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May need a very low power GPU for my work desktop self-build, not for gaming. I would likely get something second hand off ebay but my criteria are reliability and low power. I'm considering getting a new ARC A310. Apparently runs at 50W and it would support latest tech such as AV1 encoding.

Any opinions on Intel's ARC GPUs? I've been out of the GPU market for a while.
 
May need a very low power GPU for my work desktop self-build, not for gaming. I would likely get something second hand off ebay but my criteria are reliability and low power. I'm considering getting a new ARC A310. Apparently runs at 50W and it would support latest tech such as AV1 encoding.

Any opinions on Intel's ARC GPUs? I've been out of the GPU market for a while.
IIRC, ARC GPUs are fine especially for non-gaming. The issue is stock as some have become harder to get.
 
What kind of workloads do you foresee needing the GPU for? Cause if it's just video encoding, you might be better off sticking with integrated graphics or grabbing an Arc card.
Storage, 4k playback. I'm pretty sure I need a card if I want to play 4k disks because intel won't read 4k ultra HD blurays post 11th gen. Really not too much
 
Any opinions on Intel's ARC GPUs? I've been out of the GPU market for a while.
They are priced fairly, and XeSS is almost as good as DLSS2 (no frame gen). The low end ones are REALLY low end, though. Basically, you get what you pay for, and an A770 is a pretty nice card for the price.

A year ago, I would have said choose them over AMD, but while FSR upscaling stinks, the frame gen is quite good, so it's a toss-up.
 
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Reminds me I should plan on an A770 should the need of a server desktop (or maybe get a NAS) arises.
 
Unfortunately PC gamers (or reviewers at least) have convinced themelves that 200fps is a desirable target.
People joke about this, but a higher fps now could mean a cpu lasts longer for someone at a certain fps target, or in certain scenarios desiring higher fps to reduce motion blur.

Or could be down to having better senses to notice the differences better.

There's legit reasons to go after a higher fps target. Otherwise everyone would be fine playing on a 3050 with crappy dlss settings.
 
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People joke about this, but a higher fps now could mean a cpu lasts longer for someone at a certain fps target
The price of gaming hardware falls so quickly that it is virtually never economical to pay a premium to "future-proof" a computer. The additional price you pay will be substantial now, but will be fuck-all by the time the future you're planning for comes about.

I wasted way too much money in my misspent youth before I figured this out.
 
The price of gaming hardware falls so quickly that it is virtually never economical to pay a premium to "future-proof" a computer. The additional price you pay will be substantial now, but will be fuck-all by the time the future you're planning for comes about.

I wasted way too much money in my misspent youth before I figured this out.
Usually you don't plan to future proof. The time just sort of flies by until at some point you notice you skipped 4 or so cpu gens.

The nice thing is nowadays you dont have to buy the most expensive cpu to get the best gaming cpu thanks to the 8 core X3D chips.

*Edit* As far as hardware price decreases go, let's look at the 5800X3D. Launched at $450 over 2 years ago. About $300 now on ebay used. $150 and I could have been enjoying what is still a top notch gaming cpu for 2 years? Chump change.
 
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Reminds me I should plan on an A770 should the need of a server desktop (or maybe get a NAS) arises.
Isn't that way overkill? It appears to have 16GB. I'm looking at an A330 for my server-desktop. But that is all it's going to be, not a gaming platform. Perhaps we have different use cases.

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People joke about this, but a higher fps now could mean a cpu lasts longer for someone at a certain fps target,
Sorry, am I misunderstanding what you mean here? Because if not, I have to press 'F' to doubt.
 
The price of gaming hardware falls so quickly that it is virtually never economical to pay a premium to "future-proof" a computer. The additional price you pay will be substantial now, but will be fuck-all by the time the future you're planning for comes about.

I wasted way too much money in my misspent youth before I figured this out.

It's also because of how far away that future is now. 20 years ago, things moved briskly. I got a Geforce 2 in 2001; it was obsolete in 2004, when Doom 3 came out. Today, a 9-year-old 980 Ti can run Helldivers II at 1080p and 75 fps. If you can afford a 4090, a high-end CPU, and all the other bells and whistles, you're not the sort of person who has to hang onto your computer for ten years because you can't afford to upgrade.

Isn't that way overkill? It appears to have 16GB. I'm looking at an A330 for my server-desktop. But that is all it's going to be, not a gaming platform. Perhaps we have different use cases.

Why bother with a dGPU at all?
 
You just have to trust that the brand won't screw you over.
Minisforum have a pretty solid reputation, and apart from the power usage (which is only really an issue if you put the 7940HX in a laptop), it's a great little chip.
For 99% of PC users out there, that computer is going to be a perfectly adequate desktop, even for gaming (though not at 4k). Especially if graphics multiplier is unlocked, the 610M is very overclockable, it's just you normally have to set it up with a very awkward +30 curve optimiser and a fixed GPU frequency.
 
So I still have this i7 12700k, 32 gigs of ddr4, and a cooler from building my PC. The parts just accumulated. Also got a random case from a thrift store. Thinking of building a server tbh. Just load it with SSD's or hard drives for media storage. Put like a 4060 in it for the graphics. Thoughts?
Storage, 4k playback. I'm pretty sure I need a card if I want to play 4k disks because intel won't read 4k ultra HD blurays post 11th gen. Really not too much
Do you intend to have a home server that does the media playback/storage at minimum with something like Jellyfin but also other things like running a Minecraft server or surveillance camera or just a media player connected directly to your TV that plays discs/rips with VLC?
 
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Do you intend to have a home server that does the media playback/storage at minimum with something like Jellyfin but also other things like running a Minecraft server or surveillance camera or just a media player connected directly to your TV that plays discs/rips with VLC?
It's really just media playback and deep storage. I don't have big expectations for it.
 
It's really just media playback and deep storage. I don't have big expectations for it.
If it’s essentially just a Plex server, the CPU is the main consideration. You shouldn’t even need a GPU, but if you wanted to put one in it, I would just look for something super cheap like a used 1050ti or something.
 
If it’s essentially just a Plex server, the CPU is the main consideration. You shouldn’t even need a GPU, but if you wanted to put one in it, I would just look for something super cheap like a used 1050ti or something.
You don't need a GPU, but having transcoding support for the latest codecs will help a lot. A recent Intel CPU with built in graphics will be ideal, but the jellyfin guys have a ranking with AMD GPUs being at the bottom
 
If it’s essentially just a Plex server, the CPU is the main consideration. You shouldn’t even need a GPU, but if you wanted to put one in it, I would just look for something super cheap like a used 1050ti or something.
You don't need a GPU, but having transcoding support for the latest codecs will help a lot. A recent Intel CPU with built in graphics will be ideal, but the jellyfin guys have a ranking with AMD GPUs being at the bottom
Really it's for transcoding for 4k bluray discs. 12th gen intel doesn't like that. I basically need a card. A basic bitch 4060 should be more than enough to do that.
 
Really it's for transcoding for 4k bluray discs. 12th gen intel doesn't like that. I basically need a card. A basic bitch 4060 should be more than enough to do that.
Keep in mind that hardware encoders don't compress as well as software ones because they're optimized for streaming, but yeah they're a lot faster.
 
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Keep in mind that hardware encoders don't compress as well as software ones because they're optimized for streaming, but yeah they're a lot faster.
Well intel ripped out the abilty to read 4k discs from 12 gen cores and above, so its either the card or nothing lol.
 
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