General Wrestling Discussion

[Drive She Said]

I'm really looking forward to tomorrow. I know there's things you can criticize about the build this year, but the PLE's almost always deliver in this era, I'm gonna order some Papa John's and have my bro over on Saturday and we're going to have a good time.

I know there's a lot of talk about Jey Uso not having the physical ability to match his charisma, but I thought their match at Saturday Night's Main Event was really great despite that, and I think this one will be great too. I'm also actually really looking forward to the women's tag match. Lyra and Bayley were really entertaining in that gauntlet match, and Liv and Raquel winning the titles from Bianca and Naomi was one of the best TV matches WWE's had so far this year, so this one should be good too. And of course the two main events have a lot of interest.

I think this will be one of those shows where people will be surprised by how good it is.

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

I know there's a lot of talk about Jey Uso not having the physical ability to match his charisma, but I thought their match at Saturday Night's Main Event was really great despite that

apparently Gunther vs Jey Uso is going to be the first match which I find to be a bad idea, I always hate when they open the show with a World Title match, I get wanting to spread out the bigger matches but still, thats really my only glaring issue going into tomorrow.

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

Just a reminder that Cena was before he even got on the main roster was groomed to be their next ten year main eventer so yeah of course he loves Vince as much as loves ice cream.

 

[Drive She Said]

apparently Gunther vs Jey Uso is going to be the first match which I find to be a bad idea, I always hate when they open the show with a World Title match, I get wanting to spread out the bigger matches but still, thats really my only glaring issue going into tomorrow.

Without knowing exactly how all the matches are going to play out tomorrow, I would say just from looking at the card that LA Knight vs Jacob Fatu would be a good opener.

 

[Kermit the Frog]

Gunther vs Jey going on first makes sense because Jey winning will put the fans in a good mood and that energy will hopefully carry over to the next matches on the card that aren't as important. Night one's card isn't all that impressive, so they need to start out hot.

 

[Hennimore]

I shoot hope Seethe Tarpinis suffers a career-ending and potentially life-threatening injury.

This but Iyo.

 

[Jack Garland]

Gunther vs Jey going on first makes sense because Jey winning will put the fans in a good mood and that energy will hopefully carry over to the next matches on the card that aren't as important. Night one's card isn't all that impressive, so they need to start out hot.

Gotta leave time for IT'S JUST ME UCE, DAY ONE ISH JUST ME UCE!

 

[Journoscum]

Gunther vs Jey going on first makes sense because Jey winning will put the fans in a good mood and that energy will hopefully carry over to the next matches on the card that aren't as important. Night one's card isn't all that impressive, so they need to start out hot.

This is probably a cope, but I still think yeetman isn't getting a great reaction at Mania. It's the one WWE show that still is smark heavy, so I am hoping a live crowd finally craps on this shitter.

I unironically want Gunther to beat him in 18-seconds like they did with Danielson/Sheamus.

 

[Fuck Fags I'm A Homophobe]

This is probably a cope, but I still think yeetman isn't getting a great reaction at Mania. It's the one WWE show that still is smark heavy, so I am hoping a live crowd finally craps on this shitter.

I unironically want Gunther to beat him in 18-seconds like they did with Danielson/Sheamus.

I mean, if it was NYC or Chicago, I could see it. but Vegas was never a wrestling town. it's going to be rich fans going.

 

[Kermit the Frog]

This is probably a cope, but I still think yeetman isn't getting a great reaction at Mania. It's the one WWE show that still is smark heavy, so I am hoping a live crowd finally craps on this shitter.

I unironically want Gunther to beat him in 18-seconds like they did with Danielson/Sheamus.

It's definitely a cope lol. The whole stadium is going to be YEETing. I don't want Jey to win the title, either, there were better options available and I don't like the fact that Gunther has been shoehorned into the "bad guy to beat at Mania" role. The only thing that would get the crowd to turn against Jey is if the match sucks, and everybody knows that would be Jey's fault because Gunther has been so consistent.

 

[Fuck Fags I'm A Homophobe]

So, for the non wrestling/casual fans out there scrolling this thread, WrestleMania weekend is independent wrestling heaven. GCW is running "The Collective" to help a lot of the larger indies/Japan promotions like DDT, TJPW, etc, as well as run their local events/Janela's and Barnett's events.

That's why you see Kidd Bandit, or any indie wrestler that isn't signed by WWE or AEW taking 2-3+ matches and 3-4 appearances through merch signings, autographs, etc in 4 days, with some people getting 6+ matches in the same span (I think a lot of joshi's and WWE ID people are doing that, payments are really good this weekend so maximize value and get tape out there).

If you want to watch anything GOOD, I know both BloodSport was really great if you like MMA (Josh barnett's thing, think fake MMA but with a pro wrestling style) and tonight, Joey Janela’s Spring Break 9 at 10 pm est is pretty decent. If your willing to stay up till 3 am EST, Heels Have Eyes, WestSide Gunns promotion is pretty good as well. and then if you want LolCow's galore, Effy's Big Gay Brunch is on at 2 PM est Saturday.

Also, apparently Joey is doing 2 nights of his spring break show? might be good. otherwise, NXT Stand and Deliver starts at 12 EST, then Countdown starts at 4 pm, then Night 1 starts at 7 pm.

 

[Drive She Said]

If you want to watch anything GOOD, I know both BloodSport was really great if you like MMA (Josh barnett's thing, think fake MMA but with a pro wrestling style)

Bloodsport is really cool now because it's the only place you can see WWE wrestlers with people they'd never be in the ring with in any other circumstance. I haven't watched it yet but I'll be checking it out for sure.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

So, for the non wrestling/casual fans out there scrolling this thread, WrestleMania weekend is independent wrestling heaven. GCW is running "The Collective" to help a lot of the larger indies/Japan promotions like DDT, TJPW, etc, as well as run their local events/Janela's and Barnett's events.

That's why you see Kidd Bandit, or any indie wrestler that isn't signed by WWE or AEW taking 2-3+ matches and 3-4 appearances through merch signings, autographs, etc in 4 days, with some people getting 6+ matches in the same span (I think a lot of joshi's and WWE ID people are doing that, payments are really good this weekend so maximize value and get tape out there).

If you want to watch anything GOOD, I know both BloodSport was really great if you like MMA (Josh barnett's thing, think fake MMA but with a pro wrestling style) and tonight, Joey Janela’s Spring Break 9 at 10 pm est is pretty decent. If your willing to stay up till 3 am EST, Heels Have Eyes, WestSide Gunns promotion is pretty good as well. and then if you want LolCow's galore, Effy's Big Gay Brunch is on at 2 PM est Saturday.

Also, apparently Joey is doing 2 nights of his spring break show? might be good. otherwise, NXT Stand and Deliver starts at 12 EST, then Countdown starts at 4 pm, then Night 1 starts at 7 pm.

yeah if you're not into the greater wrassle scene it's hard to get exactly how batshit the things that happen over a Mania weekend can get as far as talent from around the globe working matches together from many generations
like one year I recall... forget if it was three way or a trios, but the focus was the "guys who spit mist" theme of Penta (he spit mist at this point sometimes), Tajiri, and Great Muta
or the time Kaiju Big Battel did a crossover show with... I think it was DDT? one of the similarly goofy Japanese promotions
normally the idea that you could get a roster from either company across the pacific, book a venue, and sell tickets to two VERY niche companies doing a crossover would be beyond stupid
but, because it's mania weekend, there's basically everybody and a huge crowd going nuts for it

 

[Drive She Said]

Based WWE bringing everyone together (except a certain pissant company)

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Some threads ago after the Dark Side episode on Vader, some folks were taking Vader to task for how he stiffed and bullied other wrestlers. Should we do the same for Bruiser Brody? I am sorry for what happened and resent Invader 1 for what he did especially the bullshit trial but there is no denying Brody himself overstepped what he was supposed to do and went out of his way to bully others, just listen to what Harley Race said:

Then again Race was a drunk dick so take what you will

 

[Well Intentioned]

E: That sort of bullying/paying your dues shit is stupid and Brody definitely fit the bill of one of those guys. That said, it was part of the culture at the time due to wrestling's carny roots. Working territories guys would have to look after themselves so I can't really fault them or condemn that sort of shit. Not really an issue anymore given how commodified pro wrestling has become.

I recall online chatter using "Trips" and not in the "check `em" sense around the Reign Of Terror

I swear this was something they were trying to do onscreen for like 10 seconds back in/around the Evolution days, although I might be going nuts.

 

[cypocryphy]

I'm not defending Invader either, but didn't Brody beat him up in front of an entire locker room not long after Invader's daughter died or something? Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[I.B. Niggin]

Saw some of the ZSJ/Gresham match from Bloodsport and I thought it was kind of the drizzling shits. For something that's supposed to look like a worked shoot, strikes were awfully soft looking. UWF-i and Battlarts this is not.

I think ZSJ is kind of overrated in the first place. I appreciate the variance of holds but what's always bothered me about his work is how quick he transitions to other holds. I just wish he would work on holds a little longer before switching to another, really sell that you're actually working a joint instead of showing off how cool your moves are.

 

[Halloween23]

I don't like Jey but its hilarious to me that he might meme himself to a world title by using stupid internet zoomer slang from a decade ago.

 

[Kermit the Frog]

Some threads ago after the Dark Side episode on Vader, some folks were taking Vader to task for how he stiffed and bullied other wrestlers. Should we do the same for Bruiser Brody? I am sorry for what happened and resent Invader 1 for what he did especially the bullshit trial but there is no denying Brody himself overstepped what he was supposed to do and went out of his way to bully others, just listen to what Harley Race said:

Then again Race was a drunk dick so take what you will

Probably should have known better than to start shit in Puerto Rico when it had a notorious reputation and was considered the most dangerous place to wrestle due to the violence. The fans brought knives and regularly tried to stab wrestlers, and in return the wrestlers brought knives to defend themselves. Bruiser obviously didn't deserve to be murdered, but he never knew how to tone it down and it's no surprise that he did get stabbed.