General GunTuber thread

InRange and FW are their own separate product. Ian still shills the WWSD rifles, but on his own channel. Ian and Karl have not done a collab in a considerable amount of time, and likely will not do so ever again.
I imagine it's pure business at this point or Ian is doing it as a solid then. I remember vaguely following it, seemed like a neat thought experiment concept rather than a marketable product. I cared much more about the planning and development than anything else. A shame either way that it seems to have failed so hard- Karl borders on Lolcow, but I hate seeing people enterprise and fail. I'm glad Karl is basically severed from this point, I never cared for the match shooting and outside a handful of videos from InRange I find him intolerable. Again, don't like seeing him fail, but the only way he'd grow without Ian is if Karl wasn't Karl.
Also Russell joined the thread and he's actually not half bad.
Good to hear. My comment on that mask was more about the product itself than him but I think anyone who would wear that thing in public deserves a corrective slap.
 
I imagine it's pure business at this point or Ian is doing it as a solid then. I remember vaguely following it, seemed like a neat thought experiment concept rather than a marketable product. I cared much more about the planning and development than anything else. A shame either way that it seems to have failed so hard- Karl borders on Lolcow, but I hate seeing people enterprise and fail. I'm glad Karl is basically severed from this point, I never cared for the match shooting and outside a handful of videos from InRange I find him intolerable. Again, don't like seeing him fail, but the only way he'd grow without Ian is if Karl wasn't Karl.

Good to hear. My comment on that mask was more about the product itself than him but I think anyone who would wear that thing in public deserves a corrective slap.

The WWSD rifle project is the most successful rifle presale project Brownells has ever done according to them. 1,100 rifles were produced. ~30,000 KP-15 receivers were shipped. I don’t know how you could objectively say that it failed. AR-15 sales are slow now as they always are after massive sales surges like happened in 2020 to 2021. There’s a lot of stuff in distribution and panic buyers are dumping stuff for fractions of what they paid for it.

I also don’t know what metric you’re using to say Karl is failing. He makes enough money that running InRange is all he needs to do. He doesn’t have a boss, he doesn’t have to report to an office every day. He shoots, travels, and makes videos.

Also, AMOGUS https://www.instagram.com/p/CNYBNDWLku7/?utm_medium=copy_link
 
Kentucky Ballistics did another video where he overloaded a rifle to see if it would explode; it did. This time, he used a bolt action. He manufactured a squib load in the barrel and then fired off an over pressure round, just for good measure. There wasn't much left of the rifle, I can tell you that much.
Looks like he may have found his new niche - I was annoyed when Iraqveteran1488 stopped doing torture tests so this could be good.

ETA: Well, the barrel can be reused. Probably.
 
Kentucky Ballistics did another video where he overloaded a rifle to see if it would explode; it did. This time, he used a bolt action. He manufactured a squib load in the barrel and then fired off an over pressure round, just for good measure. There wasn't much left of the rifle, I can tell you that much.
Glad to see he's found a niche but really not anything groundbreaking or interesting to see here, testing simulated squib loads has been done a billion times before.
 
The WWSD rifle project is the most successful rifle presale project Brownells has ever done according to them. 1,100 rifles were produced. ~30,000 KP-15 receivers were shipped. I don’t know how you could objectively say that it failed. AR-15 sales are slow now as they always are after massive sales surges like happened in 2020 to 2021. There’s a lot of stuff in distribution and panic buyers are dumping stuff for fractions of what they paid for it.

I also don’t know what metric you’re using to say Karl is failing. He makes enough money that running InRange is all he needs to do. He doesn’t have a boss, he doesn’t have to report to an office every day. He shoots, travels, and makes videos.

Also, AMOGUS https://www.instagram.com/p/CNYBNDWLku7/?utm_medium=copy_link
All I know about the rifle is that it shipped with major quality control issues. That to me is a failure. Maybe not for the company, but I'd be angry if I bought it and never purchase another product from whoever was attached to it again.

I consider Karl a failure because it seems like he's reached terminal decline. Maybe not in cash coming in right now, but he's pissed a lot of people off. Ian isn't a big name corporation but he obviously tries to be clean-cut. He doesn't have a resentful relationship with his audience. The fact that all his business partners have silently cut him out is telling. Even in a world where GloboHomo etc. controls most corporations you can't have business partners sperging out on social media, it's just bad business and a massive liability. They don't want to work with him from what I've seen, where Ian could easily transition to a decently paying gig at a company or museum somewhere or eke out a good life off book sales to a dedicated audience. Ian could be just as bad as Karl behind the scenes but we'd never know by how differently they present themselves.
 
All I know about the rifle is that it shipped with major quality control issues. That to me is a failure. Maybe not for the company, but I'd be angry if I bought it and never purchase another product from whoever was attached to it again.

And what issues are those exactly?

I’ll tell you exactly what I’ve dealt with;

Out of 1100 rifles, 8 have been returned for repair. A few of those turned out to be end users changing things that made them not run such as a compensator being installed upside down or a muzzle device being added that. increased back pressure.

One guy had a broken dust cover detent.

Breek has replaced some charging handles for people that had springs that are too weak

We’ve replaced Ambi mag catches for people, again the springs needed to be stronger .
Some people need to add tungsten weights to their SCSS to make the gun reliable with the ammo they are shooting per the instructions included with it.

We have the most accessible and fastest customer service in the industry. I answer emails nights and weekends. We cover all shipping costs.

Shooting 5-10 rounds through each rifle does not replicate what shooters are going to do with them, the variety of ammunition they’re going to use, or the parts they’re going to change and not tell you about until it shows back up. What it does do is show that the vast majority of them are going to work, and if someone has a problem later we will take care of it.
 
Point made, and since there's no escalation and he's just aiming to blow it up it's very underwhelming.
In all honestly if I was feeling less generous I'd be hesitant to even call this a test. There were no parameters, there was no goal (beyond gun go boom), there was no control, there was no cataloging or collating of data, there was no hypothesis (beyond gun go boom), there was no conclusion (beyond gun go boom).

It was basically just the Kentucky branch of the Demo Ranch franchise.
 
Karl mad again.

First question involves his epiphany on marksmanship not being as important as communication and small unit tactics in combat.
27:31 where he calls out bigots being mad about the WWSD being different. No, I'm not exaggerating.
Big oof. Tbh I don't dislike the WWSD beyond their hyper focusing on making the rifle as lightweight as possible when it's not really necessary to go as far as they did.

At least they didn't skeletonize the receiver so there's that.
 
Big oof. Tbh I don't dislike the WWSD beyond their hyper focusing on making the rifle as lightweight as possible when it's not really necessary to go as far as they did.

At least they didn't skeletonize the receiver so there's that.
I can't imagine that skeletonizing plastic would have much of a positive impact. I wonder how much weight you'd be saving by doing that. An ounce maybe?
 
I can't imagine that skeletonizing plastic would have much of a positive impact. I wonder how much weight you'd be saving by doing that. An ounce maybe?
I also highly doubt that the polymer structure would take kindly to being skeletonized in the first place but I'm not a material engineer.
 
And what issues are those exactly?

I’ll tell you exactly what I’ve dealt with;

Out of 1100 rifles, 8 have been returned for repair. A few of those turned out to be end users changing things that made them not run such as a compensator being installed upside down or a muzzle device being added that. increased back pressure.

One guy had a broken dust cover detent.

Breek has replaced some charging handles for people that had springs that are too weak

We’ve replaced Ambi mag catches for people, again the springs needed to be stronger .
Some people need to add tungsten weights to their SCSS to make the gun reliable with the ammo they are shooting per the instructions included with it.

We have the most accessible and fastest customer service in the industry. I answer emails nights and weekends. We cover all shipping costs.

Shooting 5-10 rounds through each rifle does not replicate what shooters are going to do with them, the variety of ammunition they’re going to use, or the parts they’re going to change and not tell you about until it shows back up. What it does do is show that the vast majority of them are going to work, and if someone has a problem later we will take care of it.
People posted way earlier in this thread the issues. You've brought up issues I've seen too so I'm not sure what your point is here.

Anyone in business can tell you that there's a big difference between what gets sent back to the manufacturer and what is actually wrong with a product. Most people don't go through the hassle unless the product is either entirely broken and unusable or if it is slightly defective in such a way that a useful feature in the overall product they rely on is not usable. Most people will accept and eat the cost of an inferior product and then bank the knowledge and go through some other provider or producer in future. Most of the pictures I saw were poor quality molds of the polymer. That's turned me off wanting to buy anything without a minimum of plastic in general.

If your claims about customer service is true, that's good. Even the best product can be failed by bad service and the worst product sold with good service. I hope most are happy with it and I hope that everyone involved at least made a comfortable profit. Ultimately you care about the product, which is more than can be said about a lot of businesses.
 

So in the latest chapter of "Ex-Mustache Cop Cody Garret's Midlife Crisis"; Donut's phasing out his police related content/main channel stuff (of which he says he's "tired of police stuff") and relocating full time to his secondary V-Log channel, which is now being rebranded "Operation Donut" and "is hiring people to make some cool new content" the types of which he won't describe in his video.

Also, he's done doing V-Logs every day for the time being as it broke him mentally and he was having panic attacks and nervous fits/chest pain. So he's also putting that on hold.

He also pulls the "and before you say "poor little youtuber making all of that money" to me" card, preempting people complaining about the new direction he's going to and him justifying it due to said "panic attacks".

So what is Cody going to do? Try his hand at writing/producing scripted material? Gun range stuff? Joining Donny O'Malley's circus full time as an actor? Or will he just make softcore Youtube porn?
 

So in the latest chapter of "Ex-Mustache Cop Cody Garret's Midlife Crisis"; Donut's phasing out his police related content/main channel stuff (of which he says he's "tired of police stuff") and relocating full time to his secondary V-Log channel, which is now being rebranded "Operation Donut" and "is hiring people to make some cool new content" the types of which he won't describe in his video.

Also, he's done doing V-Logs every day for the time being as it broke him mentally and he was having panic attacks and nervous fits/chest pain. So he's also putting that on hold.

He also pulls the "and before you say "poor little youtuber making all of that money" to me" card, preempting people complaining about the new direction he's going to and him justifying it due to said "panic attacks".

So what is Cody going to do? Try his hand at writing/producing scripted material? Gun range stuff? Joining Donny O'Malley's circus full time as an actor? Or will he just make softcore Youtube porn?
Him and Herrera look like shit since moving to Texas......
Maybe they would feel better if they lay off the drinking for flipping sake. If you go back and look at their videos you can see a slow white trash turn.
 
Last edited:
Back