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[Burgerasssand]

we got this blink-it-or-you-miss-it moment of Lizzy resting her head on V

You mean this one?

Ehh... I personally don't see it, though with proper-lighting, I can understand where the misconceptions come from. Her head alone makes it look she's resting on V's shoulder, but that's just because of how gigantic their watermelon ass skulls are. The rest of her body posture and her getting ready to text on the phone almost screams that she's only doing it to see what N threw properly and then gossip about it or something (like that matters to rabid shippers tho, lol).

Regardless, JESUS that clipping error is way worse now that I look at it more, I can literally see Lizzy's hair and helmet going straight into V's head. It's a shame, usually the animation is a lot more on point with this series, but I guess they had to slip up somewhere at some point (or its just more proof that the episode wasn't only rushed in the writing department).

 

[Bob Barbas]

(or its just more proof that the episode wasn't only rushed in the writing department).

That's even worse because remember the episode was already delayed to begin with. They originally planned to release episode 7 and 8 around the same time. (Looking back it was unclear whether they simply were going to release them both together as like an hour long finale or if they just planned to release them much closer together.)
So the fact that there's still visual issues despite delaying it for a few extra months is pretty bad.

 

[BigJoey41X]

You mean this one?
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Ehh... I personally don't see it, though with proper-lighting, I can understand where the misconceptions come from. Her head alone makes it look she's resting on V's shoulder, but that's just because of how gigantic their watermelon ass skulls are. The rest of her body posture and her getting ready to text on the phone almost screams that she's only doing it to see what N threw properly and then gossip about it or something (like that matters to rabid shippers tho, lol).

I dont even like defending this ship at all because of how bad it is, but you're making me do it because you seem to be in denial of basic visual hints such as the pic above, keep in mind this isnt the only hint in the show that tries to put these two together, there's that one out of pocket line in episode 3

Nevermind, you're way hotter than Doll!

Not to mention the implied (mostly off-screen) relationship they also had.

Obviously, this is far, FAR less than adequate to build a romance, because thats just how lackluster and half-assed the character development in this series is, but from judging the direction of what they are intending, it shouldn't be THAT insane to think that there's something going on between Lizzy and V right?, for fucks sake this bitch somehow has a more functional relationship with this blondie here over N, her previous love interest.

 

[Bob Barbas]

You're also forgetting Uzi's line from the final episode.
" No one traumatizes these weirdly hot robots but me! " (Referring to both N and V.)
Unfortunately, I'm fairly certain they were doing this intentionally because they knew about the retarded fan shipping. I'm sorry, but I don't believe Liam actually hates the gays.

 

[Bob Barbas]

So it actually just struck me today that out of the 3 DDs, N is the least evil, if anything J is right about him in that he's just a fucking retard.
The final episode actually seals the idea that V and J are both abhorrent people. J, for obvious reasons. Betraying her friends and basically the entire universe because... uhhhh... huh.


I guess because she's a fucking bitch? Yeah, we'll go with that since the show doesn't even give a reason to justify it.
And both J and V knew what was really going on. So, as a refresher in case any of you forgot, the lie in Episode 1 was that the drones were corrupted and needed to be destroyed. N was under the impression he was just doing his job, like a soldier killing enemy troops during war time. Still fucked up but the point is he thought he was doing it for the right reasons.

Meanwhile not only did V actively know this wasn't the case the series went out of its way to display her being excessively cruel and sadistic. I mean there's literally a scene in Episode 1 where N is wincing at how excessive V is being while killing a worker drone.

So, to me this is really making me think Liam did not think through this plot at all. And neither of them really pay for their crimes either, which in general is just very unsatisfying. It's part of why I feel like V should not have survived. At least then you could see it as her sacrificing herself to atone for her actions, but since she made it out just fine there's not really any weight to it anymore. (Not like there was any to begin with.)
And the fact that there's not really any sufficient reason for J deciding to side with the Solver other than for dramatic effect is also very retarded.

That being said, I think I've bitched about the series enough. It's probably about time to move on for real. I guess I'll be back if they release something else I'm actually interested in, or some funny drama takes place. (Or if someone else makes an interesting observation that I haven't seen before I guess because I'm a faggot and can't help myself sometimes.)

 

[BigJoey41X]

What, you only noticed it now that N is the least screwed up of the three?, why do you think he the designated "nice guy" of the cast?, lmao.

J is the flat, one-joke, secondary antagonist, nothing more than that, makes it all sadder seeing people in the fandom wish for the "redemption arc" to happen, also its kind of left ambiguous if she knew from the very start that Cyn is the one that actually behind this, or she got let in on the real plot sometime after her resurrection and before her return to C9, again, another casualty of having so little screentime.

V unambiguously knows the most about Cyn and stuff, remember that the implied reason she was so hostile to basically everyone, even after the pilot is that she's trying to gatekeep "the truth", to N specifically, "ignorance in bliss" is the excuse, though this becomes less forgivable over time even as they inched closer into the mystery of the solver, but that's an in-character fuckup (that never gets addressed other than that one time in episode 3 lol).

So, to me this is really making me think Liam did not think through this plot at all. And neither of them really pay for their crimes either, which in general is just very unsatisfying. It's part of why I feel like V should not have survived. At least then you could see it as her sacrificing herself to atone for her actions, but since she made it out just fine there's not really any weight to it anymore. (Not like there was any to begin with.)

Yep, they absolutely just got away with it, LV both portrayed them as absolute psychopaths but also still wanted to make light of their actions even after all of it (this IS a comedy amirite?), even the fucking main antagonist gets to live too, and the best excuse the defenders can come up with is:
"Who cares about the background characters?"
(Then why should I care as much about these main cast then?)

And the fact that there's not really any sufficient reason for J deciding to side with the Solver other than for dramatic effect is also very retarded.

J submitted to the AS out of fear, basically, foolishly thinking that she would live (or not suffer as much) if she sided with that thing, the reveal didn't really hit that hard considering she has been an absolute nuisance to both the in-universe people and my ears and eyes, the "betrayal" is such a nothing moment.

Well anyway, I think I've bitched about the series enough. It's probably about time to move on for real. I guess I'll be back if they release something else I'm actually interested in, or some funny drama takes place. (Or if someone else makes an interesting observation that I haven't seen before I guess because I'm a faggot and can't help myself sometimes.)

Same, I think I've said more than enough I have wanted out of my chest in this thread about this show, I'll stick around for the Digital Circus, that one is actually competently written so far.

But before we move on, there's one last thing to bring up, something even the fans noticed, remember the plot point of DDs and Solver-infected workers needing to kill people?, the last time it was brought up was in episode 4, before seemingly falling into the wayside after that, but in the finale credits slideshow, we get this shot of Uzi and N in the bedroom...feasting on a random dead worker corpse, all presented for laughs btw, so that was still a thing that they needed to do, they can't get rid of that, even after Cyn got defeated.

So let me get this fuckin straight, the colony just let these known mass murderers into their bunker, for some reason?, and THEY ARE STILL ACTIVELY KILLING OTHER DRONES WHAT?

Yeah, none of this makes any goddamn sense anymore.

 

[Bob Barbas]

So let me get this fuckin straight, the colony just let these known mass murderers into their bunker, for some reason?, and THEY ARE STILL ACTIVELY KILLING OTHER DRONES WHAT?

Let me put it this way. I think we're just sadly not the target audience.

Murder Drones is clearly a series by retards, for retards.
With that revelation everything makes sense.

 

[Dynamite Bean]

Murder Drones is clearly a series by retards, for retards.

Sounds about right for most modern things, I mean there's good reason why the people who are most obsessed with this shit are those who have various flags and pronouns in bio, coomers, manchildren, and literal children

 

[Bob Barbas]

So a new announcement came out of nowhere today. They're going to be doing another GlitchX stream. No date given, just that it'll be """"soon.""""
They're asking for commentors to submit comedic scenarios for the voice actors to do on stream. Oh also, the only characters allowed are N, Uzi, Pomni and Jax btw.
So what they could only get three of their voice actors for this? And two of those characters are voiced by the same person.

Other than that, no real information about what it will pertain. Knowing Glitch we could either get a bunch of new information or it could be a big fucking nothingburger.

 

[Bob Barbas]

Yeah, I'm starting to think the theory they killed MD because it wasn't as profitable or popular as TADC is probably true even if they'll never directly admit it. The previous GlitchX stream I remember Liam outright saying some shit that basically confirmed Season 2 was going to happen, even saying something that implied Season 1 was simply meant to be "The setup" so whatever happened between then and now is likely what caused them to scrap the idea of a Season 2 entirely and forced Liam to have to poorly wrap up the plot in just a couple of episodes. You wanna know what I think it was? The fact that TADC absolutely fucking exploded in popularity almost immediately. It's only on the fucking second episode too but that shit is probably making them mad fucking bank whereas MD was a much slower burn in terms of popularity.

Also, seeing comments like this makes me a little depressed.

I am really hoping that these, what I presume to be small children when they grow up will look back at the show and realize "Wow, this is actually way fucking worse than I remember it being." because I can only believe actual children getting this attached to such one dimensional, nothing characters.

I do wonder what the second GlitchX stream is going to entail however. Maybe we'll finally get some news of those other shows besides TADC they were supposed to be working on but haven't said a single fucking peep about since.

 

[Stuckinatoaster]

I agree with everyone in the thread about MD. I never originally watched it because the beginning was SUPPPPPPEEEER fucking boring but I finally pushed through it to really get a feel about the show. There's a lot of flaws that I have seen throughout the show and yeah, I agree with everyone in the thread more about the shit I saw.
Something that bothered me about MD was Cyn and how they went about portraying her. Like, why did they suddenly hate Cyn? Especially in the flash back? It made 0 sense for the random hostility towards the character during the entire ep 5 (If I remember, that's the flashback episode) and it never fleshed out anything like a few others pointed out.

Firstly, Why was Cyn so hated by Tessa? They locked her in a basement constantly but why? I could understand if it was because Tessa's parents not liking Cyn acting out of line like the one portion of the episode but it doesn't really show more than that. It just expects you to dislike her randomly without a real reason other than that brief interaction. Also, why turn her into the villain so quickly like that? It would have been better if the character had more of reason to trust the solver than almost dying so quickly like that.

The whole series is so fucking rushed and edgy that it just makes you question a lot of small shit. I sound like a broken record with the amount of times that was said here.
Also, small mati if you will but Cyn plushie? Fucking gross. I do not want a robot wearing the skin of a little girl around me. Thanks.

 

[Dynamite Bean]

Guess that puts an end to all the season 2 cope, granted still a few people deluding themselves into thinking there will be something new with MD ignoring the fact that indie animation studios are practically no different than normal ones and don't just do shit out of the kindness of their heart and will make what you want just because the fans want it

 

[Bob Barbas]

Firstly, Why was Cyn so hated by Tessa? They locked her in a basement constantly but why? I could understand if it was because Tessa's parents not liking Cyn acting out of line like the one portion of the episode but it doesn't really show more than that. It just expects you to dislike her randomly without a real reason other than that brief interaction. Also, why turn her into the villain so quickly like that? It would have been better if the character had more of reason to trust the solver than almost dying so quickly like that.

It's weird because the series implies The Solver is what brought Cyn back to life in the Junkyard, it's one of those retarded blink and you'll miss it moments where if you look at the text appearing on her visor the Solver asks her for permission to infect her basically when it shows that drone waking up in the junkyard on that one episode. (Don't remember if it was 5 or a different one because the series is so disjointed that everything just blends together.)

So it implies Cyn made some kind of deal with the devil essentially but then never addresses it again. Hell, the solver itself is really vague to the point of annoyance. Again, why does it want to destroy the universe? Why can it only infect JCJenson drones? Ect. (It's part of why for awhile I was convinced it was going to be revealed JCJenson was like Umbrella in space but replacing man made horrors beyond our comprehension with making pacts with interdimensional entities. But then the company just gets completely forgotten about after Episode 5 and never brought up again.)
I'm at the point I've given up trying to make sense of it, or really care that much. It is what it is.

 

[BigJoey41X]

I still don't believe that the success of the Digital Circus actually had a hand in canceling MD, remember that Gooseworx has publicly stated multiple times that the series was ever intended to only go for one season, unlike Murder Drones where it was a lot more ambiguous if it was getting another run, Glitch can very easily go back to greenlight another season once that series concludes.

Now, the real question is whether it was LV himself, or Glitch that decided to put it down for good, both are equally plausible, Liam could have either realized how much he fumbled his baby, and decided to abort, or maybe he got tired of writing it, that could be why episode 8 was so rushed, Glitch also might have had the final say, I don't know if MD was actually profitable for them with the merch sales, I have no access to their balance sheets, but MD might have been too expensive for them to continue for relatively meager gains (possibly 200k-300k per episode depending on quality and length), hell, maybe the production team told LV that they weren't satisfied with how the product turned out, It cant just be us that realized what the fuck went wrong here right?

Personally, probably a bit of both, I hope that the two sides had a mutual agreement and went their separate ways peacefully, who knows what can happen next?

So it implies Cyn made some kind of deal with the devil essentially but then never addresses it again. Hell, the solver itself is really vague to the point of annoyance. Again, why does it want to destroy the universe? Why can it only infect JCJenson drones? Ect. (It's part of why for awhile I was convinced it was going to be revealed JCJenson was like Umbrella in space but replacing man made horrors beyond our comprehension with making pacts with interdimensional entities. But then the company just gets completely forgotten about after Episode 5 and never brought up again.)
I'm at the point I've given up trying to make sense of it, or really care that much. It is what it is.

Number one reason, for the funny, some villains just do stuff for the sake of it, and especially coming from the tone of the series, also I thought it's common genre tradition in Cosmic Horror that the monsters don't need a solid motive, just the mere fact that they exist at all is supposed to be the scary part, they say the one that cannot be reasoned with is the scariest.

I assume JcJenson is essentially THE ultimate, galaxy-spanning monopoly, where they make anything and everything, and that includes Drone Manufacturing, now, we don't know exactly why The Solver seems to only work with the Drones specifically, we will never know, and I doubt there was actually going to be an explanation for why it was the case.

I can accept lore that doesn't need to be elaborated on all that much, just make sure whatever you established stays consistent with the worldbuilding (it failed lol)

Edit: One more thing, I see that Episode 5 in particular seems to just touch your nerves the wrong way, you have talked about THAT episode way more than any other one.

 

[Bob Barbas]

Edit: One more thing, I see that Episode 5 in particular seems to just touch your nerves the wrong way, you have talked about THAT episode way more than any other one.

Probably because in my eyes it was likely the last chance they had to salvage the asinine plotline and maybe try to connect things together better and they completely fumbled it. Actually no, they tosses that shit out the window.

I thought it's common genre tradition in Cosmic Horror that the monsters don't need a solid motive, just the mere fact that they exist at all is supposed to be the scary part, they say the one that cannot be reasoned with is the scariest.

The problem with that one is that Cyn/The Solver isn't scary in the slightest. Was she supposed to be scary? I hope not because if anything I found her kind of annoying. Actually it felt like they were trying too hard to make her funny. You can really tell that every time she opened her mouth the writers were thinking "The audience is going to laugh SO HARD! She's so fucking funny guys!" Spoilers: She wasn't.
Apparently they based her partially on Glados? Which, dear God that's depressing because you can really, REALLY tell they did not understand what made Glados funny either.

A lot of the show feels like Liam not understanding why some things worked in the context they were originally presented in and just throwing them in because he thought they were cool or they would be funny and then being confused when they're neither.

 

[BigJoey41X]

Probably because in my eyes it was likely the last chance they had to salvage the asinine plotline and maybe try to connect things together better and they completely fumbled it. Actually no, they tosses that shit out the window.

Can you actually elaborate even more?, reading your previous posts, it does seem like your issues with it is that it was underwhelming or didn't answer enough about the lore, I didn't find any particular issue with it beyond "The Usual Criticisms" like the tendency to switch from funny silly jokes to this is serious worldbuilding TAKE NOTES at the drop of a hat, by this point, I had long given up on ever immersing myself in the narrative.

The problem with that one is that Cyn/The Solver isn't scary in the slightest. Was she supposed to be scary? I hope not because if anything I found her kind of annoying. Actually it felt like they were trying too hard to make her funny. You can really tell that every time she opened her mouth the writers were thinking "The audience is going to laugh SO HARD! She's so fucking funny guys!" Spoilers: She wasn't.

For some reason the audience found her funny, I saw for myself the fanbase's reception to her, which was mostly positive, maybe its just a matter of taste.

Apparently they based her partially on Glados? Which, dear God that's depressing because you can really, REALLY tell they did not understand what made Glados funny either.

The voices are even similar, a literal expy, GLaDOS worked for me because one, it doesn't repeat the same joke for the 20th time in a row, two, she was handled much better when it comes to being funny or being threatening, they were actually being creative with those aspects of her instead of defaulting to the same old gag.

A lot of the show feels like Liam not understanding why some things worked in the context they were originally presented in and just throwing them in because he thought they were cool or they would be funny and then being confused when they're neither.

There's this general rule in writing where the audience can largely accept unbelievable and/or unrealistic things happening in the story because of Rule of Funny or Rule of Cool, if its entertaining enough, why question it?

The problem is MD seems to think that this is a license to do dumb shit as much as possible without considering your worldbuilding, lore, characters at all, it gets abused so hard it starts to devalue the things that are actually supposed to be substantial or hard hitting.

 

[Bob Barbas]

Can you actually elaborate even more?

I feel like a broken record so I'll just give a very brief version of what I already said before.
Since it was a flashback episode it was basically their last chance to at least flesh things out enough to be passable, perhaps elaborating on the mini-flashback N had in a previous episode. Show us his original relationship with V. (Maybe so the audience could at least kind sorta feel bad for her in some way? Even if only a little? Y'know so her later fake out death would have at least had some minor feelings attached.) Maybe show another side to J to give her an actual character? Probably should've had more screen time for Tessa too since she seemed kind of important considering it's basically her fault everything happens given she was the one rescuing drones from the dump. Not to mention her relationship with the other characters was meant to be of importance as well.

Instead most of the episode is just spent meandering around and not really telling us anything of consequence, mostly just shit we already knew or suspected beforehand. Hell V is barely even present she might as well not even be there.

Just various things like that the would've gone a long way in fixing the major issues with the story. Instead the entire episode chooses to give all of the screen time to Uzi and N for whatever reason when it probably could have been better utilized in fleshing out the other characters. Basically, a small glimpse into what their lives were like before everything went to shit would've gone a long way.

 

[BigJoey41X]

Fair point actually, the goal of the episode seems centered around Cyn's emergence, the moment it finally awakened and started wrecking shit, originating from the Manor, at the cost of everything else.

How Tessa was treated also left me with a bad taste in my mouth too, her involvement in fixing up the then-WDs did make her feel like she was supposed to be far more important, but in actuality she was nothing more than shock value for the Corpse Robot reveal, what a let-down.

 

[Bob Barbas]

How Tessa was treated also left me with a bad taste in my mouth too, her involvement in fixing up the then-WDs did make her feel like she was supposed to be far more important, but in actuality she was nothing more than shock value for the Corpse Robot reveal, what a let-down.

If that slide from the final episode is the truth then it basically implies she was literally created to explain why Cyn is wearing human skin. That's it. That was the point of her character.

Actually come to think of it, a lot of things in the series feel like Liam is just checking boxes on a list and not really putting any thought into any of it.

 

[White Room]

Who's your favorite characters
i like j