EU Germany floats return to conscription if volunteer plan fails - Berlin aims to more than double army reserves in response to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine

Germany floats return to conscription if volunteer plan fails
Financial Times (archive.ph)
By Laura Pitel
2025-06-23 18:00:42GMT

Germany will bring back conscription to boost its armed forces if a plan to use volunteers fails to deliver enough recruits, the country’s defence minister has said.

Boris Pistorius said he would begin with a voluntary model to attract young people, supporting the Bundeswehr’s goal of more than doubling its reserve forces in response to Vladimir Putin’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

But he said Berlin would not shy away from a return to full conscription if the armed forces had spare training capacity — and would include such a provision in a bill that will be presented to parliament after the summer break.

“My goal is that the law contains two regulations,” he told German broadcaster ARD, referring to a voluntary option and a compulsory one. The latter, he said, would have to be activated “if the numbers are not sufficient”.

The fallback option would avoid a whole new legislative process if the voluntary enlistment numbers fall short. “We don’t have time for that,” he said. “If we have a mechanism that is already in place, then it won’t be a problem.”

Germany’s chancellor Friedrich Merz has said that he wants his country to have the “strongest conventional army in Europe”, vowing to play a greater role in the continent’s defence.

Merz scrapped Germany’s strict government debt rules to allow unlimited borrowing for defence spending after his victory in February’s parliamentary elections. He aims to overhaul the country’s long-neglected armed forces in response to fears of Russian aggression.

With money no longer a problem, the biggest issue confronting military planners is personnel shortages. Senior defence officials say that the armed forces must expand to include about 80,000 more professional soldiers over the next 10 years to meet Germany’s Nato commitments.

The country also needs to increase its number of active reservists who can be called upon in times of crisis, with the figure rising from about 60,000 today to 200,000 by the end of the decade.

Germany, where young people were compelled until 2011 to either do military service or a civilian alternative, has lost contact with many former conscripts who could serve as reservists due to data protection issues.

Pistorius told ARD that the situation was a “scandal” because “it means that in an emergency, ie if we were attacked, we could not call up our reservists because we don’t have their names or addresses”.

He said Germany was working to rebuild its reserves, starting with asking young people turning 18 to complete a survey about their willingness to do voluntary military training and then continue the commitment by being a part of the reserves. The scheme is expected to initially accept 5,000 people a year.

Senior figures in Merz’s Christian Democrats have criticised the plan. They argue Germany needs compulsory enlistment immediately to confront the security challenges facing Europe.

But Pistorius has said the military does not yet have the barracks and manpower to train hundreds of thousands of young conscripts each year.

Instead, he has insisted on following a voluntary model inspired by a similar system in Sweden. Germany would simultaneously build up its training facilities, he said, and would return to conscription if there was spare capacity.

At the same time, Pistorius said, the Bundeswehr would strive to recruit more professional soldiers to increase the standing army from about 183,000 people to about 260,000 by 2035 as part of its Nato targets.

“We have to do that by improving attractiveness, pay and other things,” he said.
 
No one is going to die for globohomo. Men might join for money if the only alternative is living in a cardboard box and eating dirt.

Marxist nations fucked themselves by declaring all in-grouping and "othering" others a crime, and all violence and aggression to be "toxic masculinity". Well, folks, toxic masculinity is the only thing that has ever defended a country's borders or imposed its will on an enemy country, so you'd better grit your teeth and start instilling heroic virtues in your men, or prepare to get fucked by armies full of Ivans. I'm sure the Russians would love to have another go at your country.
 
Which doesn't apply when the military is concerned. If you identify yourself as a woman, the state doesn't care in that instance. You will be deadnamed and drafted.
How very transphobia of them !
Really? Interesting. Didn't know there were exceptions.
I think I remember that when the uk was in full TWAW tranny madness mode, that certain things were exempted. Inheritance of the big estates being one of them.
 
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Are you ready to die in a war with Russia, White man? While "refugees" occupy your home, eat your food, attend your children's schools, and work your jobs so that when you return, there will be no place for you and likely they will see your extermination as a necessary evil?

Think hard, White man. Who is your real enemy?
 
They're krauts, they have been so mind fucked for so many generations that if you were to just straight up tell them that they need to get on the bus to go ensure that zelinskiyyee can continue manufacturing industrial scale levels of child porn, or that israel can continue consuming it without fear of a bomb hitting their apartment, they will line up around the block to get on the bus while watching their wives/sisters/moms kiss their "new german" boyfriends.
 
Conscript this

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Allow me to float a solution, a final solution, to all Germans in the event of Russian invasion. Join the Russians and reconquer your homeland. Hell, if the paranoid MSM is to be trusted, the Russians want to conquer all of Europe. Go ahead and conquer France while you're at it for the shits and giggles.

Might as well join the side that allows you to legally gun down the enemies destroying your country.
 
I disagree with most posters here.
I want young white German boys to learn how to use weapons, make explosives, and have military training
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They really think that conscripted native Germans would allow themselves to be deployed? That their parents will allow it when Turkroaches, Syrians, and gypsies continue to get gibs?

Russia could even just say "you can fight for Ukraine or we can help you kill your political leaders".

If I were a disaffected young man watching niggers infect my streets, I know who I'd side with...

Politicians are massively out of touch.
They're getting their information from Facebook (boomers) and thinking Twitter (Gen X and Millennial) is the worst of the "far right"?
Some of the zoomie zoom European Instagram and TikToks would make Goebbels very proud.
 
Politicians are massively out of touch.
The greatest out-of-touch being they honestly think Russia wants to invade them........

They're getting their information from Facebook (boomers) and thinking Twitter (Gen X and Millennial) is the worst of the "far right"?
Some of the zoomie zoom European Instagram and TikToks would make Goebbels very proud.
Who knew that making it so you can only parrot your politician's ideas online? Otherwise you get arrested? Just might make them actually believe they are holders of majority opinions and go on to do stupid shit under the belief that "everyone agrees with me!"
 
So, Ahmed, 29, who just got his German papers will be on the frontline near Kharkov
You're forgetting that EU countries have been declaring fully bearded men in their 30s and 40s "children" for a decade now. I see no reason why Achmed couldn't be considered a 13yo girl, with a note that he's a magical fairy girl who never ages and is therefore ineligible for the draft forever.
 
The greatest out-of-touch being they honestly think Russia wants to invade them........
It's the same meme as the sexually frustrated pro-choice advocate who never stops bringing up The Handmaid's Tale.
 
Merz scrapped Germany’s strict government debt rules to allow unlimited borrowing for defence spending after his victory in February’s parliamentary elections.

With money no longer a problem
That’s like saying if Mehmet keeps getting free Hartz IV moolah he’s no longer a jobless, uneducated refugee
 
Just a reminder: the old conscription laws also held the option of a so called "Ersatzdienst". It basically meant you can deny the conscription (you had an enshrined right to deny it) but in return you had to serve ina social service agency: retirement home, hospital or orther common good service. Of course you needed a "good reason" but that was bullshit. If they denied your reason you could just go to court and in general the court would agree with your denial of conscription. So would you think Abdul would serve the military or for a common good? If second mayxbe some back breaking work would crush his spirit
 
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No one is going to die for globohomo. Men might join for money if the only alternative is living in a cardboard box and eating dirt.
The Ukraine has been a test run for forcing people to fight. They've learned a lot of lessons there. A very significant number of the people who have been conscripted and sent to fight the Russians are themselves ethnically Russian. Conscription has notably targeted smaller villagers and towns in the East rather than people in the Western areas like Lvov or urban laptop class in Kiev. People are escorted to the front in chains - literally. They're not given weapons until the last moment and in not a few cases there are barrier troops some way behind them whose job is to shoot them if they don't advance. In the case of Ukraine those barrier troops are ultra-nationalist Banderites who wanted this war all along and insanely believe in the West's goal of collapsing the Russian Federation. But all that is required is a group that lacks a sense of unity with the people you're conscripting and who will serve you loyally. Germany has a number of options for that. Given this would be under either NATO or an EU army and not solely Germany, they could just use soldiers from one of the other nations for enforcement. A Polish barrier force making sure the German foot soldiers keep advancing? Entirely possible. Or they could draw from one of their immigrant groups domestically. Some group that knows their well-being is dependent on the State. The UK is now recruiting Nigerian men and giving them British citizenship in return for serving.

Kiev has also stage-managed the conscription in slices. Sure, if you round up all the males and try to send them to the front, they're going to stop you. But Kiev has slowly lowered the age range bit by bit to bring in more, they've targeted disparate areas and in stages, as some die, more are brought in to replace them and the ones that are dead are obviously not resisting you anymore. They're seriously depopulating the Ukraine of its menfolk by conscripting them and hurling them at the Russians and are doing so disproportionally towards blue collar people and ethnic Russians / people whose first language is Russian (which is most of Ukraine). Globohomo thinks such people can be easily replaced with new imports.

They're all studying how it's done in Ukraine - what works, what doesn't, how quickly you can tighten the screws or when you need to back off to prevent resistance getting too organised. They'll get it down to a science. I'm not at all confident in the idea that German people will simply resist. If they had that sort of backbone, Germany wouldn't be in the state it is in to begin with. And if anyone thinks "but it's different when your life is on the line," I'll point out that "it's different when there's a gun pointed at your head or you're sitting in a cell". If people wont defend the small liberties when the cost of doing so is just mild civil participation, I'm not convinced they'll defend the big liberties when the cost is their job or their freedom.
 
The Ukraine has been a test run for forcing people to fight.
If Germany lacks sufficient modern rifles to equip its active-duty forces and its reserve component simultaneously, that's due to production issues. Germany's procurement was tailored to meet peacetime needs, so recent stockpiles can only equip only one formation at a time; however, Germany's defense industry has retained the necessary tooling, quality systems, and skilled workforce to rapidly scale production. With political will, existing production lines could be retooled/expanded to double current output within six to twelve months.

Moreover, Germany's MIC could also increase production abroad and then accelerate production in Germany itself; in other words, the current inventory gap is a temporary logistical challenge, not an technological obstacle. Germany has the engineering expertise and manufacturing infrastructure to make it happen.

Additionally, the German MIC has already entered into contracts in other countries, ostensibly to arm the Ukraine but I suspect they're also prepared to arm Germany if necessary.

The EU wants war, and they'll get it. Conscription is not an issue. We all know what they're capable of doing to their own citizens, unless you were asleep during the COVID madness or the massive influx of migrants in recent years. So yes, the Ukraine is a proving ground for what they plan on doing when the time comes, and not just in the EU.
 
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