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Google to delete inactive accounts starting December​

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May 16 (Reuters) - Alphabet Inc's (GOOGL.O) Google on Tuesday said it would delete accounts that had remained unused for two years starting December, in a bid to prevent security threats including hacks.

The company said that if a Google account had not been used or signed into for at least two years, it might delete the account and content across Google Workspace, which includes Gmail, Docs, Drive, Meet and Calendar, as well as YouTube and Google Photos.

The policy change only applies to personal Google Accounts and not to those for organizations like schools or businesses.

In 2020, Google had said it would remove content stored in an inactive account, but not delete the account itself.

Starting Tuesday, Google will send multiple notifications to the account email address and recovery mail of the inactive accounts before deletion.

Last week, Elon Musk said Twitter would remove accounts that have been inactive for several years and archive them, saying that the action is "important to free up abandoned handles."


[OP note: Here's the actual Google blogpost]
https://www.blog.google/technology/safety-security/updating-our-inactive-account-policies/ [Archive]

Updating our inactive account policies​


People want the products and services they use online to be safe and secure. Which is why we have invested in technology and tools to protect our users from security threats, like spam, phishing scams and account hijacking.

Even with these protections, if an account hasn’t been used for an extended period of time, it is more likely to be compromised. This is because forgotten or unattended accounts often rely on old or re-used passwords that may have been compromised, haven't had two factor authentication set up, and receive fewer security checks by the user. Our internal analysis shows abandoned accounts are at least 10x less likely than active accounts to have 2-step-verification set up. Meaning, these accounts are often vulnerable, and once an account is compromised, it can be used for anything from identity theft to a vector for unwanted or even malicious content, like spam.

To reduce this risk, we are updating our inactivity policy for Google Accounts to 2 years across our products. Starting later this year, if a Google Account has not been used or signed into for at least 2 years, we may delete the account and its contents – including content within Google Workspace (Gmail, Docs, Drive, Meet, Calendar), YouTube and Google Photos.

The policy only applies to personal Google Accounts, and will not affect accounts for organizations like schools or businesses. This update aligns our policy with industry standards around retention and account deletion and also limits the amount of time Google retains your unused personal information.

We are going to roll this out slowly and carefully, with plenty of notice:

  • While the policy takes effect today, it will not immediately impact users with an inactive account — the earliest we will begin deleting accounts is December 2023.
  • We will take a phased approach, starting with accounts that were created and never used again.
  • Before deleting an account, we will send multiple notifications over the months leading up to deletion, to both the account email address and the recovery email (if one has been provided).

How to keep your account active

The simplest way to keep a Google Account active is to sign-in at least once every 2 years. If you have signed into your Google Account or any of our services recently, your account is considered active and will not be deleted. Activity might include these types of actions you take when you sign in or while you’re signed in to your Google Account:

  • Reading or sending an email
  • Using Google Drive
  • Watching a YouTube video
  • Downloading an app on the Google Play Store
  • Using Google Search
  • Using Sign in with Google to sign in to a third-party app or service
If you have an existing subscription set up through your Google Account, for example to Google One, a news publication or an app, we also consider this account activity and your account will not be impacted.

As previously announced, you will need to specifically sign in to Google Photos every 2 years to be considered active which will ensure your photos and other content are not deleted. Similarly, we will send multiple notifications before we take any action.


Creating a backup plan for your account and its content

We encourage users to provide a recovery email at sign-up. It's important to make sure this recovery email in your account settings is up-to-date.

We also offer a variety of free tools to help manage your account and provide options to backup your data.

You can download and export your data to other platforms through our Takeout feature, which has been available for over a decade. Similarly, Inactive Account Manager allows users to decide what happens to their account and data when it becomes inactive for a period of up to 18 months. Options users can select at enrollment include:

  • Sending specific files to trusted contacts of their choosing,
  • Applying a Gmail autoresponder, and
  • Deleting their account entirely
Today’s update helps us continue our advancements in account security, and helps reinforce our commitment to keep your private information private. For more information on this policy, please see our Help Center.


UPDATE:

Google is backing down on deleting old accounts that have uploaded Youtube videos... at least for now. They might still do it in the future when there's less backlash.
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They're saying they won't reuse usernames.

Some asshole pajeet should stop ddos'ing the farms and instead register every possible gmail acct that's less than clownpenis.fart
 
Can't help but be reminded of older Youtubers I used to watch who have actually died in the past 10+ years, or haven't uploaded in years whose work is going to be lost because of this. If they're really going to delete these accounts, this can't be good. I recall a few years before Blip shut down, they were going around systematically deleting accounts which weren't as making as much views as say a Doug Walker video because they weren't bringing in enough ad money. That level of scummy behavior, which is what we're seeing now, is not going to help Youtube I can imagine.
 
On one hand, it seems fairly simple. I'm sure they don't properly delete accounts, gotta keep that user data after all, but just remove most of the fluff and hide the rest from public view. It'd be trivial then to just keep the video portion around.

On the other hand it's google in 2023 so assuming any competency is highly 🌈
They don't need to keep an entire account to keep the useful metadata.
 
Can't help but be reminded of older Youtubers I used to watch who have actually died in the past 10+ years, or haven't uploaded in years whose work is going to be lost because of this. If they're really going to delete these accounts, this can't be good. I recall a few years before Blip shut down, they were going around systematically deleting accounts which weren't as making as much views as say a Doug Walker video because they weren't bringing in enough ad money. That level of scummy behavior, which is what we're seeing now, is not going to help Youtube I can imagine.

It's more than that. About 5 or 6 years ago I went to my liked videos. About half of them were missing. Supposedly through copyright claims. But co-incidentally many of them were videos like one of the montage of news segments detailing the millions that came up through Africa after the fall of Libya. Or the 2 German Women standing by filming a 5000 person Islamic march in Germany with them saying in the background "Wir werden nicht überleben" (We're not going to survive)

A lot of videos that were politically inconvenient for mass public consumption.
 
Google has backtracked on deleting old accounts with Youtube videos... at least for now.
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After someone questioned them about the wording in the blogpost, Google updated it.
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https://nitter.net/YouTubeLiaison/status/1658993115657809920 [Archive]

Updated blogpost:
https://archive.ph/fELoY
Starting later this year, if a Google Account has not been used or signed into for at least 2 years, we may delete the account and its contents – including content within Google Workspace (Gmail, Docs, Drive, Meet, Calendar) and Google Photos.
Additionally, we do not have plans to delete accounts with YouTube videos at this time.
[Emphasis mine - they're probably still planning on doing it sometime in the future when there's less backlash.]
 
Google has backtracked on deleting old accounts with Youtube videos... at least for now.
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https://nitter.net/YouTubeLiaison/status/1658993115657809920 [Archive]

Updated blogpost:
https://archive.ph/fELoY


[Emphasis mine - they're probably still planning on doing it sometime in the future when there's less backlash.]
Probably still a good idea to back stuff up.
 
Google has backtracked on deleting old accounts with Youtube videos... at least for now.
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[Emphasis mine - they're probably still planning on doing it sometime in the future when there's less backlash.]


Then why did they announce it in the first place?

They'll need something to distract everyone, then a few months after you'll go, hey.... where the hell did [video] go?
 
So why are both Twitter and Google doing this now? If I knew any better, I'd say it was because of the Biden investigation. Or it could be due to the recession we're having. Freeing up server space and using less space over all. Lowering operational costs.
Add Imgur to that list.

Someone should start an deactivated account holocaust megathread.

Edit: To echo what others' have said. This is an excuse to remove history from the internet. "What do you mean you could say nigger on the internet? No, No, No, peasant, don't believe your lying eyes, the internet was always this censored."

You can't rely on Archiving on the internet either, as they are not immune to external force pushing Twitter, Imgur and Google into deleting their old accounts. If you want anything keeping, download it onto physical storage and keep it yourself.

My tinfoil hat tingles when I think about what will happen to Pirate Bay; a site that has seen stealth deletions of old videos, going back years.
 
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Add Imgur to that list.

Someone should start an deactivated account holocaust megathread.

Edit: To echo what others' have said. This is an excuse to remove history from the internet. "What do you mean you could say nigger on the internet? No, No, No, peasant, don't believe your lying eyes, the internet was always this censored."

You can't rely on Archiving on the internet either, as they are not immune to external force pushing Twitter, Imgur and Google into deleting their old accounts. If you want anything keeping, download it onto physical storage and keep it yourself.

My tinfoil hat tingles when I think about what will happen to Pirate Bay; a site that has seen stealth deletions of old videos, going back years.

It's not necessarily about removing the videos entirely, it's about removing videos reach. Youtube has reach. I mean look at Kiwifarms. It was starting to gain reach. People on Twitter were starting to talk about Kiwifarms. It has nearly 100,000 members, and probably ten times as many readers.

They don't care if you are talking in your 5000 member forum. Not ones gonna see you, Google isn't gonna recommend you.

Sure you can still find a video after an hour of rumble, twitter and yandex searches, but the average person isn't gonna do that.

In fact I wonder if all the videos on Youtube will be still kept, to compare against any future uploads. As a sort of checksum. By Big Tech.

"Oop sorry, we've flagged that as an undesirable video, you can't upload that."
 
It's not necessarily about removing the videos entirely, it's about removing videos reach. Youtube has reach. I mean look at Kiwifarms. It was starting to gain reach. People on Twitter were starting to talk about Kiwifarms. It has nearly 100,000 members, and probably ten times as many readers.

They don't care if you are talking in your 5000 member forum. Not ones gonna see you, Google isn't gonna recommend you.

Sure you can still find a video after an hour of rumble, twitter and yandex searches, but the average person isn't gonna do that.

In fact I wonder if all the videos on Youtube will be still kept, to compare against any future uploads. As a sort of checksum. By Big Tech.

"Oop sorry, we've flagged that as an undesirable video, you can't upload that."
If that's the idea that Google is going for, would the same apply to Twitter and Imgur? Too many twitterers are gaining reach and need to be stopped?

Or, worst, doomsday scenario, are we witnessing the start of the tech-collapse? The bubble burst big in 2000/2001, are we seeing the first steps of tech-bubble-burst 2.0? Laying off employees and cutting down on server/storage costs as a desperate attempt to plug the holes in the damn?
 
I don't know how they could possibly get rid of an account without getting rid of everything associated with that account. Every Youtube account is a Google account now and has been for a decade. Is Google going to do what Nexus did with the Skyrim civil war mod?
What happened with the civil war mod?
 
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