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Germany's elite force 'to be partially disbanded'

The KSK commando force has been criticised for right-wing extremism in its ranks.

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Germany's defence minister says she has ordered the partial dissolution of the elite KSK commando force, which has come under growing criticism over right-wing extremism in its ranks.

Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer told a newspaper it had become partly independent of the chain of command.

In May, police seized explosives and weapons at the home of a KSK soldier.

In January, military intelligence said there were almost 600 suspected far-right supporters in the army last year.

They also said the KSK (Special Forces Command) was seen as a particular problem, with 20 members of the elite force suspected of right-wing extremism.

The KSK had "become partially independent" from the chain of command, with a "toxic leadership culture", Ms Kramp-Karrenbauer told the Süddeutsche Zeitung newspaper.

The minister set up a working group in May to examine the problem, and the group presented a report on its findings on Tuesday.

The KSK "cannot continue to exist in its current form" and must be "better integrated into the Bundeswehr [German army]", said the report, seen by the AFP news agency.

One of the force's four companies, where extremism is said to be the most rife, will be dissolved and not replaced, the minister said.

"Anyone who turns out to be a right-wing extremist has no place in the Bundeswehr and must leave it," she told German radio.

KSK operations will be moved to other units as far as possible, and the force will not take part in international exercises and missions until further notice.

Ms Kramp-Karrenbauer said the latest findings - including the disappearance of 48,000 rounds of ammunition and 62kg (137lb) of explosives - were "disturbing" and "alarming".

An internal investigation is due to determine whether those items were stolen or are missing due to sloppy bookkeeping.

The unit was founded in 1996, and has some 1,000 soldiers trained for crisis situations such as freeing hostages abroad, which had not been possible until then without assistance from other countries' forces.

The military's problem with far-right supporters emerged in 2017.

Inspections were ordered on all military barracks when Nazi-era memorabilia was found at two of them. Many of those suspected of far-right links are thought to be sympathetic to Germany's main opposition AfD party.

 

[Immortal Technique]

To be honest this is good. As long as it's like that there will probably be no continent-wide war in Europe.

Every country loves the warming embrace of imperialism of protection when they no longer have to pay for their military but still, for whatever reason, try to poke holes in the rented umbrella protecting them. Thinking, it's going to be there forever.

 

[PorkLord]

Alt-right in this context is probably just the basic psychology of the warrior. Tight-knit groups like that don't have any love lost for those who are unwilling or unable to pull their weight. This transfers over to their world views writ large.

More importantly Germany cemented their decline to irrelevancy. Fifth generation warfare is the realm of information and small unit special operations. Unless they reconstitute under a new "brand" then there are no real winners here.

 

[Sped Xing]

Unless they reconstitute under a new "brand" then there are no real winners here.

Have you forgotten the Muslims? They're tired of winning.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Germany is for Woke Leftism what Iran is for Shia Islam, so I can't say I'm too surprised by this article

Most of Western Europe is a lost cause, but Germany and Sweden are egregiously woke even by Eurotrash standards. The UK is also pretty cucked despite Brexit, but what else do you expect from the homeland of the Eternal Anglo?

Really, the only European countries I have any hope for are Hungary, Poland, and the Eastern European countries. Maybe Italy as well if it can somehow do the impossible and leave the EU like the UK did.

When will Trump pull out all the troops to let it collapse is necessary.

 

[Wilhelm Bittrich]

So what will happen to the commandos? Will they get new military positions with same or higher pay grade? Or will they be unemployed and pissed?

Most likely the latter. It's heartbreaking to see the decline from a Force that once had 13 Divisions, numerous squadrons and a Navy worth its name to a clown show with at least one troon larping as LtCol (Oberstleutnant) and mandatory diversity seminars.
Thank god I served in the 1980's, nowadays I wouldn't even think about enlisting.
Also worth mentioning that back then there were no alt-right tendencies, it was called "Ordentliche Einstellung der Mann" (engl: Proper attitude, that man)

 

[Übertroon]

The weird part is how they didn't have enough evidence to even arrest, let alone convict any of the conspirators, yet they went to the press with it. That's like trumpeting your own incompetence from the rooftops if everything alleged is true. They're basically going "hey guys, there are right-wing terrorists we trained to be experts in small-arms tactics running around, and we caught exactly zero of them!". Oh yeah, and their alleged target is still doing just fine, a couple years later.

My point is that it sounds like the story may have been exaggerated. If everything alleged was true, I'd expect at least more charges, firings, etc. Oh, and some actual evidence.

100% this was a bunch of guys getting drunk and shittalking about how when the system collapses they'll hang every traitor, and then some pansy reported them which began a investigation

 

[murdered meat bag]

Well shit. At least those commados aren't a bunch of soymilk-drinking faggots.

I remember reading about the Bundeswehr involvement in the Iraq War, and it was just sad.
Whenever shit hit the fan, the Burgers would investigate with most of the other NATO participants supporting them, while the Sauerkrauts hid in their secure bunkers and wouldn't let anyone in, be it friend or foe.
Older brother of a buddy of mine is serving in our army, ground troops. He was building a house for his family around then, so he needed the money and deployed. Stated "the Germans always disappeared when the bullets started flying".

Contrast this with the french who're ready to fight when the shooting starts.

 

[Unassuming Local Guy]

Wow, 600 maybe alt-right supporters in the German army. Which, assuming they don't even mean the entire armed forces, puts their numbers at just under one percent at most. This is worthy of international news articles and sweeping, knee jerk changes for sure.

 

[F/lying Frankenstein]

An unbelievable waste.
I mean it. Although I don't really consider Germany to be a relevant military force in today's Europe, the world could always need some more capable military commandos units: They do the brunt of surgical strikes in foreign lands and limit civilian casualties when they act. Far better than bombs, artillery, or some missiles, as far as I'm concerned.

I'm hoping that some country will recognize their skill and covertly recruit some of them, if not all of them, rather than leaving trained commandos without a cause and with a lot of resentment against their own country, which seems like a bad idea.

 

[Noideawhattopick]

An unbelievable waste.
I mean it. Although I don't really consider Germany to be a relevant military force in today's Europe, the world could always need some more capable military commandos units: They do the brunt of surgical strikes in foreign lands and limit civilian casualties when they act. Far better than bombs, artillery, or some missiles, as far as I'm concerned.

I'm hoping that some country will recognize their skill and covertly recruit some of them, if not all of them, rather than leaving trained commandos without a cause and with a lot of resentment against their own country, which seems like a bad idea.

PMCs will ring their doorbell like a girlscout who hasn't met her cookie selling goal yet.

 

[Cryogonal]

Oh no, what will the German alt right do now that they cant fail to make bombs or shoot up kebab shops

 

[Wilhelm Bittrich]

PMCs will ring their doorbell like a girlscout who hasn't met her cookie selling goal yet.

I think I've already an idea at which PMC some most likely will end up.

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

Germany is for Woke Leftism what Iran is for Shia Islam, so I can't say I'm too surprised by this article

Most of Western Europe is a lost cause, but Germany and Sweden are egregiously woke even by Eurotrash standards. The UK is also pretty cucked despite Brexit, but what else do you expect from the homeland of the Eternal Anglo?

Really, the only European countries I have any hope for are Hungary, Poland, and the Eastern European countries. Maybe Italy as well if it can somehow do the impossible and leave the EU like the UK did.

Curious that Trump is backing the three seas initiative.

 

[byuu]

Alt-right in this context is probably just the basic psychology of the warrior. Tight-knit groups like that don't have any love lost for those who are unwilling or unable to pull their weight. This transfers over to their world views writ large.

More importantly Germany cemented their decline to irrelevancy. Fifth generation warfare is the realm of information and small unit special operations. Unless they reconstitute under a new "brand" then there are no real winners here.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's lots of far-right types in the German military.
You have to be kind of a weirdo to want to join it.
It's horribly mismanaged, ineffectual, and no one gives a shit about the wars the US wants to drag them into so they won't even get a "thank you for your service".

And to top it all of they don't even get sexy uniforms:

This shit won't make any pussy wet.

 

[Ahriman]

Hah, "disbanded".

Disenfranchised German soldiers... I wonder what will happen next.

 

[Stoneheart]

I remember reading about the Bundeswehr involvement in the Iraq War, and it was just sad.
Whenever shit hit the fan, the Burgers would investigate with most of the other NATO participants supporting them, while the Sauerkrauts hid in their secure bunkers and wouldn't let anyone in, be it friend or foe.

Germany didnt fight in iraq...



some company will be very lucky... 20 of the worlds best elite soldiers looking for work. t

 

[Boris Blank's glass eye]

Germany didnt fight in iraq...

Must have been Afghanistan, then. Sorry for mixing them up, it's been a long time, and both are Middle-Eastern shitholes torn by war for decades.

 

[Pixy]

just another step towards declawing the german army
these efforts have been going on for decades, it's not surprising they'd axe the special forces sooner or later

And this time it's willingly!

 

[JimmyNugget]

I hope nobody wanted any more German operators in R6 Siege because there went there chances.

 

[Basil II]

Germany is for Woke Leftism what Iran is for Shia Islam, so I can't say I'm too surprised by this article

Most of Western Europe is a lost cause, but Germany and Sweden are egregiously woke even by Eurotrash standards. The UK is also pretty cucked despite Brexit, but what else do you expect from the homeland of the Eternal Anglo?

Really, the only European countries I have any hope for are Hungary, Poland, and the Eastern European countries. Maybe Italy as well if it can somehow do the impossible and leave the EU like the UK did.

Honestly I'd say UK, France, Germany, and Sweden are equally cucked.