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TheRaptorJesus said:
I looked and couldn't find out where the cuts were coming from, i'm curious to see how much-if any of the israel fab is hit; or were they "miraculously" spared.
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Kiryat Gat's currently their most advanced production fab, so it's probably not on the chopping block. I mean, it's currently the place where Mossad agents gather to activate their mind control ray to make you love niggers.
 
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The depressing part is that any effect on Intel sales from the bad Raptor Lake PR isn't even reflected in Q2's earnings.

Their only real win in the pipeline is regaining process parity with TSMC but they need to haul ass because that shit is going to be expensive to run if they're not selling it via IFS.
 
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4090 Chad said:
The company’s first two Intel 18A products, Panther Lake for client — the first microprocessor to use RibbonFet, PowerVia and advanced packaging — and Clearwater Forest for servers, are on track to launch in 2025.
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Lunar Lake paper launched on September 3.
Arrow Lake desktop... Q4?
Arrow Lake mobile... Q1 2025?
Panther Lake 2025. (IIRC this is a Lunar Lake sequel, intended for lowish-power mobile)
Arrow Lake Refresh = ???

Move fast and break things, Intel. I will pick them up for pennies on the dollar.
 
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Intel announces two extra years of warranty amid chip crashing and instability issues — longer warranty applies to 13th- and 14th-Gen Core processors

Intel told us today that it will extend the warranty on its boxed Intel Core 13th- and 14th-Gen processors by two additional years. Intel's warranty extension comes as a result of the crashing and instability issues that have plagued its 13th- and 14th-Gen chips for months. Those issues impact all 65W and higher models, meaning the crashes have a widespread impact ranging from the flagship models down to even the pedestrian mid-range chips. Intel's processors typically come with a three-year warranty period, so the extension will bring the warranty for most boxed processors to five years.
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Intel is committed to making sure all customers who have or are currently experiencing instability symptoms on their 13th and/or 14th Gen desktop processors are supported in the exchange process. We stand behind our products, and in the coming days we will be sharing more details on two-year extended warranty support for our boxed Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen desktop processors.

In the meantime, if you are currently or previously experienced instability symptoms on your Intel Core 13th/14th Gen desktop system:
  • For users who purchased systems from OEM/System Integrators – please reach out to your system manufacturer’s support team for further assistance.
  • For users who purchased a boxed CPU – please reach out to Intel Customer Support for further assistance.
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Whether or not they'll fight you and deny you is another story.

The Ugly One said:
Kiryat Gat's currently their most advanced production fab, so it's probably not on the chopping block. I mean, it's currently the place where Mossad agents gather to activate their mind control ray to make you love niggers.
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How curious the fab in a perpetual unstable warzone is the most advanced. Seems like a smart place to put your best tech. Blah blah weather, and whatever excuse.
 
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For users who purchased systems from OEM/System Integrators – please reach out to your system manufacturer’s support team for further assistance.
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This is just stealthy buttfucking because most OEMs only offer a 1-year warranty, which means if you have an OEM system with an affected Intel CPU and it takes more than a full year to die, then you're just fucked. I don't think Intel is even dominant in the DIY boxed processor space anymore which means that this is just them covering the smallest category of affected users.
 
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Debating on getting this monitor. With the points on my card, its 200 bucks. Its a significant upgrade over my main monitor, a thrift store find 1080p 60hz 23 inch monitor (which is also a dell lol). 165hz, 1440p, curved, 27 inch (which just barely fits my desk), matches my other 2 dells including this old 1024 square DellVGA monitor. I really have no reason not to buy it other than money. Which is the sticking point lol. It's going to hurt but I can do it. I've had my eyes on this for months and I'm really tempted to bite the bullet and just do it. Any thoughts?
 
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Debating on getting this monitor. With the points on my card, its 200 bucks. Its a significant upgrade over my main monitor, a thrift store find 1080p 60hz 23 inch monitor (which is also a dell lol). 165hz, 1440p, curved, 27 inch (which just barely fits my desk), matches my other 2 dells including this old 1024 square DellVGA monitor. I really have no reason not to buy it other than money. Which is the sticking point lol. It's going to hurt but I can do it. I've had my eyes on this for months and I'm really tempted to bite the bullet and just do it. Any thoughts?
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What I can tell you is that a better monitor is the best way to improve your computing situation, way more than getting a new cpu or gpu. But financially only you can decide.
 
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Quiproquo said:
What I can tell you is that a better monitor is the best way to improve your computing situation, way more than getting a new cpu or gpu. But financially only you can decide.
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Thing is my rig is built for 1440p. 4070 super, 12th gen i9k, 64 gigs of ram, it's really limited by my current monitor. I can go 4k if I want, but I'll suffer in framerate from everything ive seen about the 4070 super.

I've placed the order. Because yeah you're right, the bottleneck is the monitor. I've really been enjoying my new PC lately, and I want to have the hardware to make it sing as it were.

Edit on second thought I canceled it. It's just a lot of money rn. But probably in the next few weeks.
 
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TheRaptorJesus said:
Intel announces two extra years of warranty amid chip crashing and instability issues — longer warranty applies to 13th- and 14th-Gen Core processors
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That's nice. But if chips I'm using to run my critical business infrastructure start smoking the cost of replacing the chip is probably not going to be the biggest dint in my profits. It will be compensating my own customers or losing repeat business or new business.

The thing is, I guarantee somewhere at Intel is an engineer who said "this is too risky, our chips can't handle this" and a manager who gets paid more than him who overrode him.
 
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Intel announces two extra years of warranty amid chip crashing and instability issues — longer warranty applies to 13th- and 14th-Gen Core processors
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Wouldn't it be a good idea to intentionally overclock/degrade your chips now so you can claim warranty, because I would not trust any chip that ran without the yet unreleased microcode update.
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
Debating on getting this monitor. With the points on my card, its 200 bucks. Its a significant upgrade over my main monitor, a thrift store find 1080p 60hz 23 inch monitor (which is also a dell lol). 165hz, 1440p, curved, 27 inch (which just barely fits my desk), matches my other 2 dells including this old 1024 square DellVGA monitor. I really have no reason not to buy it other than money. Which is the sticking point lol. It's going to hurt but I can do it. I've had my eyes on this for months and I'm really tempted to bite the bullet and just do it. Any thoughts?
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QHD 165 Hz is usually cheaper, I think. It's also curved. I don't know about you, but I've never used a curved monitor.

Do the points expire?
 
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Fcret said:
The depressing part is that any effect on Intel sales from the bad Raptor Lake PR isn't even reflected in Q2's earnings.
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Yeah, the real fallout will be seen over the coming quarters. In lawsuits, and smaller sales because nobody wants to get fucked again.

It’s one thing with 500-1000$ consumer CPUs but the Xeons go for thousands or tens of thousands of dollars.
 
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Fcret said:
They've already confirmed production of 20A and those products will be launching by the end of the year.
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No I mean it remains to be seen if it’s competitive with TSMCs latest in size, performance and of course yield.

Samsung has a 3nm node just like TSMC, but it’s a goddamn donkey in all aspects.

I’m EXTREMELY sceptical when it comes to their “five nodes in four years” plan.

After being stuck on 14nm for close to a decade? When even TSMC takes two years between meaningful new nodes?

Bullshit.
 
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