they seemed mundane at best to me, but learning this makes me kind of realize why they have problems.
Ian is attracted to the weird, strange, and unorthodox, the Hudson fit the bill. He's never been shy about wanting innovation in the industry and he saw a pistol doing something new and gimmicky, I don't think he had any ulterior motive.
 
Ian is attracted to the weird, strange, and unorthodox, the Hudson fit the bill. He's never been shy about wanting innovation in the industry and he saw a pistol doing something new and gimmicky, I don't think he had any ulterior motive.
And it is a very nice shooting gun. Like, the innovation they were going for actually worked. But it was simply way too expensive for "just" a nice-shooting pistol.

Similar thing with Ian's current infatuation with the Alien. I'm certain that pistol is really nice to shoot. I'm also certain I'm never shelling out 4+ grand for it.
 
I'll give the Fuck Bruno that it's a handgun in an all new caliber and that it isn't just another 9mm or .45, and that it seems to go for a different niche.
 
I know this isn't specifically guntube related but it's the best place I can think of to laugh briefly at Deviant Ollam where he acts like this dumb ass mask is at all worth using over a regular mask for anything but extra virtue signalling out in the world.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Xxf50gnaYMk
I don't get this guy, he's simultaneously Karl-tier retarded yet not actually stupid as far as I can tell.
Not gun related, but Deviant unfortunately stopped wearing his fishbowl...N95's are still good though...

He also has a good 7 minutes @40:45 about how he would fuck a man if they were feminine enough.
 
Not gun related, but Deviant unfortunately stopped wearing his fishbowl...N95's are still good though...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bIgDAawRiQQ:1833
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He has less engagement than a post-op troon, how embarrassing.
He also has a good 7 minutes @40:45 about how he would fuck a man if they were feminine enough.
The massive cope here is unbelievable. "Sexual compatibility is the smallest part of the relationship! Penis and vagina is such a highschool textbook mindest!"
 
Not gun related, but Deviant unfortunately stopped wearing his fishbowl...N95's are still good though...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bIgDAawRiQQ:1833
He also has a good 7 minutes @40:45 about how he would fuck a man if they were feminine enough.
Anyone else feels like that guy needs to be grabbed by the collar and slapped around until he admits he's gay? It's Current Year, man. You can admit you like taking cock because you're getting so insufferable no woman wants to be with you. It's just another thing for us to make fun of.
 
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He has less engagement than a post-op troon, how embarrassing.

The massive cope here is unbelievable. "Sexual compatibility is the smallest part of the relationship! Penis and vagina is such a highschool textbook mindest!"
How to tell us you don't fuck your wife without telling us you don't fuck your wife.
 
He also has a good 7 minutes @40:45 about how he would fuck a man if they were feminine enough.
Straight up mentions the Kinsey scale. lol
lmao even.
The massive cope here is unbelievable. "Sexual compatibility is the smallest part of the relationship! Penis and vagina is such a highschool textbook mindest!"
The Science Believer™ crowd thinks the biological functions that made humans who they are today are just silly technicalities? Whoa.
 
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