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Gatdam Animal Person said:
It's always nice to have a 8TB hard drive for hoarding data, and they're cheaper than equivalent SSDs.
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The last time I bought a hdd the biggest one i could get was around 4tb. Now I see ssd's with multiple terabytes selling for the same price as a 4tb hdd back in the day. When I built my computer in the late 10s you didn't buy an ssd for space, it was os and programs only. Tbh I don't need 8tb.
 
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Judge Dredd said:
I remember a time, must have been about a decade ago, when people wouldn't shut up about getting a "Tomato compatible router". These days I never hear about them.

According to google, Tomato is basically open source custom firmware. Do any kiwis know why people were so obsessed with it and what the benefits were?
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Tomato was really nice, it was more stable than the regular firmware(no more pull the plug, plug it back in), way more options than the standard firmware, it supported QoS and OpenVPN plus the interface wasn't complete dogshit like on many routers.
This was all back when I used the WRT54G so quite a while ago. Consumer wifi routers seem way better now, though the interfaces tend to be labyrinthine ass even after all this time.
Tomato was also just a simpler and more user friendly version of WRT.

rules of nature said:
The last time I bought a hdd the biggest one i could get was around 4tb. Now I see ssd's with multiple terabytes selling for the same price as a 4tb hdd back in the day. When I built my computer in the late 10s you didn't buy an ssd for space, it was os and programs only. Tbh I don't need 8tb.
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One annoying thing with HDDs is that they can slow down a system with a fast SSD in certain instances which is annoying. Boot times will be affected and for some reason windows will sometimes spin up D: when I open an image. I just want to look at the 96KB dog image on my desktop, why is this taking four seconds(sometimes).


In other news Intel is pulling out of the Optane business, both the SSDs and RAM.
 
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Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
Tomato was really nice, it was more stable than the regular firmware(no more pull the plug, plug it back in), way more options than the standard firmware, it supported QoS and OpenVPN plus the interface wasn't complete dogshit like on many routers.
This was all back when I used the WRT54G so quite a while ago. Consumer wifi routers seem way better now, though the interfaces tend to be labyrinthine ass even after all this time.
Tomato was also just a simpler and more user friendly version of WRT.


In other news Intel is pulling out of the Optane business, both the SSDs and RAM.
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I'm sorry what does tomato do exactly? From what I read on wikiepdia it seems like it turns the bios into a operating system.
 
rules of nature said:
I'm sorry what does tomato do exactly? From what I read on wikiepdia it seems like it turns the bios into a operating system.
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You know how when you go to 192.168.0.1 to configure router shit? It replaces that with better firmware(maybe think of it like the operating system of the device) and a better frontend to interact with it. Its got more options and more features as well to set up the network just like how you want it. It also gets updates unlike many routers that ship with a "eh, good enough" firmware.

Or maybe think of it like installing Linux on your router and being smug about it.
 
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I am having trouble with my machine, after leaving it off for a couple hours the first time it attempts to boot it does not post, turns off and on again then works.
The machine turns off when the dram led lights up, so I tried reseating ram and using other ram sticks altogether but it only made it worse, now occasionally it bootloops and I have to reseat ram multiple times to get it to boot.
Once turned on the computer works flawlessly, no bsods or anything.
Memtest86 shows no issues after 4 passes, I updated bios and changed cmos battery too.
So I think mobo is on the death bed, not sure how to confirm this besides wait until it refuses to turn on regardless of what I do.
As for a replacement, is there a difference between b450 and b550 chipsets? I would like to upgrade cpu in the future but I see both of them already support latest gen ryzen.

As an additional note, I lose display altogether if I plug any usb device that has power in it, say if I plug a printer and it is plugged into power, I lose display, but not if it is not plugged in.
 
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rules of nature said:
The last time I bought a hdd the biggest one i could get was around 4tb. Now I see ssd's with multiple terabytes selling for the same price as a 4tb hdd back in the day. When I built my computer in the late 10s you didn't buy an ssd for space, it was os and programs only. Tbh I don't need 8tb.
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Different strokes for different folks. Costco recently had a closeout on shuckable 8tb external drives. I bought 4 to double my NAS storage, lol.
 
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I am having trouble with my machine, after leaving it off for a couple hours the first time it attempts to boot it does not post, turns off and on again then works.
The machine turns off when the dram led lights up, so I tried reseating ram and using other ram sticks altogether but it only made it worse, now occasionally it bootloops and I have to reseat ram multiple times to get it to boot.
Once turned on the computer works flawlessly, no bsods or anything.
Memtest86 shows no issues after 4 passes, I updated bios and changed cmos battery too.
So I think mobo is on the death bed, not sure how to confirm this besides wait until it refuses to turn on regardless of what I do.
As for a replacement, is there a difference between b450 and b550 chipsets? I would like to upgrade cpu in the future but I see both of them already support latest gen ryzen.

As an additional note, I lose display altogether if I plug any usb device that has power in it, say if I plug a printer and it is plugged into power, I lose display, but not if it is not plugged in.
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Have you tried unplugging it entirely and letting it sit for a while before plugging power/everything else back in? (don't remove internal components like cards and ram obviously)
 
The Ugly One said:
Had somebody try to sell us Optane at my last job...we weren't sure what the point was, not really. Seemed like a solution looking for an application.
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It's nice if you can cache your entire database in regular memory. If your DB is a few hundred GB and that starts to be a problem, being able to pull the less-accessed parts of it into Optane DIMMs would presumably still offer good advantages over regular SSD storage.

But at that point you probably need per-OS and per-DB optimizations. I'm unaware of those happening for Optane.

Samsung is now offering 512gb DDR5 sticks as large as the biggest 2019 Optane SIMMs. I'm sure the Optane stuff is still much better on price, but if they have a bunch of stuff lying around unsold and they can't justify making larger, better modules, it's a dead end.
 
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Premium Dog Food said:
I am having trouble with my machine, after leaving it off for a couple hours the first time it attempts to boot it does not post, turns off and on again then works.
The machine turns off when the dram led lights up, so I tried reseating ram and using other ram sticks altogether but it only made it worse, now occasionally it bootloops and I have to reseat ram multiple times to get it to boot.
Once turned on the computer works flawlessly, no bsods or anything.
Memtest86 shows no issues after 4 passes, I updated bios and changed cmos battery too.
So I think mobo is on the death bed, not sure how to confirm this besides wait until it refuses to turn on regardless of what I do.
As for a replacement, is there a difference between b450 and b550 chipsets? I would like to upgrade cpu in the future but I see both of them already support latest gen ryzen.

As an additional note, I lose display altogether if I plug any usb device that has power in it, say if I plug a printer and it is plugged into power, I lose display, but not if it is not plugged in.
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You have a Ryzen 3000 series right? Are you using the docp memory overclock feature? First see if the same issue happens when no docp is applied. Then with docp, adjust the vddcr soc voltage to manual and set it to 1.0v.
 
Car Won't Crank said:
You have a Ryzen 3000 series right? Are you using the docp memory overclock feature? First see if the same issue happens when no docp is applied. Then with docp, adjust the vddcr soc voltage to manual and set it to 1.0v.
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If it is a Ryzen 3600/x it might be a defective memory controller. I had one. :/
 
The Ugly One said:
It was a nice few days with the Nuc 11, but I noticed it was running consistently 20 degrees hotter than what other people said theirs was at. Then the PCIe slot cooked off and died. Time to return it.

I'm going to assume for now I got a lemon.
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You got cuc'd by the Nuc
 
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Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
Have you tried unplugging it entirely and letting it sit for a while before plugging power/everything else back in? (don't remove internal components like cards and ram obviously)
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Tried that, issue does not seem to occur, needs more testing though.
I want to exclude there being a ground fault somewhere before spending money.
Car Won't Crank said:
You have a Ryzen 3000 series right? Are you using the docp memory overclock feature? First see if the same issue happens when no docp is applied. Then with docp, adjust the vddcr soc voltage to manual and set it to 1.0v.
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First gen ryzen, no OC at all and slow ass 2133mhz ram (2666 mhz for the other sticks I tried)
 
Premium Dog Food said:
It does not, no. I will try again a couple more times to be extra sure, maybe borrow a multimeter to test ground continuity.
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Yeah, that sounds like static build up. Plugging in the printer probably makes it zap something somewhere and that's why you lose display. Sucks to be you, this shit can be a pain in the ass. If you figure out what causes it please post an update, it could help people in the future.
 
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