Goblins - Bad Webcomic wants to be a cartoon feat. Billy West, Jim Cummings, Steve Blum. Creator trooned out

[Kosher Dill]

I always felt it was extremely unlikely. To my knowledge, there has never been a single American webcomic that has broken through to a studio backed animation.

And that's the thing, we're not even talking about a comic breaking through, since so little of the comic material is usable. All that's left is some broadly-drawn character types like "the dumb fighter", "the angry one", "the goofy one", and so on. Why pay an unstable and difficult author for such thin gruel?

 

[Ghostse]

I literally just finished looking at the twitter thread, and was about to post. Jesus Christ.

This isn't being supportive anymore (assuming it ever was), Danielle is enabling a toxic relationship. FUCK HIM. I don't give a shit about respecting your gender identity anymore, you absolute skank. Thunt is garbage. Pure garbage. How the hell can you justify doing this to the woman that has had your back DESPITE ALL THIS SHIT. Get over your BDSM fetish and start thinking about someone else, FOR ONCE IN YOUR FUCKING LIFE.

I've hated a lot of things Thunt has done over the years, but cheating on his wife takes the cake. I've officially reached the point of feeling complete contempt, and disgust, for the man. I'm sure he got permission, but who is the one pushing for an open marriage? You don't have to answer, we all know. Since when was Thunt into men, anyway? Being trans is not an excuse to start catching up on all the gay sex you missed out on as a lad, you know, and to act like it's some sort of empowering act of transness... What is wrong with these people? His marriage will end badly, and the sooner, the better. His wife is too good for this moron.

Who would have guessed it would end up like this. I remember back in the say. Thunt made a joke about hypnotizing all the women of the world, and some woman freaked out, which lead to a massive sandal and he ended up donating money to a woman's shelter. For a joke. How tame those days were. After that, he shut up about his hypnosis kink.

That is, he shut up until coming out as trans, and now feels emboldened to just go hard into the BDSM culture.

As for the photos. I had already seen those. Not the first time it's happened. More interestingly, the same day as those nudes went up, she had posted, "I'm feeling really unpretty and dysphoric. I look at those two pics I just posted and all I see is... "him". It's hard not to cry."

The previous pics not being the nude ones. I suspect that the nudes were specifically taken to counter the bad feelings that came from the clothed pictures. I suppose that was probably the reason for doing it the previous times as well. Fishing for complements by showing your nude body to feel like a "real" woman.

In other news the gofundme got the money. No announcement of the goal being reached yet, as per the usual.


On a different note, I no longer think Goblins even has a CHANCE to be made into a cartoon at this point. Imagine some big company that is thinking about investing millions of dollars into a Goblins cartoon. You think they won't be doing a check on how the author acts in public? Does a company want some exhibitionist that cheats on his wife as the sort of trans icon? This has public relations disaster written all over it, and no amount of "but trans" will be able to paper over just how terrible it would be to back a guy like this. Thunt is at the point where his public personality will actively hurt any major project that comes from him.

Welcome to what everyone else realized years ago. Now if you keep your eyes open and look around, you'll realize that Trooning out is used by other narcists to hide all sorts of exploitative behavior behind the the shield of transrights and legions of BLTQ defenders. In fact, you'll notice that's the case with nearly all vocal trannies.
And then you might start to realize why no one uses their made up pronouns.

Also Rebecca Sugar drew Ed Edd and Eddy rule 34 and the didn't stop her from getting her own show.

Did it ever though? They'd have to write entirely new material since the original comic has such a focus on scarring, mutilation, disfigurement, and dismemberment. And new material is out of the question for a guy who can't even write his own comic anymore.

Thanks to Critical Role, and Thunt somehow having industry connections, it had a decent chance.
Critical Role is making an animated series, and enough simps watching for it make $9 million over 2 years - if you bought Goblins, you've have a chance to beat them to market. I think the real problem, in addition to the source material, is that Thunt is coming in half-cocked wanting to get funding for a pilot. If he'd worked with studio to have more than just a (crappy) demo, and say a treatment for Season 1, he might have gotten some traction at Netflix trying to beat Amazon to the D&D cartoon game.

I honestly have no idea how likely the cartoon creation has or had.

I always felt it was extremely unlikely. To my knowledge, there has never been a single American webcomic that has broken through to a studio backed animation.

tl;dr: Because of Creator rights to the work.

Also you're (technically) wrong. RPG World (or at least the main character, confirmed to be the main charcter from RPG World not a Donut Steel) was featured in an episode of OK KO. There was also the Ctrl+Alt+Del & PVP animated series (again, blind ferret was TECHNICALLY a studio; but you mean a major one, I know)

I'm going to type some words and when I get bored I'm going to stop and hit Post Reply, because the tl;dr covers it.

Webcomic artists, especially from the golden age, understand rights to their work like few creatives do anymore. Their webcomic characters are very clearly 100% theirs, no studio has any claim or rights, and that is very, very out of vogue in Hollywood. I will avoid going on about all the ways american cinema is complete shit now, but the fact they only in-house fully-owned ideas is a good reason why.
To be fair, Studios don't want a Jon K/Ren and Stimpy situation on their hands where the creator loses their fucking minds and eventually takes the property to a competitor after rendering it radioactive toxic.

So the problem is these web comics are wholly creator owned and creators are unlikely to sign away their rights to a room full of suits, at least for what the rooms full of suits are willing to pay for it. Because most have no animation experience and they want to keep making their webcomic, and (righty) see what handcuffs the studios want to put on them and say fuck that.
Its cheaper, easier, and has an easier chain-of-rights to use already hired staff (studio owns their work product) to develop ideas and leverage those instead of going external.

You don't have quite the same issues in Japan, where studios and creators are more liberal with character & story rights due to the culture (unlike in hollywood, if you are a complete toxic shithead in the anime/manga world, no one will work for or with you)

A Goblins cartoon would have had fewer of those issues because the Showrunner would be the creator. (See: RPG world characters guest starring in OK KO episode)

 

[Blubbadubdub]

So I saw that there was some wondering about the tax thing as per the screenshot and joined to answer.

A few months prior to this tweet, one of the users realized that a lot of the fundraisers were in US Dollars. They calculated it in CAD and it came to six figures.
They took a chance on reporting it and largely forgot about it, until the below tweet turned up. The day after, Elli had an upset tummy and a few days after, began riffing a lot more about making irrelevant things tax deductible. Which indicates that the bill was pretty huge.

Recently, there was a tweet on the other account about impersonating the spouse as well.

Which all ties rather neatly that the webcomic creator is likely a spousal abuser.

 

[Ghostse]

So I saw that there was some wondering about the tax thing as per the screenshot and joined to answer.

A few months prior to this tweet, one of the users realized that a lot of the fundraisers were in US Dollars. They calculated it in CAD and it came to six figures.
They took a chance on reporting it and largely forgot about it, until the below tweet turned up. The day after, Elli had an upset tummy and a few days after, began riffing a lot more about making irrelevant things tax deductible. Which indicates that the bill was pretty huge.

Recently, there was a tweet on the other account about impersonating the spouse as well.

Which all ties rather neatly that the webcomic creator is likely a spousal abuser.

Mental, S&M focused narcissistic troon who trooned out on his wife because he wanted to play pretty princess pretend to shield himself from critics might be an abuser? Say it ain't so.

But rewind that post and try it again in English? I'm see there is some stuff about taxes but I'm not following that translates into him beating his wife.

 

[Blubbadubdub]

Sorry, I'm having to try and remember a lot, especially as the bad webcomics wiki suffered from a fairly substantive deletion.

So one of the forum users had worked out just how much had been paid out through the various kickstarters, there was the house, the card game, the Dies Horribly saga, and others and they had put it into high 6 figures as to what had been taken. What had been pointed out was that the amount was in US Dollars and not Canadian (as Tarol resided in British Columbia in some woods - like all good horror movies villains). So this meant that what was USD was suddenly a lot higher in CAD.
He reported the resulting 7 figure sum to whatever the Canadian equivalent of the IRS is and, in Dec 2019, that tweet was published about having to meet with an accountant and see what they owed.
It must have been substantial, because there was a sudden upsurge in produced comics (by Tarol's standards) and the colorist Cheyenne Wright was dumped, presumably to not pay him.
Since then, there have been at least two further fundraisers, where they haven't been turned off, so there are still things that need to be paid.

That's the story on the tax issue - it may be ongoing, but things aren't mentioned until one of the latest tweets. Pretending to be the spouse when debt collectors paid a visit. Which means Tarol has technically assumed the identity of somebody without permission.

Because of this kind of stunt, it's showing controlling and coercive behaviour, classic signs of an abuser.

Also, in addition to that, the nearly 50 year old has been grooming vulnerable teenagers as well.

 

[tomaO2]

What the heck is with

He reported the resulting 7 figure sum to whatever the Canadian equivalent of the IRS is and, in Dec 2019, that tweet was published about having to meet with an accountant and see what they owed.
It must have been substantial, because there was a sudden upsurge in produced comics (by Tarol's standards) and the colorist Cheyenne Wright was dumped, presumably to not pay him.
Since then, there have been at least two further fundraisers, where they haven't been turned off, so there are still things that need to be paid.

That's... incredibly disturbing. The entire stated reason Thunt made at the time for raising money from writing more comics was for voice surgery to sound more feminine. Given how he railed on, and on, about how his voice gave him dysphoria, and that this was coming off another surgery for facial feminization, I believed this to be true. I also thought that the that asking for a new fund raiser so soon after the previous surgery was asking a little too much from the audience, so doing a lot of comics instead sounded valid.

It was the longest stretch of consistant updates since the end of book 1. One page every two weeks on average.

Thing is though, Thunt never got that voice surgery, and he managed to get the voice he wanted without doing it at all. The entire topic was eventually dropped.

What you are telling me is that this was just a... lie in order to cover for the fact that she needed money for taxes? Thats... a little excessive. Why bother creating a big story when you can just say you decided to start working harder? I suppose it could be the case that Thunt originally wanted the money for the surgery but then it went into taxes instead. Not sure when the artist was dropped. It might say something in the blog? Pretty sure it was before the announcement of wanting to do more updates though.

I deleted my goblins bookmark. Guess I'll google.

Good god. I type "go" (for 'goblins') and it auto-completes to "google". Doesn't give a suggestion, just auto-completes the word. Why would I google the word google on the google website? Don't assume what I want to type!

Okay, blog doesn't say anything about this. Was it deleted? Anyway, the two fund raisers are probably for what was stated. Bottom surgery is something Thunt wants, and the apperent rescue of some woman with birds. The latter one actually got a thank for for donating, which Thunt didn't even bother to do when raising money for his facial feminization surgery, so I would think that is legit as well.

That's the story on the tax issue - it may be ongoing, but things aren't mentioned until one of the latest tweets. Pretending to be the spouse when debt collectors paid a visit. Which means Tarol has technically assumed the identity of somebody without permission.

What is going on with Twitter? I tried looking up Thunt's posts and I keep being told I need to sign up to do so. That never used to happen.

Anyway, I'm not sure that this is a sign for anything. A tax collector called for Danielle, and Thunt pretended to be her. The two share a bank account, I assume, so the taxes of one affect the other, so it shouldn't really matter to them who took the call and dealt with it. They should know each other's tax situation. I guess a call from a tax man is fairly important, and you really shouldn't be lying about that though. I'm not married though, so I really don't know how I'd feel about this sort of situation.

 

[Ghostse]

Thanks @Blubbadubdub I will get to sifting through that cauldron of autism here in a bit.

What is going on with Twitter? I tried looking up Thunt's posts and I keep being told I need to sign up to do so. That never used to happen.

Its a new twitter nag screen.
To get around it, there are Chrome extensions, or if using Brave:
1) Clear out all twitter cookies
2) On Brave site shield, block all cookies, adtracking, and fingerprinting for twitter. Nag screen should stop.

 

[Bojack Horsekin]

Small brain: getting a sex change to satisfy your fetish
Galaxy brain: getting a sex change to impersonate your wife for a tax fraud scheme

 

[Ghostse]

Sorry, I'm having to try and remember a lot, especially as the bad webcomics wiki suffered from a fairly substantive deletion.

So one of the forum users had worked out just how much had been paid out through the various kickstarters, there was the house, the card game, the Dies Horribly saga, and others and they had put it into high 6 figures as to what had been taken. What had been pointed out was that the amount was in US Dollars and not Canadian (as Tarol resided in British Columbia in some woods - like all good horror movies villains). So this meant that what was USD was suddenly a lot higher in CAD.
He reported the resulting 7 figure sum to whatever the Canadian equivalent of the IRS is and, in Dec 2019, that tweet was published about having to meet with an accountant and see what they owed.
It must have been substantial, because there was a sudden upsurge in produced comics (by Tarol's standards) and the colorist Cheyenne Wright was dumped, presumably to not pay him.
Since then, there have been at least two further fundraisers, where they haven't been turned off, so there are still things that need to be paid.

That's the story on the tax issue - it may be ongoing, but things aren't mentioned until one of the latest tweets. Pretending to be the spouse when debt collectors paid a visit. Which means Tarol has technically assumed the identity of somebody without permission.

Because of this kind of stunt, it's showing controlling and coercive behaviour, classic signs of an abuser.

Also, in addition to that, the nearly 50 year old has been grooming vulnerable teenagers as well.

Lol. So Thunt got hisself the usual Patreon Charge and is owning socialist back taxes on over a million Maple Bucks of e-begging money. Nice.

I don't think the impersonating his wife is abuse so much a humble brag that he's cut his dick off so hard, and had a doctor fuck up his larynx enough, that he's able to fool a debt collector to believing hes a true and honest woman.

 

[Kosher Dill]

The two share a bank account, I assume, so the taxes of one affect the other

I assumed it was the opposite, actually. I'm guessing Danielle is the one on the fundraisers and such because they have separate finances and Thunt's have been thoroughly nuked by the Canadian taxman. Probably anything that goes to him under his own identity gets garnished.

I'm not seeing the case for accusing him of any abuse beyond the wretched treatment he publicly shouts from the rooftops.

Also, it seems Thunt's absentee father tried getting in contact with him:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/badwebcomicswikiforum/goblins-creator-goes-mia-t113-s6100.html

Didn't go well.

 

[Ghostse]

I assumed it was the opposite, actually. I'm guessing Danielle is the one on the fundraisers and such because they have separate finances and Thunt's have been thoroughly nuked by the Canadian taxman. Probably anything that goes to him under his own identity gets garnished.

I'm not seeing the case for accusing him of any abuse beyond the wretched treatment he publicly shouts from the rooftops.

Also, it seems Thunt's absentee father tried getting in contact with him:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/badwebcomicswikiforum/goblins-creator-goes-mia-t113-s6100.html

Didn't go well.

Lol jesus christ. That Thunt cope. "No one can tell I'm not an attractive 27 year old woman and soon I'll have a real vagina".
Just watch, this nigga gonna snatch a baby to try to complete the fantasy.

 

[Kosher Dill]

From the Downward Spiral Files:

https://nitter.net/Elli_Trans

He apparently posted uncensored topless pics (censored ones are still up), started hemorrhaging followers, and then decided to make a third Twitter account just for posting nudes.
Meanwhile he continues to go on "hetero dates" (i.e. with men, presumably to continue getting cockslapped) and has plans for a massive amount of tattoos.

This really is grim, that's all I can say.

 

[Ghostse]

This really is grim, that's all I can say.

You misspelled hilarious. A 50 year old man is trying to act like a quirky uwu camgirl. his wife is watching him go out on dates with men who literally cockslap him. He is burning all of his web-comic money to become a pus-dripping parody of women. The only people being hurt by his actions are himself, his wife, and the baby he'll end up snatching the next 5 years.
His father has accepted his child is dead and only a twisted sociopath mockery of a human remains.

 

[tomaO2]

I read Thunt saying he was losing followers. I don't think it could have been that many. I'm pretty sure he was cheering managing 3k followers a couple months ago? I'm sure it was 3k. It was some big milestone that he kept begging to break through. I can't find any references to it though. Scrolled back a year (and that Brave extention has stopped that annyong pop up from happening. Thanks). Nothing.

Archive.org does have a snapshot of his account from Jan 26 though. Total follower count was 2,943, and his current count is 3,150. Probably like 10 people quit from the nude pictures. Thunt is surprisingly sensitive to people unfollowing him, for someone that is also so judgemental. A single unfollow can get him whining on twitter, asking why this happened. Maybe that is for people he's followed in particular though?

I really wonder what Danielle is thinking about this. He supported the man through a messy divorce, supported him fully in his dream of being a "full time" webcomic author, supported him when he was a lousy neet for a year, supported him when he decided he was trans, and now supports him while he's going off having sex with other men.

Meanwhile, all these sickening lovey dovey posts posts that pop up on twitter. Look at us being such a happy couple. They just HAVE to be hiding some serious marital issues, and god knows what the kids think. Maybe the kids think it's fine. Way too many of the latest generation seems to be completely hopped up on trans propaganda.

EDIT: god damn, I thought it would be easy to use male pronouns on the guy, but he's actually done a decent job with the transition, and I keep saying she. Don't care though, I don't respect his pronouns. Corrected.

 

[Ghostse]

Meanwhile, all these sickening lovey dovey posts posts that pop up on twitter. Look at us being such a happy couple. They just HAVE to be hiding some serious marital issues, and god knows what the kids thing. Maybe the kids think it's fine. Way too many of the latest generation seems to be completely hopped up on trans propaganda.

"Way too many of the latest generation"

Thunt is almost goddam 50. He is a boomer

 

[Kosher Dill]

god knows what the kids thing. Maybe the kids think it's fine.

The "kids" (none of whom are biologically related to Thunt) are adults by now, and probably never knew about any of this till long after they moved out. If anything they probably think "That new lunatic Mom married".

 

[Safir]

The "kids" (none of whom are biologically related to Thunt) are adults by now, and probably never knew about any of this till long after they moved out. If anything they probably think "That new lunatic Mom married".

What, really? I used to check up on his e-begging escapades from time to time and thought the kids were his with his Evil Ex.

 

[Kosher Dill]

What, really? I used to check up on his e-begging escapades from time to time and thought the kids were his with his Evil Ex.

Looks like you're right, I had it backwards. They're all related to him but not Danielle.

https://www.goblinscomic.com/blog/baby-talk-twitter-live-cams-and-forums

 

[tomaO2]

Hmm, so all the children are from the previous marriage, and they actually tried to have kids together for at least a year or two before giving up. I had assumed that he and Danielle had had a kid or two at some point.

 

[Kosher Dill]

I had assumed that he and Danielle had had a kid or two at some point.

And it's a good thing they didn't, because that hypothetical kid would be like 7 or 8 right now.