God is a requirement for a free world - You need Jesus.

A strict Christian theocracy focused entirely on Christ's teachings would yield the best results whether people like it or not. Even if I was an Atheist I'd want to live there, it's objectively good. The only people who would dislike it are the kinds of degenerates which such a theocracy would be established to protect the citizenry from.
Unlike the free speech thread, I'm not going to lose my shit. I was wrong for doing that and I regret it. I'm sorry. I wanted to get that out of the way because I really don't want to fight. However, could you please take a look at this article about theocracy written by an evangelical Christian? It's circa 2011, but it's still a good read.

I read it myself. Honestly, I think it made some interesting points. I'm amused at how the author calls his opponents the "theophobic left." He makes a very good point though: That the left was being alarmist about dominionism. In reality, most Americans, even evangelical Christians, think the idea is stupid. However, he does make a fair point that most Americans long for some form of public morality. Looking at how things are these days, I can see why that sentiment is growing. I agree with the sentiment, but disagree with how to implement it.

Just to be clear, I absolutely abhor your suggestion of strict theocracy. You may not like it, but the best examples of that are Afghanistan and Iran. Granted, they're Islamic theocracies, but they fall within the Abrahamic cultural sphere so close enough. I don't understand why any Westerner, and especially any American, would want to destroy their heritage. It's cutting your nose to spite your face. I hate the postmodernists and all their assorted leftist/SJW allies too, but I do not want us to lose our precious Western heritage that we should indeed be proud of. Being a reactionary counter to the postmodernists seems to be literally meeting them half way. Please don't stoop to their level from the other direction.
 
Unlike the free speech thread, I'm not going to lose my shit. I was wrong for doing that and I regret it. I'm sorry. I wanted to get that out of the way because I really don't want to fight. However, could you please take a look at this article about theocracy written by an evangelical Christian? It's circa 2011, but it's still a good read.

I read it myself. Honestly, I think it made some interesting points. I'm amused at how the author calls his opponents the "theophobic left." He makes a very good point though: That the left was being alarmist about dominionism. In reality, most Americans, even evangelical Christians, think the idea is stupid. However, he does make a fair point that most Americans long for some form of public morality. Looking at how things are these days, I can see why that sentiment is growing. I agree with the sentiment, but disagree with how to implement it.

Just to be clear, I absolutely abhor your suggestion of strict theocracy. You may not like it, but the best examples of that are Afghanistan and Iran. Granted, they're Islamic theocracies, but they fall within the Abrahamic cultural sphere so close enough. I don't understand why any Westerner, and especially any American, would want to destroy their heritage. It's cutting your nose to spite your face. I hate the postmodernists and all their assorted leftist/SJW allies too, but I do not want us to lose our precious Western heritage that we should indeed be proud of. Being a reactionary counter to the postmodernists seems to be literally meeting them half way. Please don't stoop to their level from the other direction.

Christianity is the heritage of the west. We've been Christian for over a thousand years. Or at least, we were. Leftists are the ones who seek to destroy western heritage and they are quite open and proud about those intentions. While I'm not sure I agree with "implementing a theocracy" (the term "theocracy" is simply too loaded), I don't see how you could possibly argue that Christian moral values are not, generally speaking, superior to the wild degeneracy offered by the left as the alternative.

Anyone who tries to claim otherwise either has a personal hang-up with religion (see: the guy in this thread who cried his eyes out over how evil christcucks are because daddy was a preacher) or is a committed leftist already, IME.
 
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Christianity is the heritage of the west.
You're not wrong. It's certainly a part of our heritage.
Leftists are the ones who seek to destroy western heritage and they are quite open and proud about those intentions.
Again, you're not wrong. However, the Renaissance and Enlightment parts of our heritage too.
Anyone who tries to claim otherwise either has a personal hang-up with religion
Speaking for myself, kind of. I love religious studies. Believe it or not, I actually own and read a copy of the Bible. I'm not a Biblical scholar, but I do like to read and try to learn from it. Because it IS a part of our heritage. Just like the U.S. Constitution. My hang-up is a fear of Christianity being used as a blatant reactionary mirror of postmodernism. Fighting fire with fire will just burn down everything.
or is a committed leftist already
I guarantee you that I'm not one of those. I used to be, but these days all my former leftist friends think I'm an evil Nazi sympathizer.
 
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Speaking for myself, kind of. I love religious studies. Believe it or not, I actually own and read a copy of the Bible. I'm not a Biblical scholar, but I do like to read and try to learn from it. Because it IS a part of our heritage. Just like the U.S. Constitution. My hang-up is a fear of Christianity being used as a blatant reactionary mirror of postmodernism. Fighting fire with fire will just burn down everything.

A generalized fear that a regime may become tyrannical can apply to anything. It's hardly unique to Christianity or traditional Abrahamic religions. If you acknowledge the sickness of secular progressivism, yet reject any other form of religion as well, I'm curious what values you think people should actually follow.
 
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A generalized fear that a regime may become tyrannical can apply to anything. It's hardly unique to Christianity or traditional Abrahamic religions. If you acknowledge the sickness of secular progressivism, yet reject any other form of religion as well, I'm curious what values you think people should actually follow.
Fair enough regarding tyranny. What values do I think people should follow? For one the concept of civic virtue. Mind you I'm aware that Christianity has influenced civic virtue, but I believe you don't need to be Christian to be a virtuous citizen. It's about teaching, and emphasizing, personal and communal responsibility. That rights should be balanced with responsibilities. Likewise, rationality should be reclaimed from the postmodernists who have no right to claim they're rational. Because they're not. For example: They can't condemn creationism, then turn around and blindly support transgenderism.

At least, that's how I see it. I really believe that in the right hands, civic virtue and reason are amazing values that could bring back balance. Part of the problem is that the postmodern regressive left doesn't believe even in secular virtue. They don't believe in reason either.

I'm sure you'll disagree with me and that's fine. We can agree to disagree. Who knows? Maybe reading the Bible more would give me more insight. I also want to stop the regressive left and their postmodern bullshit.
 
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Fair enough regarding tyranny. What values do I think people should follow? For one the concept of civic virtue. Mind you I'm aware that Christianity has influenced civic virtue, but I believe you don't need to be Christian to be a virtuous citizen. It's about teaching, and emphasizing, personal and communal responsibility. That rights should be balanced with responsibilities. Likewise, rationality should be reclaimed from the postmodernists who have no right to claim they're rational. Because they're not. For example: They can't condemn creationism, then turn around and blindly support transgenderism.

At least, that's how I see it. I really believe that in the right hands, civic virtue and reason are amazing values that could bring back balance. Part of the problem is that the postmodern regressive left doesn't believe even in secular virtue. They don't believe in reason either.

I'm sure you'll disagree with me and that's fine. We can agree to disagree. Who knows? Maybe reading the Bible more would give me more insight. I also want to stop the regressive left and their postmodern bullshit.

I believe the central issue is that without a higher power that exists above and beyond any individual human's perception, there is simply no reason not to be a postmodernist or other flavor of moral relativist. If you are an atheist and believe in no higher power, then why would anyone care about your notions of "civic virtue?" The only thing backing that notion is your own say-so. It is not a coincidence that rejection of God has coincided with the rise of postmodernism.

You may reject the Christian God in specific if you want, but in order to have any semblance of genuine morality, you must have a God of some kind or another. And in my opinion, there are simply no other serious contenders in Western culture besides the God of the Bible. Vague sentiments of "civic virtue" aren't going to cut it.
 
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so in order to respect other people and things you need some old book to do so? why are there devout christians who do the things you mentioned above?

morality is learned through life experience. for example i used to be against abortion until hearing thw stories of women who have had them and their reasons why. i changed my view cause i empathized with others and their situations instead of looking at the issue through my own situation.

maybe that’s why christians are so judgemental and unaccepting of other lifestyles. they’re raised with a rigid and by the books view of morality. why do you need to hear from daddy jeebus that violence is wrong? do you think humans are so animalistic that society would devolve into chaos without this book that some people deemed to be the absolute truth?

i fimd it fucking impossible to try to have any deep conversation with a hardcore christian. everything is because of god/a lack of god. if you had some life experience and took risks then you wouldn’t be stuck in a mindset that will never have any depth to it.

you learn lessons by fucking up and you pass those lessons down to your children. you’re going to hurt people in life and people are going to hurt you, you can learn from it and be a good person or you can end up being a lesson to someone else. i’ve been told not to do stupid shit but did it anyways, and learned from it. that’s life.
It's kind of amazing every reply to my comment is neary exactly the same. Anyways, morality is nearly entirely cultural, if you have lived in India, having castes and burning widows would have appeared entirely normal to you. Humans are 100% animalistic (everything that happens in Africa) and there are countless examples of society degenerating. The idea of "learning from life" is ridiculous, you haven't stolen anthing of value, didn't lie in court, and didn't kill anyone. The only things you learned are small things regarding everyday interactions.

If you want to contribute to the debate then tell us why Atheists regard human life as sacred? After all when going through rational objective thought, things like homeless people should be dealt the same as a lame old horse that is only taking away resources.
 
If you want to contribute to the debate then tell us why Atheists regard human life as sacred? After all when going through rational objective thought, things like homeless people should be dealt the same as a lame old horse that is only taking away resources.
You realize that people are capable of empathy without being told about skybro. Seeing a woman beaten in public would make most people feel angry/bad. Seeing a child cry elicits a concern as to whats wrong. Seeing a homeless man suffer would make you feel pity as there are situations where you could easily end up like him.

Posessing empathy is a basic trait of being human which makes us effective at developing community bonds regardless of our beliefs
 
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You realize that people are capable of empathy without being told about skybro. Seeing a woman beaten in public would make most people feel angry/bad. Seeing a child cry elicits a concern as to whats wrong. Seeing a homeless man suffer would make you feel pity as there are situations where you could easily end up like him.

Posessing empathy is a basic trait of being human which makes us effective at developing community bonds regardless of our beliefs
People are only empathic towards things related to them, whether it's physically or community wise. And even then very few people will actually involve themselves in others when it's anything more than non-binding gesture. If you read stories about China you'd know what humans are capable of when the culture lacks an intrinsic value for human life, which is a big part of Abrahamic religions.

But regardless, arguing that empathy is giving value to life is ridiculous. All of us will feel more empathic to a starving dog than to a starving homeless, does that mean the dog is more deserving of life?
 
Religious nut bags.

It's like the renaissance was just missed by some people. But hey, it makes as much sense as the John Frum cult - which actually is theoretically more possible than organized religion.
The Renaissance saw the emergence of great religious zeal between Catholics and the newly formed Protestants...
 
Just to be clear, I absolutely abhor your suggestion of strict theocracy. You may not like it, but the best examples of that are Afghanistan and Iran. Granted, they're Islamic theocracies, but they fall within the Abrahamic cultural sphere so close enough. I don't understand why any Westerner, and especially any American, would want to destroy their heritage. It's cutting your nose to spite your face. I hate the postmodernists and all their assorted leftist/SJW allies too, but I do not want us to lose our precious Western heritage that we should indeed be proud of. Being a reactionary counter to the postmodernists seems to be literally meeting them half way. Please don't stoop to their level from the other direction.
Most forms of governing are abhorrent. The necessity for control over man by a central power is an aberration of man. Furthermore, overshooting to a theocracy that would exile non-believers was more of a knee-jerk response to someone who just wants to stir up trouble instead of offering actual talking points.

Many countries require religion as part of the school curriculum. Italy, Latvia, Germany, Japan, Finland, and Austria to name some. Unfortunately just about every majority Christian country has abolished Christianity in favor of secularism, and it's played out horribly for countries that haven't adopted policy to reflect it. Austrians are taught Islam and Christianity side-by-side in school. Islam is entering the curriculum (to some resistance) in France and Germany. Secularism doesn't help these countries, it perverts the message for all parties and generates division. True secularism as in America has created the hell we live in now.

Let's also recognize that the land of the free was not up for grabs by just anyone in the world in the late 18th century. From 1790 to 1870 the 1790 Naturalization Act only allowed whites of good moral character. Arabs and Islamic extremists couldn't exactly fly a plane into Massachusetts. The US census doesn't have data on religion but it does have data on race. From 1790 to 1940, the percentage of white people in America increased overall to a high of 89.8%. We can assume that the remaining 11.2% are mostly black and Hispanic. Most natives have been killed or pushed out of mainstream society, Hispanics from Mexico, and blacks from the slave trade. Most of this entire group will be practising some form or Christianity with a sizeable minority of Jews, or will have been raised with those values. Secularism doesn't hurt here. It's a relatively homogeneous population all practising the same overall values and traditions. Jews homogenized themselves in different regions, like Haredi (orthodox) Jews almost entirely being within the Northeast or the Amish being concentrated in the Midwest.
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Then in the 1950s something begins to change. Finally in 1952, the Immigration Act is changed to stop barring Asians from coming to America. In 1965 the American Naturalization Act (Hart-Celler Act)is changed and no longer has determinations or quotas based on where you're from or what you look like and it's designed to attract foreign skilled labour. From this point on, immigration keeps opening up more and more and more up until where we are now.

If we're talking about proper American heritage passed down from our forefathers, you need to enter the argument with a few perspective changes in mind. Firstly, everyone that was invited to America was a white denominational Christian from Europe. Second, regardless of their takes and opinions on Deism and Rationality, I've already shown in other posts that even though federal documentation was secular, society at large was  not, as evidenced by the God-fearing language in nearly every state's constitution. The US was designed so that each state could create their own regulations and be their own 'country' in a way, and so non-secular language in the federal documentation would force everyone to recognize a single form or denomination of faith, defeating one of the purposes of having freedom of religion in federal documentation. We've already destroyed proper American heritage. Some parts for the better, some parts not so much. If Islam had been seeping into European education systems back then as it is now, do you think they'd be so quick to allow freedom of religion?
 
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People are only empathic towards things related to them, whether it's physically or community wise.
Im not too sure what you mean here do you mean we are more likely to be more empathetic to people of our own race and culture? I would largely agree as you can relate more easily to something more familiar to you/your family ie. A white blue collar worker as opposed to an arab millionaire.

People are only empathic towards things related to them, whether it's physically or community wise. And even then very few people will actually involve themselves in others when it's anything more than non-binding gesture.
Well everyone when they are young are taught by their parents that we cant help every person we see, whether it be a limiting factor as time, money or simply that a homeless person might be dangerous and/or unstable simply due to the fact they may be on drugs and/or alcohol to deal with the hardship of being homeless. Hence why we often displace this responsibility onto other organisations experienced at helping and housing these people such as charities or we advocate for changes we think might assist people such as social policies and programs.

If you read stories about China you'd know what humans are capable of when the culture lacks an intrinsic value for human life, which is a big part of Abrahamic religions.
Ergh china, yeah Id place much of the blame of the atrocities as the problems you get when you believe in a collectivist ideology. When Individuals are seen as a threat to the collective and you are willing to sacrifice this for the 'greater good' you get some truly heinous shit. There is a reason why they deserve the moniker 'bugmen' they literally behave no better or intelligently than a colony of ants.

Id agree that the teachings of especially abrahamic religion are useful for codifying and spreading these values so they can be passed on through generations.

But regardless, arguing that empathy is giving value to life is ridiculous. All of us will feel more empathic to a starving dog than to a starving homeless, does that mean the dog is more deserving of life?
Is it? A lot of why we value human beings come from loving our family and friends. Forming connections with acquaintances and lovers. We learn to love people by surrounding ourselves with people we value and respect.

I bet most of the nihlist edgy fags you can find are often from broken homes or bad families and have few friends and are often suicidal as it might be difficult to value the lives of others if you dont even value your own.

In regards to the dog thing I wouldnt inherently put a persons life above a dogs unless I know the person did some heinous shit. Which makes me thunk perhaps we assign value to a person based on our knowledge of them ie. Pedos are worthless
 
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You need god.

Otherwise you’ll just have people lighting cities on fire 2 years ago over a black guy with his harem of wives and kids he couldn’t care less about when he OD’d on Fentanyl. You’ll take away hope, an idea to cling up to when a person’s friends and family abandons them for either having different ideas or die because of a cheap knock-off virus made in China. A god who’ll love you no matter how much crap you’ve been into, and even if you mess up, if you realize and learn from your mistakes, someone will forgive you even if everyone around you won’t. There’s a hand to reach out for to get back up, keep going, this isn’t your end yet, keep running, there’s room for you to grow, there's more pages to write about you so you got yourself an epic that needs to be written, there’s more chances for you to get better. More chances for you to reach a kingdom where nothing grows old, whither and die. A place where trends don't grow stale and out of place, a kingdom to escape from the rat race that makes you compromise your ideals, beliefs and convictions just to get by and put food on the table. After all the crap we've seen in the past two years, do you really want to live forever with these people? These "progressives", whether they be under the cloak of religion or secular science? Comforting to know that at the end of the day if you ever felt like your victims of injustices, everyone will get their sentence in the end. Whether heaven sent above, or hellbent below.

Organized religion like Catholicism and Islam are just bastardization of the good word, For examples, refusing to eat meat on Fridays mean your guarantee to go into heaven, so go slander people’s name so they can’t find work in an industry, curse behind their backs, make their lives miserable. Oh, you don’t eat pork? Hey why not go send death threats, torch a person’s house, make that person scared, go jump into an old woman’s house and rape her in her sleep. After all, you're a good boy, a good girl, a good transgender for not eating meat on Fridays. You're a good person for not eating pork, fasting for a month. So you're holier than your other brothers and sisters. So relax. Your path to heaven is guaranteed, and even more so if you're fighting against the unbelievers, even if they follow the bible or say the Quran word by word. So go have fun. Start a crusade, get a holy war going. You've earned it sport.

Well, doesn’t that mean Christianity or god doesn’t work since you’ve had people burning cities peacefully 2 years ago? The fact you have families and friends abandon each other for different opinion, doesn't that mean religion like Christianity has failed in its holy purpose to say keep the family together, maintain moral integrity, etc...? There are Christians who treat you like trash for not being “progressives” enough, or not having god on your side. Then you got those people that preach out loud in public like they’re possessed by a spell or schizophrenic.

But can I say, when was the last time you saw a white supremacist burn down cities? Or seen a Christian “peacefully protest” in a major city? And if you see "Christians" act like self-righteous hypocrites, would you really call them a Christian, much less want to be with them?

I'll leave a quote from Casanova to Voltaire while they we're playing Chess at the latter's estate in Ferney: "Men will never give up superstitions. For men do not bow to men".
 
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Most forms of governing are abhorrent. The necessity for control over man by a central power is an aberration of man. Furthermore, overshooting to a theocracy that would exile non-believers was more of a knee-jerk response to someone who just wants to stir up trouble instead of offering actual talking points.

Many countries require religion as part of the school curriculum. Italy, Latvia, Germany, Japan, Finland, and Austria to name some. Unfortunately just about every majority Christian country has abolished Christianity in favor of secularism, and it's played out horribly for countries that haven't adopted policy to reflect it. Austrians are taught Islam and Christianity side-by-side in school. Islam is entering the curriculum (to some resistance) in France and Germany. Secularism doesn't help these countries, it perverts the message for all parties and generates division. True secularism as in America has created the hell we live in now.

Let's also recognize that the land of the free was not up for grabs by just anyone in the world in the late 18th century. From 1790 to 1870 the 1790 Naturalization Act only allowed whites of good moral character. Arabs and Islamic extremists couldn't exactly fly a plane into Massachusetts. The US census doesn't have data on religion but it does have data on race. From 1790 to 1940, the percentage of white people in America increased overall to a high of 89.8%. We can assume that the remaining 11.2% are mostly black and Hispanic. Most natives have been killed or pushed out of mainstream society, Hispanics from Mexico, and blacks from the slave trade. Most of this entire group will be practising some form or Christianity with a sizeable minority of Jews, or will have been raised with those values. Secularism doesn't hurt here. It's a relatively homogeneous population all practising the same overall values and traditions. Jews homogenized themselves in different regions, like Haredi (orthodox) Jews almost entirely being within the Northeast or the Amish being concentrated in the Midwest.
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Then in the 1950s something begins to change. Finally in 1952, the Immigration Act is changed to stop barring Asians from coming to America. In 1965 the American Naturalization Act (Hart-Celler Act)is changed and no longer has determinations or quotas based on where you're from or what you look like and it's designed to attract foreign skilled labour. From this point on, immigration keeps opening up more and more and more up until where we are now.

If we're talking about proper American heritage passed down from our forefathers, you need to enter the argument with a few perspective changes in mind. Firstly, everyone that was invited to America was a white denominational Christian from Europe. Second, regardless of their takes and opinions on Deism and Rationality, I've already shown in other posts that even though federal documentation was secular, society at large was  not, as evidenced by the God-fearing language in nearly every state's constitution. The US was designed so that each state could create their own regulations and be their own 'country' in a way, and so non-secular language in the federal documentation would force everyone to recognize a single form or denomination of faith, defeating one of the purposes of having freedom of religion in federal documentation. We've already destroyed proper American heritage. Some parts for the better, some parts not so much. If Islam had been seeping into European education systems back then as it is now, do you think they'd be so quick to allow freedom of religion?
Thanks for reminding me how utterly embarrassing I was.
btw tl;dr
 
Considering that most of America still professes religious belief, and yet society still displeases you suggests there are problems other than Atheism afoot OP.

It might be worth reading Nietzche for this. Despite the memeing and the "Nothing matters!" goff deth shit, Nietzche actually clicked to the change in the air regarding the change in perception of faith and God much, much earlier than many others did.

Try looking up his thoughts on the "Shadow of God". Nietzche mused that even in his time, the notion of deity had become romanticised and presented an image that would have been totally alien even in the age of Enlightenment when apparently all the dark heresies of modernity supposedly exploded onto the world.

I think the claim that America is founded on Christianity is ludicrous. I would however agree it is the product of a series of ideas that came about because of Christianity. The notion of ones own freedom, or individuality is a concept that didn't really carry weight prior to Christianity in the west. For certain, there were Platonists who talked about ones own soul in a rather abstract sense but these were highbrow academics pondering the likes of the "Unknown God" of whom Paul spoke about in Athens within the Bible itself. This wasn't a personal anthromorphic deity mind you, more a series of negatives to illustrate a philosophical concept.

No. Early Western Religion was rather like many Asian religions today. Some traits such as community, family, preparing for posterity may be familiar. Others such as the collective before the self, filial piety above ones own thoughts etc are far less so. Lets not decieve ourselves that Abrahamic religion is clan centric in the same way Confucianism is; in the words of the big man himself "Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his own household".

Western community, tradition and morality was not upheld by this in the height of a united known Europe/Western Civilization. It was activley destroyed and replaced by something new. Something new which ultimatley came to be seen as better by some, and worse by others.

America is in the same spot today. It has a decaying ideology (not purely Christian) that no longer resonates with large portions of society, the same problem that faced the People of various countries during the Axial age when most of the "Great Religions" formed in the wake of new problems and new challenges.

Could this lead to less freedom? Potentially yes, in the sense that we recognise it but it's not as if freedom is a universal value. The Middle East, Russia and China have been fairly consistent in tossing that concept out at every possible opportunity. Even the most "Yankee Pozzed" civilizations like Japan and Korea still don't really entertain this idea. Will it lead to less freedom? Not necessarily; it's not as if the people under the 1% on minimum wage or the people in Pureto Rico who pay taxes without representation really have freedom like you may do at the moment anyway; maybe they might see an improvement? Maybe some will fall, maybe some will rise.

If anything, the notion of the individual above the king, above the clergy and above the ancestors is a grave heresy in Western tradition and many an alleged "enlightened" monarch raged about how "Mob Rule" bringing freedom was laughable. Pius IX of the Catholic Church and Leo XIII both thought the idea that your neighbours all deciding what you may or may not do could be in any way "free" was at best amusing, and at worst tyrannical. America at the time of independance wasn't some return or creation of some mythical state of grace. It was a change. Maybe good, maybe bad. But it's going to change. The only thing static is a corpse.
 
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Pretty sure for the free world, the principles held dear don't need "Because God" as a reason, and can be rationalized out. At best, "because God" is only gonna assuage the dumb people who can't or won't rationalize out their principles and why some things need to be done.
Instead of God/Christianity.

Rather than God, what much of the free world needs right now is to give meaning to a lot of people's lives and a general unification of different groups currently heavily against each other (ironically, a lot of people within these groups are effectively religious zealots.) Problem with this kind of unification is it's gonna take either a long-term effort where everyone has to work together to improve it, or the Stalin method of "shoot anyone who disagrees." The other problem is a lot of the people currently in power don't want people to come together, because that would set the people against them. So they run shit like unequal enforcement of law, constant divisive messaging, political posturing and shit; because dividing and conquering the populace keeps them from uniting and building everyone up.

To give a metaphor, if society was a lasagna, the layers would be made up of things like "rule of law", "social cohesion through similarity", economic well-being", etc., etc. Right now, many sections of that are basically gone, and others are messed up and need repair or replacement. Could religion do that? Possibly, in a few places; but it's not a necessity. At best, the addition of God that way would assuage the dumbest people within society, who actually NEED God to function on a day-to-day basis. For everyone else, bringing back Christianity might be a quick fix, but highly unlikely to work, short of brainwashing or coercing them (which will lead to it's own set of issues.)
 
"I believe in the Lord for the same reason I believe in the sun: not because I can see it, but because by it, I can see everything else."
 
My belief in the spiritual and existence of a higher power only increased (hugely) after ditching Christianity.
Its a spiritually schizophrenic, cobbled together mess of a religion, and no I am NOT talking about denominational differences. The core doctrines of original sin, hell, the atonement, and a whole lot more are fucked up, needing centuries if not millennia worth of intellectuals to come up with copes for them to survive even light scrutiny.
I mean really - the concept of eternal hell is incredibly immoral and unjustifiable when you get down to the guts of it. Good thing its fake as fuck.

So yes, I can buy that belief in a higher power is a requirement, possibly one of many, for a free world. Assuming we can agree on what free actually means.
But if its gotta be your bullshit guilt tripping, Constantinian amalgam of various pre-Christian cults around a YHWH kike core, you can fuck off and die on the vine like the rest of your brain damaged pals.
 
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I know I said that I said all I want to say, but I thought of some other things.

-OP mentioned things that "moved people away from the Light". What qualifies? Certain music? Toys? Vidya games? Role Playing Games? Paraphenalia from non Christian religions? If this involves contraband laws, how will they be effectively enforced especially in the age of the internet? Can I keep my collection of obscure scananavian metal and original D&D books?
-Will people be allowed to work on Sunday?
-Will Biblical dietary restrictions be incorporated into the law? If not, why?
-Which, if any, denominations of Chrisitanity will be deemed too Out There to qualify as believing in God?
-Speaking of which, will non Christian Theistic faiths be allowed to propagate?
 
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