GOG.com Backtracks on Devotion Release After Allegedly Receiving “Messages From Gamers”


TL;DR far from every other "country" (gubmint) is fine with their own leaders being mocked, and some will even go after you for insulting Xi.


I joined when they were still in beta. According to locals, GOG has been crumbling / "crumbling" since September 2010 at the latest. Some of the points in the drama include:
- the Sep 2010 publicity stunt and the (now beloved and dearly missed, then mocked and despised on a private forum) Trevor Longino
- selling new games
- selling DLC
- selling season passes
- preorder exclusives
- the lack of Linux versions even when they're available on other stores
- slow support, requests going missing
- important announcements on social media only
- slow game updates (lazy staff, contracts with shitty developers)
- castrated game versions
- how do you do fellow kids anti-DRM initiative
- regional prices
- the end of compensation for regional pricing
- generally incoherent pricing policy
- giveaways on social media
- shitty treatment of contest winners
- closing the Brazilian store and forum
- the many moderation sagas
- website redesign
- deleting community collections
- shitty forum software (usabilty problems, massive security flaws)
- GOG Galaxy
- Galaxy installer embedded in DRM-free installers
- Gwent (the videogame)
- game rejections
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I didn't know most of these problems, damn. I did notice one game lacking the same amount of dlc compared to it's steam counterpart. Can you elaborate on problems you listed?
 
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I didn't know most of these problems, damn. I did notice one game lacking the same amount of dlc compared to it's steam counterpart. Can you elaborate on problems you listed?
These are just the sagas that had the forum regulars' panties in a bunch, not all of them are problems. For the record, I don't blame GOG for backing out of selling Devotion (unless it comes up on Steam).

The current and past problems:
(some of those aren't so much ongoing problems as broken promises, so people expect more promises to be broken)
  • Some games have native Linux versions on Steam and don't have them on GOG, for unknown reasons. Sometimes the Linux versions vanish between announcement and release.
  • Support can be slow and people complain on the forums. I don't know what hours they now work, but it gets worse when requests get outright lost and you don't know if they had. "Because of covid" blah blah - did you cut staff? No? Then why blame covid?
  • They used to make announcements on social media only, forum users got pissed. Now they make forum threads and send emails.
  • GOG fired a well-liked and based mod and fucked up his life (he'd moved to Poland from bongistan to work) on the orders from some rapist troons on twitter.
  • Game updates can be slow. Some developers outright refuse to support GOG versions because of low sales compared to Steam (duh), others blame GOG.
  • Some games' features depend on Steamworks and are missing on GOG. Some of them are inconsequential (leaderboards), others important (level of the day, mods, MULTIPLAYER).
  • Regional prices can be strange. A guy on the forums made a tool to document all the discrepancies. Plus, the number of regions is smaller than on Steam, and many shitholes get "rest of the world" (US) prices. Sometimes GOG's prices are a couple eurobucks higher than Steam's and people complain about the "drm-free surcharge".
  • They used to give store credit to people who have to pay more than the US price. This has since ended.
  • It took GOG a looooooooong time (years?) to announce winners and award prizes for some contests.
  • The Brazilian store is now closed, the forum is read-only and there's no Brazilian support anymore. The forum closing was what pissed off people the most, as posting in Brazilian Portuguese is now prohibited.
  • There used to be community collections which people used to recommend and annotate games. The feature went south pretty much immediately, as a user made an idiotic "puzzle" and asked to upvote his two collections, which he named "win a GOG game free". People were upvoting, then asking on the forum how to win a game years after. Some collections were critical in nature, calling out games for bad support and general shittiness. Anyway! This feature and the community content were killed in one of the redesigns.
  • Google scripts and other social media malware is everywhere. Supposedly you can't checkout now without allowing Google.
  • Forum software is super buggy and used to allow arbitrary html and javascript. (Maybe it still does.) GOG appears to be unwilling to move to Xenforo, which people interpret as a sign they want to shutter the forum.
  • Regulars hate Galaxy because it runs contrary to the DRM-free promise(**reasons). Game updates are first released on Galaxy, then as offline installers. Sometimes offline installers significantly lag behind Galaxy versions.
  • Offline installers used to contain the Galaxy installer - you'd download what you think is a pristine offline game and it'd install Galaxy anyway and prevent the game from launching without it unless you uncheck the hidden box. It also increased the size of the installer - if you bought and downloaded several games, the installer was embedded in each one. Then they promised optional Galaxy-free installers but you had to pick the correct version on a per-file basis, which people also hated. I think they're now Galaxy-free only.
  • When they introduced user profiles, they made them public and findable by email.
  • The bonuses for Cyberpunk require Galaxy and are thus DRM'ed.

The dramas/bullshit:
  • Sep 2010 is when they announced they can't continue as-is and closed the site for two days. It was a publicity stunt.
  • GOG used tot stand for "good old games". People still bitch there aren't enough old games.
  • Regional prices, horse piss DLC, season passes, and preorder exclusives were points of contention when they were introduced (all broken promises); GOG promised to only sell substantial packs and is now selling cheats for jrpgs. (Broken promises are collectively called "good news", per another PR blunder.) They made an ohsoclever poll about possible changes in which majorities voted yes to all the consumer-unfriendly stuff and a sizable minority voted yes to DRM in general, which turned into a majority having been provided a concrete example of a DRMed game.
  • They used to announce giveaways and contests on social media only, forum users only found out when a normal user made a forum post. These days, GOG posts announcements on the forum and forum users bitch they can't participate due to not having social media.
  • Users have a forum-wide reputation score and can be easily downvoted to oblivion.
  • There used to be frequent giveaways with entitled cunts on both sides. People would stanch codes with bots, downvote givers when they didn't win, and scam, and givers would hold a shitty code hostage demanding their threads be bumped until their conditions were met.
  • You can't block a forum user. A user wrote a simple browser userscript that'd hide specific users' (your choice, no centralized source, just a list within the .js file) threads and posts and some regulars went apeshit and seriously called for his head. I KNOW THIS WILL BE USED AGAINST ME. HOW DO YOU EVEN DARE TO NOT WANT TO READ MY POSTS. WHY DO YOU HATE ME. YOU WANT ME GONE. YOU WANT ME DEAD. OK FINE, FUCK YOU, I'LL KILL MYSELF IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. This was my first time seeing psychos in the wild without a chain link fence in between. Search for "jerkmuter", those threads were laugh riots.
  • You could block PMs but not if the other user blocks you first. Harassers would PM abuse to a target, then block him/her. Unblock-shit-block, repeat forever. I think this has been fixed.
  • There used to be a lightweight Flash downloader that forum regulars liked to use to download offline installers. Now they're told to use Galaxy. Some users wrote homebrew tools (e.g. gogrepo.py) which are showcased as proof of GOG's incompetence.
  • The central General forum was a rich pasture for cows, some of them were at times banned, unbanned, asked for bans, demanded things from mods under threat of asking to be banned, etc, etc. There used to be an adult baby (either a troon or a sold account) who typed in babytalk.
  • Gwent, being an online card game with microtransactions, is of course DRM'ed. This is A Sign of Things to Come.
  • When games (typically shitty ones) get rejected, regulars bitch a lot. There are several soy users who demand GOG sell every SJW bundle fodder in existence and/or have Officially Given Up on GOG because they won't. If a game they demand gets released, they'd interpret it as a sign of weakness and rage even more.
  • Reviews can't be edited. (This isn't much of a drawback, as traffic is low and review discovery is nil and top reviews stay on top for a long time, which would provide the opportunity for exploits: post early, get yours upvoted, then edit the content to gamer words).
 
You know what? Call me a shill, but I find Chinese censorship a hell of a lot less depressing then troon and american racial censorship. I doubt China is going to put embargo on "Images of happy white families" any time soon.

Yeah it's retarded you can't say "Winnie the Flu". You know what impact that has on my work life? Zero.
You know what impact Critical Race Theory has on my work life? QUITE A FUCKING LOT.
"Marriott, the international mega hotel chain, fired a low-level social media employee after he accidentally liked a tweet that offended the Chinese government.

Roy Jones, a 49-year-old based in Omaha, Nebraska, worked in Marriott’s customer engagement center. On January 14, Jones was fired for liking a tweet from the Marriott Rewards official twitter account.

The tweet? A post from a Tibetan separatist group that praised Marriott for calling Tibet a country, instead of a part of China, in an online survey the company had sent out."

They can stretch that tiny chinese dick all across the world to fuck you in the ass.
 
I joined when they were still in beta. According to locals, GOG has been crumbling / "crumbling" since September 2010 at the latest. Some of the points in the drama include:

- Galaxy installer embedded in DRM-free installers
I experienced that when I installed Freespace 2, wasn't a huge fan of it. The whole reason that I ever grabbed a game off Gog was to play something old (and less than $5) without jumping through hoops to get it working, but some of their old titles still require patching up. After this China stuff though...and the fact that I buy games maybe three times a year, I won't be GoGGing anymore.
 
I've started buying PC games with the physical data on the disc again.

Yes they still exist and are being made in 2020. You can even buy a portable USB anime themed DVD-RW disc drive to play them.
I just refuse to buy games that I can't store on a disk and play on their own. I never saw the novelty in discs as a medium but the boxes were and are awesome.

We're at a point now where the full game library on a computer is so large that there are enough good games to last an actual lifetime, I wish people didn't limit the time period of games they play so much
Now how am I supposed to get my DRM-free games now? I guess ichtio and some steam games would do?
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Agreed, the world is a fuck and at least 50% of "why" is because of the jews chinese. Seriously, fuck China and the hypernationalist retards who discovered the non-CCP internet
 
"Marriott, the international mega hotel chain, fired a low-level social media employee after he accidentally liked a tweet that offended the Chinese government.

Roy Jones, a 49-year-old based in Omaha, Nebraska, worked in Marriott’s customer engagement center. On January 14, Jones was fired for liking a tweet from the Marriott Rewards official twitter account.

The tweet? A post from a Tibetan separatist group that praised Marriott for calling Tibet a country, instead of a part of China, in an online survey the company had sent out."

They can stretch that tiny chinese dick all across the world to fuck you in the ass.
Tbh I find this article burying the lede more objectionable than that firing. He was fired for failing at his job and mismanaging the account.

GOG firing their social media guy was GOG bending over for girldick despite their best interests: games are overwhelmingly bought by normal people who are best served by a normal social media manager.

The customers of the Marriott Rewards program are people who travel frequently and stay in Marriott hotels - thus, a lot of them are rich Chinese, who benefit from China's current regime and love it or pretend to love it to keep the renminbi flowing. What I find objectionable is the existence of the Marriott chain and their whole customer base -- but not the notion of firing a social media manager for insulting the customers. (Plus he was probably trained not to "like" any political shit.)

Not to mention, territory is srs business. It's one thing to wish a more competent government for your beloved homeland and quite another to wish for it to fall into ruin. I make no secret of hating the current Russian government and I think Crimea and Donbas are Ukraine. But look, the queen of bongland officially gave Siberia to some traitor faggot the other month, as a reward for being a traitor faggot. I think both of them, and also most of the British govt, should be perfumed in minecraft for it.

(Also fuck Tibet.)
 
Hey its not like any other country or (((ethnicity))) does this, only China does, right guys? I mean look at how you can't even challange the six gorillion number or offend (((Them))) and ya'll are bitching about the chinks being assmad their big grorious reader got joked at.

I mean the whole western world is the (((kikes))) bootlick slaves so why are you guys all bitching about their competitors? I'm smelling something kosher here.
(((Oy vey yellow merchant don't you know that only us happy merchants can do that?)))
 
Unlike other countries, China can and will gladly cut business ties to prove a point. Unless someone has a death wish they are not going to hesitate to say "We don't do business with people who have no respect for us" and cut all ties, costumers on the other side be damned. The Marriot incident included financial damages for the hotel

China forced Marriott to suspend all online booking for a week at its nearly 300 Chinese hotels. A Chinese leader also demanded the company publicly apologize and “seriously deal with the people responsible,” the Journal reported

GoG can go and agree and say fuck China but that will mean they will pull support for any game that had Chinese investments in it from GoG and Steam since Steam is effectively tied at the womb with GoG. So a company that picked up EGS endorsement money will get calls from Tencent on removing their game from GoG or they will have discussions on why the company doesn't deserve investment money and business insiders can and will talk.
 
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