General GunTuber thread

[Blasterisk]

Don’t compliment him, it only feeds his ego.

Regarding C&Rsenal, so are Othais and Mae married or dating or just pals who like old guns or what? Or is that deliberately kept ambiguous?

Option D, real fans would have suffered through/enjoyed the 6hr yearly Q&A. Drachinefel to come out with an 18hr drydock soon I bet

 

[Only A Retard Sometimes]

 

[aZk]

Option D, real fans would have suffered through/enjoyed the 6hr yearly Q&A. Drachinefel to come out with an 18hr drydock soon I bet

I recognize the quality of their content but am only an occasional viewer.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Drachinefel to come out with an 18hr drydock soon I bet

I'd listen to that shit, Drach is like the Attenborough of online historical neckbeards.

 

[Trig.Point]

I'd listen to that shit, Drach is like the Attenborough of online historical neckbeards.

Drach actually respects his fans, and doesn't feel the need to snipe at them as a whole every time he gets a shitty commnet from any one arsehole. The Drydock videos are driven on viewer interaction which is a big reason why his channel has gotten so popular . The Chieftain is the same, and has modelled his Q&A on the drydock, they're not just a perk to throw the Patreons like Ian seems to view them.

Even C&A have started taking random shots at the viewers, particualarly Mae, I get that they value their privacy, but people are entitled to be curious. Particularly as because the channel has taken off and become more financially stable, they've been doing more and more jollies, such as with their podcast and just messing around with their friends on camera.

Mark Novak posted a shittagram video about people people pressuring to get their rifles repaired. And I watched it and thought, just send out a fucking template email to whoever is whinging. No body wants to watch you whinge and then give you money.

It's happening with a lot of the military history YouTubers as well, The guy that runs military history visualized brought on a canadian grad student to help with the channel, and the guy is a complete fucking goon on twitter. Mainly arguing with fans of the channel. The guy that runs Miliatry Aviation history has gone the same way (but he's german so what do you expect).

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

I give Ian an alibi when it comes to his Patreon-centric Q&A; he's got God-tier money (and other support) coming in from that; not YouTube anymore. And iirc he was one of the first few to adopt Patreon, which gives him quite a few more "legacy" supporters who've actually paid to have their comments read, rather than by raffle as on other YT channels. And given the differences in obtaining subject matter, I figure FW's operating expenses are quite a bit higher than most (excepting Demo Ranch, because gunbros are retarded).

Also, r.e. Novak: afaik, they did put out a boilerplate email to waiting customers regarding increased wait times for certain services; but it seems a certain few have taken umbrage at an already long turnaround time for piddly shit, and have made rumblings about a nuclear option on social media. Bless Mark's crusty old heart; I understand wanting to snark back at rude customers, but goddamn.... just sit down and let someone else field the clown balls.

 

[Blasterisk]

Drach actually respects his fans, and doesn't feel the need to snipe at them as a whole every time he gets a shitty commnet from any one arsehole. The Drydock videos are driven on viewer interaction which is a big reason why his channel has gotten so popular . The Chieftain is the same, and has modelled his Q&A on the drydock, they're not just a perk to throw the Patreons like Ian seems to view them.

Even C&A have started taking random shots at the viewers, particualarly Mae, I get that they value their privacy, but people are entitled to be curious. Particularly as because the podcast has taken off and become more financially stable, they've been doing more and more jollies, such as with their podcast and just messing around with their friends on camera.

Mark Novak posted a shittagram video about people people pressuring to get their rifles repaired. And I watched it and thought, just send out a fucking template email to whoever is whinging. No body wants to watch you whinge and then give you money.

It's happening with a lot of the military history YouTubers as well, The guy that runs military history visualized brought on a canadian grad student to help with the channel, and the guy is a complete fucking goon on twitter. Mainly arguing with fans of the channel. The guy that runs Miliatry Aviation history has gone the same way (but he's german so what do you expect).

Counterpoint: There's better things to do than field questions all day from the idiots on the internet. It seems like half of Drach's recent Drydocks are him telling people where he already covered a topic, and I kinda wish he'd truncate those sections somewhat.

 

[Trig.Point]

Counterpoint: There's better things to do than field questions all day from the idiots on the internet. It seems like half of Drach's recent Drydocks are him telling people where he already covered a topic, and I kinda wish he'd truncate those sections somewhat.

This is true, but in a way I imagine it helps the channel, because he gets to direct people back to old content without seeming self serving. I don't mind because there's always timestamps, and I tend to skip through large chunks.

His voyage of the Dammed videos are just great content, even if you disagree with some of his takes, there's an emotional heart to them, particularly the second video where everything finally goes to Hell for Russia.

He obviously likes his fans, kind of like the Chieftain. Some of the rest of the military history YouTubers though, particularly the ones that got big in the last few years seem to be too much in the r/askhistorians mindset, where people should have to state their credentials before they're entitled to question them.

in the second part of C&Rsenals Q and A video there was an interesting part where Othias mentioned that lots of Museums have approached him for help with their online presence (probably because they realise how much money C&Rsenals, Forgotten weapons etc are making). I kind of respect the way that he says outright, that none of these museums ever asked to hire him. Mae the fucking Thot that she is didn't pick up on it and just pushed onto the next question. It was interesting to see that Othias accepts that the mainstream academic community (at least in the US) aren't going to be opening any doors for him.

 

[HelpingNoone]

I give Ian an alibi when it comes to his Patreon-centric Q&A; he's got God-tier money (and other support) coming in from that; not YouTube anymore.

Not to get off topic with a non guntoober but AvE is on another level of God-tier money from Pateron.
He started to hide his subscriber and Patreon count once it came out that he was probably making $200,000 EVERY MONTH.

When he moved into his new shop he was complaining about the "bank owning his CNC". Dude became a millionaire over night and was pretending he got a 60k loan for his HAAS. Sure...

Yeah he's still got a "dirty bench" where he reviews tools but i'm literally distracted by the echo of what is probably a huge shop. It doesn't have the quaintness of his reviews where it was just some guy in a garage. I feel like he's desperately trying to keep up the image of just a "blue collar dude". I can definitely see him throwing a couple of tools here and there or smearing some grease around despite having a completely clear table right next to his "set".

I can't watch is stuff anymore. Now every fucktard on the internet talks about "schmoo" and "scookum" that I can't stand it from the horses mouth anymore.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Truly the only good guntuber left is Mark Serbu who clearly doesn't give a shit about anything anymore.

 

[HelpingNoone]

Also, r.e. Novak: afaik, they did put out a boilerplate email to waiting customers regarding increased wait times for certain services; but it seems a certain few have taken umbrage at an already long turnaround time for piddly shit, and have made rumblings about a nuclear option on social media. Bless Mark's crusty old heart; I understand wanting to snark back at rude customers, but goddamn.... just sit down and let someone else field the clown balls.

Wow. Mark has a lot of contempt for his success. How about get fucking apprentice? He can do all the little "piddly" jobs people bother seem to bother him with.

I'm still fairly young but realize probably the only people that will remember me are the guys I mentor, pass my tools down to, or teach some trick that sticks in their brain the rest of their lives. He teaches internet strangers but it's different being in a shop with someone for 8 hours.

Getting my mentors' tool chests when they retired felt like graduating, especially when I didn't goto trade school.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

How about get fucking apprentice? He can do all the little "piddly" jobs people bother seem to bother him with.

He had or has an apprentice(through C&Rsenal's promotion no less) but apparently with the YouTube fame people went to him with absolutely everything and killed his scheduling. I wouldn't be surprised if he either dropped him or doesn't trust him with anything beyond loosening or tightening screws.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Wow. Mark has a lot of contempt for his success. How about get fucking apprentice? He can do all the little "piddly" jobs people bother seem to bother him with.

I'm still fairly young but realize probably the only people that will remember me are the guys I mentor, pass my tools down to, or teach some trick that sticks in their brain the rest of their lives.

Yup, you gotta be young to have rosy glasses like that. A proper gunsmith (or any master tradesman) Mark's age will have had at least half a dozen apprentices who quit when they didn't turn over the shop secrets & keys after 5 years.

Never mind one with as much sudden exposure as Novak has gotten, considering how long he's been in business.

Getting my mentors' tool chests when they retired felt like graduating, especially when I didn't goto trade school.

If that's your gold-star reward for entering a trade, I feel sorry for your future customers.

 

[Trig.Point]

Yup, you gotta be young to have rosy glasses like that. A proper gunsmith (or any master tradesman) Mark's age will have had at least half a dozen apprentices who quit when they didn't turn over the shop secrets & keys after 5 years.

Never mind one with as much sudden exposure as Novak has gotten, considering how long he's been in business.

If that's your gold-star reward for entering a trade, I feel sorry for your future customers.

Didn't he do a full career as a navy submariner which would be 20+ years.

Also I remember in one of his videos he described doing an elevator repair job so I'm not sure how long he's been working as a full time gunsmith.

One hint would be anyone working fulltime at a business doesn't typically put videos on YouTube calling his customers retards (even if they are). Another would be that people relatively new to business, are prone to not refusing work, even when they should.

If any tradesmen accepts a piece of equipment into their workshop for repair, they kind of have to expect the owners wanting updates. If he said no fuck it I'm too busy, and just refused that would be different.

If a mechanic had your car in his garage for months, and the only update you got was a boiler plate email, and a YouTube video stating he never wanted to fix your car in the first place.. how would you feel?

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Didn't he do a full career as a navy submariner which would be 20+ years.

Also I remember in one of his videos he described doing an elevator repair job so I'm not sure how long he's been working as a full time gunsmith.

One hint would be anyone working fulltime at a business doesn't typically put videos on YouTube calling his customers retards (even if they are). Another would be that people relatively new to business, are prone to not refusing work, even when they should.

If any tradesmen accepts a piece of equipment into their workshop for repair, they kind of have to expect the owners wanting updates. If he said no fuck it I'm too busy, and just refused that would be different.

If a mechanic had your car in his garage for months, and the only update you got was a boiler plate email, and a YouTube video stating he never wanted to fix your car in the first place.. how would you feel?

Gunsmiths and nukes are an arcane breed; technical wizards they may be, but I never said they were socially smart.

Also..... a mistake most make when approaching a gunsmith is thinking of them like a car mechanic; except for lego-gun builders, their business model is completely different.

Then again.... all the truly skilled gunsmiths I knew are dead now, so maybe things have changed in the past 10 years.

 

[HelpingNoone]

Yup, you gotta be young to have rosy glasses like that. A proper gunsmith (or any master tradesman) Mark's age will have had at least half a dozen apprentices who quit when they didn't turn over the shop secrets & keys after 5 years.

Never mind one with as much sudden exposure as Novak has gotten, considering how long he's been in business.

If that's your gold-star reward for entering a trade, I feel sorry for your future customers.

After 10 years working under someone yeah my mentor giving me the things he fed his family with is a big reward.

Did some young guy come in and replace you in your shop, cause it seems you have contempt to your youngers.


You can have all the skills you want, but if you have to start making videos complaining about being too busy; either hire someone or stop making videos....it didn't take business school for me to learn that....

 

[Polyboros2]

https://youtu.be/3ba-TyDyKZ4?t=772

Karl did not make it to Finnish Brutality, he was a good boy in his Covid Cuck Shed and not sour pussing at everyone there not having a mask in sight.

 

[Uranus Pink]

This is true, but in a way I imagine it helps the channel, because he gets to direct people back to old content without seeming self serving. I don't mind because there's always timestamps, and I tend to skip through large chunks.

His voyage of the Dammed videos are just great content, even if you disagree with some of his takes, there's an emotional heart to them, particularly the second video where everything finally goes to Hell for Russia.

He obviously likes his fans, kind of like the Chieftain. Some of the rest of the military history YouTubers though, particularly the ones that got big .

Drach does take constructive criticism well on his videos. Especially when he makes an error and get gently called out on it in the comments section.

 

[vulg]

My main problem with Atun-Shei and people who make similar arguments trying to dunk on the south, is that they tend to lack any sense of humanity. Little respect is given to the cultural consequences of the south fighting the most horrific industrial war that America had seen, and fighting it in their own back yard.

You can make an academic or snarky moral argument about how much worse the evils of slavery and Jim Crow were, and you can nitpick about the historical details that pro-Confederacy types tend to fixate on as a coping mechanism, but people tend to make the mistake of not remembering that they’re usually talking to people whose views were, generations ago, shaped by a culture who fought and died and suffered personally. They wanted those sacrifices to mean something, they typically understand that slavery is wrong, but they look at their ancestors and want to find some way to justify the suffering and celebrate the quality human traits where they can be found. Stonewall Jackson isn’t revered for what he fought for, but how he fought.

I’ve noticed this when visiting parts of the south that paid a direct toll for the war, the confederate iconography tends to be more open and more part of the culture. You can try to shame them all you want from a modern perspective of presentism, but you’re not going to win any hearts and minds if you ignore the fact that their culture took root back when there were still people around who had their farms burned, their daughters raped and their sons murdered. A decade of harsh winters starving in Shenandoah or Savannah, experienced first hand, is going to shape the post-war culture and if you try to engage with people from those cultures without acknowledging that, then you’re doing it more for your own sense of self-superiority than you are for any real attempt to find common ground or change people’s minds. That very real, very human pain tends to supersede a the more distant morality of overall conflict.

That plus when you strip away the fact that now people understand that slavery and racism are fucking wrong, the Civil war becomes a narrative of rural life versus urban imperialism. Can you take a wild fucking guess as to why that message might still resonate with people today, oh educated urbanites constantly showing your disdain and ridiculing rural culture? And that’s when you’re not actively trying to snuff it out.

People like Atun who build their whole historically narrative about the Civil War based on a modern sense of empathy for the very real suffering of the slaves and post-war African American struggles ironically tend to show little empathy for the people who actually fought it, and who are degraded and dismissed as racists for trying to find some modern angle to justify what they see as heroism from people with whom they share a culture.

I've had Atun Shei pop up in my recommended a few times - one of the only videos of his I watched was

The Best Civil War Movie from the Southern Perspective​

and he approaches it with a pretty sympathetic view to Southerners despite most of his content arguing against Confederate apologetics.

I saw him in another video where he kept on sucking ContraPoints dick and claimed that they were the main inspiration behind his channel. Which is very funny and gay.

 

[Ima Spedonym2]

Remember this little twerp?
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watching people get completely assblasted when someone obv trolled their internet gun grandpa for the hits was hilarious, tbh