Global Depression 2022 - Time to do the Breadline Boogaloo!

[Quijibo69]

I hope Canada burns to death, one can only hope!

 

[1999 prick]

I already hate the feds for taking my money but never in my life I would ever thought that I could hate them even more for printing money.

 

[Kung Pow Cream]

I'm poor as fuck and am dreading the incoming tariffs because I know they'll just make food cost even more. When winter hits, everything is going to cost so damn much because all the fresh produce is gonna have to be imported in.

I already have started to pick at the price reduced produce for my fruits like apples and I'm not sure how to cut my budget even more and I coupon the fuck out of the things I use regularly.

I never grew up with a bare fridge or cabinet but maybe I should just buy less food and have some extra space.

 

[moocow]

I never grew up with a bare fridge or cabinet but maybe I should just buy less food and have some extra space.

No, please don't do that. Keeping it full is more energy-efficient ("stuff" stays colder long than air does, so ultimately your refrigerator doesn't work quite as hard keeping a full chamber cold, whereas if it's mostly empty, it has to run essentially every time you open the door), and in the event of some kind of nastiness, you have more food at home.

The energy efficiency thing is just a bonus; I'd prefer you didn't starve even if it costs a bit more to get started.

[edit: clarified second sentence]

 

[Kung Pow Cream]

No, please don't do that. Keeping it full is more energy-efficient ("stuff" stays colder long than air does, so ultimately your refrigerator doesn't work quite as hard keeping a full chamber cold, whereas if it's mostly empty, it has to run essentially every time you open the door), and in the event of some kind of nastiness, you have more food at home.

The energy efficiency thing is just a bonus; I'd prefer you didn't starve even if it costs a bit more to get started.

[edit: clarified second sentence]

Huh interesting. As for the second paragraph, I have a full cabinet and such. I can, freeze, and dehydrate as well. The only thing that I don't do anymore is grow. I used to have a farm share too but I took a paycut at work. Don't worry, I'm not starving but rather trying to figure out other ways to save a few dollars.

I'm just a bit worried that I'll be like my grandparents when they were younger and get excited at the idea of nuts and citrus fruits as a gift.

 

[moocow]

I'm just a bit worried that I'll be like my grandparents when they were younger and get excited at the idea of nuts and citrus fruits as a gift.

Meh, don't worry about it too much. I feel like an old fart because getting socks for Christmas makes me so happy now

 

[Dawdler]

I never grew up with a bare fridge or cabinet but maybe I should just buy less food and have some extra space.

I just use stores as a storage and only buy as much as I need. Everything perishable gets cooked/eaten in a day and rationed over a week.
There's no point in having a storage of items that will be on shelf and get refreshed at owner's expense.
That said, I do have a fridge. Run it only as much as I need, then turn it off as it is empty.

 

[moocow]

That said, I do have a fridge. Run it only as much as I need, then turn it off as it is empty.

That's ... weird. It costs about $100 a year to run a big ass side-by-side refrigerator full time (about $0.27 per day). I would argue that running it "only as much as you need" causes wear and tear on the components of the refrigerator and probably consumes more electricity than you'd expect (it can take hours for a side-by-side to reach its normal temperatures, meaning it's spending time consuming electricity without cooling your stuff).

I doubt over time you're really saving anything by doing it that way, especially if you consider the potential reduced lifespan of the refrigerator. These days they use pretty lousy parts as it is, so overworking them just makes it worse. Replacing a compressor is more expensive than you'd expect. Hell, the newer LG models don't even use normal compressors; they're addicted to their linear induction motors, which are great for washers & dryers but dogshit for compression ... if it fails, you get to replace the motor and an inverter, which is even more expensive. And that's even if you do it all yourself instead of paying a tech.

 

[Dawdler]

That's ... weird. It costs about $100 a year to run a big ass side-by-side refrigerator full time (about $0.27 per day). I would argue that running it "only as much as you need" causes wear and tear on the components of the refrigerator and probably consumes more electricity than you'd expect (it can take hours for a side-by-side to reach its normal temperatures, meaning it's spending time consuming electricity without cooling your stuff).

I shut it off and clean it, then just leave it like that.
Stuff that needs to get cooled is tossed in and fridge turned on. It pulls down in an hour to normal temperature unless I get icecream - then I leave it on beforehand. There's really no additional wear that I have noticed and leaving doors open drys it out completely. Costs are really nothing. It uses 20USD worth of electricity a year. I just hate having appliances running. Consumption at highest summer heat is 1kWh/day, which is nothing. I dislike the bigger fridges as well - You just fill it with trash that you throw away after it expires bc you forgot about it. I leave food outside/in car during winter too. No need to run anything and is cold anyway.

I doubt over time you're really saving anything by doing it that way, especially if you consider the potential reduced lifespan of the refrigerator. These days they use pretty lousy parts as it is, so overworking them just makes it worse. Replacing a compressor is more expensive than you'd expect.

I can replace it at no cost to me (have spares), but it's just better to buy a newer fridge if this one fails.
It has a chinese compressor in it with aluminium winding (cheapest there is) so it's basically junk from start. I doubt there's any copper even in the coils, it's all aluminium by the looks. Really made to a price point. But it works, so far.

Hell, the newer LG models don't even use normal compressors; they're addicted to their linear induction motors, which are great for washers & dryers but dogshit for compression ... if it fails, you get to replace the motor and an inverter, which is even more expensive. And that's even if you do it all yourself instead of paying a tech.

Never buy an LG fridge. They are a service nightmare and the only proper fix for them is to replace the linear compressor with a classic one.
The inverters are cheap part 30USD worth 120USD retail, compressors are unobtanium however and there's 2yr waiting period for one or 300USD off the shelf. Manufacturing cost of it is 20USD.

 

[moocow]

Never buy an LG fridge. They are a service nightmare and the only proper fix for them is to replace the linear compressor with a classic one.
The inverters are cheap part 30USD worth 120USD retail, compressors are unobtanium however and there's 2yr waiting period for one or 300USD off the shelf. Manufacturing cost of it is 20USD.

That's fucking ridiculous. I don't know how they get away with that.

 

[Dawdler]

That's fucking ridiculous. I don't know how they get away with that.

Smoke and mirrors. It works fine until it fails and then service dept spins you in a loop until you give up.
The worst issue with these is they sometimes fail partially so they just don't cool that well and you don't really know what's wrong.
People buy them bc they are quiet - which is true. But the compressor is made with 0 lubrication in mind. You would think that would be the reason why it fails, but no, valves go first. Something that was figured out 50 years ago for any domestic fridge.

 

[moocow]

It works fine until it fails and then service dept spins you in a loop until you give up.

I heard from a local repair guy that they'll also only repair/replace the compressor & inverter once (despite offering a 10 year warranty), and after that, warranty or not, they'll tell you you're fucked if it fails again.

 

[Dawdler]

I heard from a local repair guy that they'll also only repair/replace the compressor & inverter once (despite offering a 10 year warranty), and after that, warranty or not, they'll tell you you're fucked if it fails again.

It will fail again in a year

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Egg and Chicken Prices are going through the roof due to a massive Bird Flu culling.

I haven't checked eggs in my neck of the woods but my parents in the PNW told me eggs have gone up ~300% and several stores just are refusing to stock them right now.

I bought a bunch of chicken in late October at $2.99/lb, Costco now has the same chicken for $3.50/lb. So chicken prices aren't spiking yet, but it's possible it will very quickly.

 

[moocow]

It will fail again in a year

My parents just ordered a new refrigerator to replace a 30 year old GE. I'm so glad the repairman steered them away from LG because that was their first choice. I owe that dude a beer.

 

[Dawdler]

LG stands for lousy garbage, so yes
They had really nice LCD tv's 10 years ago and some AC's were ok. Fridges, stay clear of them
Even the turkish Vox is much much better.

 

[Fascist Kirk]

cash is king desperate debtors giving shit away to keep the heat on. . .

warren buffet is never wrong. been waiting 15 years for this moment.

PS - Edit Edit Edit -
a day later edit because i don't want to double post. . . .

Deflation is real and prepare now be out of debt, reduce your monthly liabilities.

https://youtu.be/zqZg7I2Hal8?si=LuMe9ygQc6f6zPmM

 

[qoop]

Crazy shit

 

[Buttigieg2020]

LG stands for lousy garbage, so yes
They had really nice LCD tv's 10 years ago and some AC's were ok. Fridges, stay clear of them
Even the turkish Vox is much much better.

They also make terrible washing machines.

 

[Dawdler]

They also make terrible washing machines.

Haven't seen a person brave enough to buy one