Good media that should never have been made

every fandom is cancer

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This rule is damn fuckin' true across absolutely everything. Basically, groups of people who congregate around any piece of media start out fine, but then the craziest ones tend to rise to the top and start dominating the group, and then the inevitable cancer of a fandom emerges. If you could go back in time and wipe some property with a super cancerous fandom from existence, those crazies would still be crazy and just congregate around something else. Keep wiping things from history and they'll keep finding new shit to congregate around. Autism knows no bounds, we all know this, even Taco Bell has a wiki. Take away the Bible and the Quran and you'll have enormous groups of people killing each other for hundreds of years because they can't agree on if the McGangbang should become a legit menu item.
 
It probably wasn't the first, but The Martian was the first time I really noticed the blatant China pandering and China wank in a modern movie. Now there have been a lot of movies since then with that in it. Good movie but that shit was annoying.
Show. Us. Gameplay. Then. Your. Game. Is. Supposed. To. Come. Out. This. Fucking. Year.
Adding onto this I had a similar reaction to seeing the original trailer for Death Stranding. I saw it as everything wrong with modern game trailers. It told us absolutely nothing, it showed no gameplay whatsoever, it was just a bunch of weird imagery and shit just made to look cool. I'm fucking sick of these big budget game trailers that don't show gameplay. At least back in E3 2006 for Halo 3 it's the third game in a trilogy and we know what it's going to look like and how it will play.
 
Fast and Furious

Take Fight Club, miss the point of it, then turn it into a series. It's one of the more obnoxious examples of early 2000s hedonism that probably laid foundation to the contemptuous nigger culture of the 2010s.
 
Whedon and JJ Abrams are the two most responsible for the current morass modern pop-culture is in.

I would like to add the 2007 Transformers film to the list. While a more or less fun and well-done movie on its own, it spawned a bunch of poorly written non-nonsensical sequels that nonetheless managed to break the box office every time. It also thinks it really started the trend of trying to revive and edge-up 1980's children's properties.
One of the Transformers sequels (I think Revenge of the Fallen) was written around the time of the writer's strike and when it made a significant profit execs realized that they don't need to hire actual writers for movies, we saw what happened next.

As for Abrams, I can't tell what he made that made him and Bad Robot get so much clout in Hollywood but it should never have been made. The man and his company are responsible for the biggest hollywood dumpsterfires in recent memory and they keep getting away with it. After burning down Star Trek and Star Wars Bad Robot is in the process of torching LotR with two litereally who showrunners who Abrams probably got in the door just to see if he could get away with it.
 
"Humans are the real monsters" is a 2 deep 4 u plot cliché that pre dates the show but The Walking Dead really saturated it into the mainstream.
I loved how Left 4 Dead poked fun of this trope long before it started to gain traction.
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Anyway, for me that's The Last of Us. I watched an LP of it and while I think it's a good game, devs learned all the wrong lessons from it and tried to make all their games more "cinematic". And for a time they tried to ape the father/child dynamic in their games as well as have a bunch of sections where you aren't allowed to move faster than walking speed and having to listen to characters yammer on and on. Then the DLC came out and made Ellie, who at this point was barely a teenager have a gay relationship with another girl which I think help influenced the woke and pedophilic shit we see a lot of nowadays.
 
Every studio seemed to take the wrong lessons away from the success of The Avengers, and now more so than ever smaller movies are not making it to the theaters because they lack the event appeal of a franchise. On a similar note, the success of Spider-Man: No Way Home is going to lead to a glut of multiverse movies in which characters try to “fix” the “mistakes” of earlier movies. I guess you could make an argument that Final Fantasy VII Remake walked so Spider-Man could run with that concept.
 
Off topic but please for the love of God explain to me why people like danganronpa. Starting reading the VN and it's some of the stupidest shit I've ever seen how do people take this seriously.
it was my shit in high school.

i just loved the crazy visuals and psycho pop aesthetics. sometimes absurdism > realism
 
One of the Transformers sequels (I think Revenge of the Fallen) was written around the time of the writer's strike and when it made a significant profit execs realized that they don't need to hire actual writers for movies, we saw what happened next.
There were already movies that were stupid as shit prior to the writer's strike, but the writer's strike only made things that much worse.

Then the generation that grew up under that idiotic cultural climate grew up and went to college and got brainwashed by Marxism and now we have the nightmare we live in today.

You can trace modern Clown World all the way back to the 1990s sadly, it's just a matter of degrees, but American culture started getting real dumbed down a long time ago and that eventually blossomed into Woke, which is what you get when you combine Jerry Springer style idiocy with good old fashioned hardcore Marxism, it's perfectly horrible.

As for Abrams, I can't tell what he made that made him and Bad Robot get so much clout in Hollywood but it should never have been made. The man and his company are responsible for the biggest hollywood dumpsterfires in recent memory and they keep getting away with it. After burning down Star Trek and Star Wars Bad Robot is in the process of torching LotR with two litereally who showrunners who Abrams probably got in the door just to see if he could get away with it.
It was Lost, it's hilarious that you don't even remember Abrams was one of the guys that gave us Lost because Lost is so forgotten now, but at the time it was a bonafide cultural phenomenon that had whole conventions dedicated just to it and some people even compared it to Star Wars, which is especially funny in hindsight.

Abrams really seemed like a guy who had his pulse on the culture, I really enjoyed the 2009 Star Trek movie, it felt fresh, exciting, Abrams really did seem like a new golden boy, I don't know what went wrong, maybe he just cracked under the pressure, but all his potential was wasted.

Anyway, for me that's The Last of Us. I watched an LP of it and while I think it's a good game, devs learned all the wrong lessons from it and tried to make all their games more "cinematic". And for a time they tried to ape the father/child dynamic in their games as well as have a bunch of sections where you aren't allowed to move faster than walking speed and having to listen to characters yammer on and on. Then the DLC came out and made Ellie, who at this point was barely a teenager have a gay relationship with another girl which I think help influenced the woke and pedophilic shit we see a lot of nowadays.
I loved The Last of Us 1, I don't think the issue is devs taking the wrong lessons from it's mechanics, I think the issue is just that things went Woke.

Last of Us 1 is very non-Woke, black characters are introduced only to soon be killed off, the strong black woman character is ultimately revealed to be a villain and our white male protagonist coldly shoots her in the face, said white male protagonist has to protect the young female character from harm (though she is shown to be capable of taking care of herself as well)

It's no wonder the first thing on the agenda for the sequel was to kill that white male character off, but I remember playing the DLC in 2014 and I still remember that kind of sinking feeling in my gut when it reveals Ellie is gay, same feeling I had when playing Gone Home in 2013, I just pretty much knew that was the start of something not good for video games.
 
There would be no scream without New Nightmare. But Scream did rejuvinate the horror genre in the late 90s.

It was Lost, it's hilarious that you don't even remember Abrams was one of the guys that gave us Lost because Lost is so forgotten now, but at the time it was a bonafide cultural phenomenon that had whole conventions dedicated just to it and some people even compared it to Star Wars, which is especially funny in hindsight.

Abrams really seemed like a guy who had his pulse on the culture, I really enjoyed the 2009 Star Trek movie, it felt fresh, exciting, Abrams really did seem like a new golden boy, I don't know what went wrong, maybe he just cracked under the pressure, but all his potential was wasted.
He also created Felicity and Alias. Both pretty big shows. Also directed Mission Impossible 3.
 
The Nintendo Wii. It was a fun game console with some fun games but Nintendo learned bad lessons from it.
Nintendo going full on Blue Ocean strategy was a good bold move at the time but it has turned out to not always succeed.
Nintendo learned that innovation doesn't completely matters only gimmicks can do just that. This was also the moment Nintendo became completely apathetic to AAA 3rd party support.
The nintendo fanbase also began this live off of cope and defend every time Nintendo did a stupid around the time of the Wii and continue to do so till this day.
 
Fast and Furious

Take Fight Club, miss the point of it, then turn it into a series. It's one of the more obnoxious examples of early 2000s hedonism that probably laid foundation to the contemptuous nigger culture of the 2010s.

I wonder, had The Fast and the Furious series ended before it went into the obnoxious insane shit, and stayed with it's original premise of car culture, would it not have been as reviled?
 
I wonder, had The Fast and the Furious series ended before it went into the obnoxious insane shit, and stayed with it's original premise of car culture, would it not have been as reviled?

This is a story as old as the first modern box office hit, stretch it on for too long and even the legacy starts to look stale by association.
 
Buffy The Vampire Slayer
Resident Evil 4
Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Scream
28 Days Later
Ok, Buffy probably. Spawned Bayotits somewhat.
Resident Evil 4 was a good spin of the tank controls in earlier instances. But yeah, spawned some cheap knock-offs.
Skyrim basically worsened Bethesda's Game Studios in terms of quality. Not for some reason Fallout 4 shares a similar system.
Idk about the others.
 
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I wonder, had The Fast and the Furious series ended before it went into the obnoxious insane shit, and stayed with it's original premise of car culture, would it not have been as reviled?
If it ended after Tokyo Drift it would have just been forgotten to time until some modern hipster decided to reboot it on Netflix. They only made a fourth one because Vin Diesel turned into box office poison and I guess someone owed him a favor.

>Inception

Hey, I thought this thread was about good media?
 
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