General GunTuber thread

Why do you hate capitalism? Our day time events are about $300 with 160-180 shooters. This event is limited to 120 shooters with double the match staff. The costs for running it are higher and spread over less shooters.
I dont hate capitalism, I'm just saying that it's a really high considering shooting uspsa nationals is $100 a person (https://uspsa.org/nationals#:~:text=Entry fee for ALL guns,any gun during any session.). Granted they have more sponsors and are pistol focused but still, it is a national match with high levels of competition. This seems mostly as a way to have some novelty shoots and mostly paypig to meet your favorite guntuber. The 180 was pretty clearly broken but again it is also very likely that the RO didnt catch it, but you making excuses for them isnt helping the argument of there being no favoritism. If the response was along the lines of "oh didnt catch it and since nobody was flagged I can just let them know as a reminder".
I do think that GF is plesent enough in person and I encorage people that aren't usually the ones people think are gun owners to be ones that arm themselves, go to the range, or learn the basics of gun safety. But to me it sounds like you're overly defensive about them. I can see why you'd want to stand up for a person who probably gets undue criticism online.
 
I dont hate capitalism, I'm just saying that it's a really high considering shooting uspsa nationals is $100 a person (https://uspsa.org/nationals#:~:text=Entry fee for ALL guns,any gun during any session.). Granted they have more sponsors and are pistol focused but still, it is a national match with high levels of competition. This seems mostly as a way to have some novelty shoots and mostly paypig to meet your favorite guntuber. The 180 was pretty clearly broken but again it is also very likely that the RO didnt catch it, but you making excuses for them isnt helping the argument of there being no favoritism. If the response was along the lines of "oh didnt catch it and since nobody was flagged I can just let them know as a reminder".
I do think that GF is plesent enough in person and I encorage people that aren't usually the ones people think are gun owners to be ones that arm themselves, go to the range, or learn the basics of gun safety. But to me it sounds like you're overly defensive about them. I can see why you'd want to stand up for a person who probably gets undue criticism online.
Gonna throw one thing out there: USPSA's sponsors are probably way higher buck than *Brutality.
 
During that time several people were shot within the autonomous zone among other illegal activities of looting, racketeering, and vandalism.
Didn't yankee marshall also get his ass kicked in chaz during that time and the people beating didnt care that he was "on their side"

Gonna throw one thing out there: USPSA's sponsors are probably way higher buck than *Brutality.
almost certainly but that still seems rather extreme for the price of admission, especially considering that the range for the match wont be occupied during the daytime hours which is when most people would go to shoot. Then again I don't know how that particular range monetizes itself so that could be a nonfactor.
 
I dont hate capitalism, I'm just saying that it's a really high considering shooting uspsa nationals is $100 a person (https://uspsa.org/nationals#:~:text=Entry fee for ALL guns,any gun during any session.). Granted they have more sponsors and are pistol focused but still, it is a national match with high levels of competition. This seems mostly as a way to have some novelty shoots and mostly paypig to meet your favorite guntuber.
It's a match that requires a minimum of ~$4000 worth of gear to participate in, plus travel expenses for anyone who doesn't live near West Virginia. NODs, IR lasers, and thermal sights aren't cheap.

I don't think this match is worth it for the white light division, but for the thermal, passive NV and active NV divisions the price isn't an issue. Someone with $20k worth of night vision gear isn't going to balk at paying $500 to meet people with similar interests.
 
It's a match that requires a minimum of ~$4000 worth of gear to participate in, plus travel expenses for anyone who doesn't live near West Virginia. NODs, IR lasers, and thermal sights aren't cheap.

I don't think this match is worth it for the white light division, but for the thermal, passive NV and active NV divisions the price isn't an issue. Someone with $20k worth of night vision gear isn't going to balk at paying $500 to meet people with similar interests.
Fair enough inregards to what NV costs (Wilcox mounts being 500) the boutique price does seem more managable with people shooting those matches. Still dont get the $300 price for normal brutality matches that russel was saying. Gear can always be at a premium to inexpensive route and with other matches like uspsa the gear on some of the open guns is bonkers. There are probably other ways to meet people with similar interests for less (counterpoint those ways are more likely to have fbi undercover)
 
The 180 was pretty clearly broken but again it is also very likely that the RO didnt catch it, but you making excuses for them isnt helping the argument of there being no favoritism. If the response was along the lines of "oh didnt catch it and since nobody was flagged I can just let them know as a reminder".
I wholly agree.

There's a slippery slope when it comes to the 180 rule and the leniency that follows as it's in place for very good reasons - you do not know these people, you do not know their level of experience, and if someone does happen to cross it then hopefully they didn't fuck up any worse than just that. It's a standard to be set and a simple expectation, just as the basic rules of firearm safety are, and an RO missing it does not inspire confidence. I'm not shitting on Russ or whoever is running it, but paying attention is what keeps that standard from changing from "keep the gun pointed at least somewhat downrange" to eventually "don't point your rifle directly and with purpose at the person behind you".

This is not a training session, this is a game with scores. I don't want some goofy LARPer potentially and inadvertently sweeping me because he doesn't have full control of their rifle when grabbing it after exerting himself and looking the opposite direction. That's all I ask if I have to pay a shitload of money to run around in the desert shooting at trash.

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Didn't yankee marshall also get his ass kicked in chaz during that time and the people beating didnt care that he was "on their side"
lmfao what the fuck, I had no clue this happened. What a fucking FUDD FAGGOT.


Now on to what I was going to post originally.


Sig bros... we're puttin our junks on the line here... maybe glock was the way to go... its over... (:_(
 
I have a very simple answer for people who think our events are unsafe, show favoritism, or are too expensive: Don’t come.

Matches are a product. Vote with your dollars.

I disagree with all your premises, but I’m not going to convince you otherwise with the ideological agenda you have here.
I'm going to assume that ROs are volunteer positions. since if it was a paid position i would ask for better and I have no agenda, just pointed out something in a video i didnt think was getting mentioned and raised a concern of potential favoritism for influencers
 
incoming"i want <insert NFA/banned thing> and those are illegal" cope
Not a case of them being denied their rights with regards firearms, rather it's one of other individuals facilitating them. Tacticoolgf is obviously unhinged, I don't care how polite he is. Anyone that goes along with his insanity needs to share responsibility , when he eventually hurts himself or someone else.
 
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Holy shit guys someone check the temperature in hell. Lucas Botkins made a descent video with minimal cringe.
Ignoring the actual covered content, I thought that was an absolutely horrible video. Could easily have been 1/4 that length and covered the same breadth of information.

Also not properly lubing and cleaning a 308 rifle until it breaks its hilariously dumb. Regardless of what weapon system you use, if you want best performance and reliability you sure as hell better be cleaning and lubricating youre firearm after extended use. Its all fun just seeing how far you can push it on a long range day, but reality is basically no firearm is meant to go 1k+ rounds without cleaning and lubricating.
 
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