GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

[LegoTugboat]

Just to check.

Any preferences for storage space or monitor size?

Doing a quick looksee, and there's a fair few around the $1k US range. Thing is, most of them would have Intel Iris Xe, which I think's about the same level, maybe a tad higher than a 1050.

 

[The Ugly One]

Just to check.

Any preferences for storage space or monitor size?

Doing a quick looksee, and there's a fair few around the $1k US range. Thing is, most of them would have Intel Iris Xe, which I think's about the same level, maybe a tad higher than a 1050.

Iris Xe is 2 generations old now. Core Ultra laptops with Arc graphics can run in the $1K range.

https://www.newegg.com/lenovo-83d80000us-14-0-intel-core-ultra-7-155h-16gb-intel-arc-graphics-512-gb-pcie/p/N82E16834840522

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834156669

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

There have been many games where turning down your graphics settings makes things like foliage disappear.

I'm aware of that.

One of the games I played seriously was Rainbow6 which had shitty visibility. Lowering settings in menus did some, but ultimately little to improve it. The big fix was deeper modifications which took out textures. I never did that, though, and that game had deeper problems outside of visibility.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

There's also this one that I saw, $729

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834360379?Item=N82E16834360379

WXGA screen, 120hz, OLED(???), Ryzen 7, Radeon 780m(how that stacks up to other things I have no idea), 16gb RAM, 1TB SSD. It's a 16" laptop though.

 

[The Ugly One]

There's also this one that I saw, $729

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834360379?Item=N82E16834360379

WXGA screen, 120hz, OLED(???), Ryzen 7, Radeon 780m(how that stacks up to other things I have no idea), 16gb RAM, 1TB SSD. It's a 16" laptop though.

My laptop has the CPU one generation behind that, and it idles at such a high clock speed--higher than my i9-12900 desktop--that the power drains in about 2 hours. I don't recommend AMD CPUs for laptops at all.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

My 14 year old motherboard got fried, it's giving me bluescreen errors every boot and I'm worried about it destroying my HDD, also 14 years old. I've declared my pc officially dead and am planning to buy a laptop for the time being. I would like recommendations for one, budget is around 1000 USD. It doesn't have to be a hardcore rig but should at least have gpu power of a 1050 or 1080, should have the cpu power of a i7 6th gen or greater and should have 16 gigs of ram at minimum.

Almost any new iGPU should have the power of a "GTX 1050", so that's a low bar to clear, 1080 being ~3x faster.

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[cybertoaster]

Can't find anything about anyone managing to run LLMs on the 9070, just SD.

Any preferences for storage space or monitor size?

SSD for PC, HDD for NAS, simple as.

As for monitors I like curved ultrawide.

Doing a quick looksee, and there's a fair few around the $1k US range. Thing is, most of them would have Intel Iris Xe, which I think's about the same level, maybe a tad higher than a 1050.

Why? you can get gaming laptops with a 4xxx for $600. If you want thin&light and have $1k just get a macbook, you can't beat that battery life, and I don't like apple shit. If you need it for heavy shit then get the gaming one, that Xe is gonna shit the bed at anything above casual use.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

My laptop has the CPU one generation behind that, and it idles at such a high clock speed--higher than my i9-12900 desktop--that the power drains in about 2 hours. I don't recommend AMD CPUs for laptops at all.

I know, but he's replacing a stationary with a laptop so I assumed the use case would be fairly stationary and might be hooked up to external devices(screen, keyboard etc.).

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Yeah really need to know how portable you want the thing because that's going to be a major factor.

Personally....will never go back below 18". Just too nice.

 

[Susanna]

Hello I don't know if this is an appropriate question for this thread but I'm going to shoot anyways

My 14 year old motherboard got fried, it's giving me bluescreen errors every boot and I'm worried about it destroying my HDD, also 14 years old. I've declared my pc officially dead and am planning to buy a laptop for the time being. I would like recommendations for one, budget is around 1000 USD. It doesn't have to be a hardcore rig but should at least have gpu power of a 1050 or 1080, should have the cpu power of a i7 6th gen or greater and should have 16 gigs of ram at minimum.

No apple products, goes without saying.

Thanks in advance

Buying a Windows laptop in this decade would be very foolish. Apple just make far superior laptops.

 

[Bruce LaLiLuLeLo]

Why? you can get gaming laptops with a 4xxx for $600. If you want thin&light and have $1k just get a macbook, you can't beat that battery life, and I don't like apple shit. If you need it for heavy shit then get the gaming one, that Xe is gonna shit the bed at anything above casual use.

It's semi casual use. I had a 1050 and Im not a hardcore gamer who's obsessed with specs and stuff, I just need a 2016 AAA game, say dark souls iii, to function at 60 at 1080p (monitor obviously) or at least 720p. Id probably try to play more modern stuff but I'd bring the res down to 720, I don't really mind. Running ryujinx mario odyssey at 720p 45fps would be the toughest usecase gaming side. That's 50%, the other 50% is to do computer stuff, VScode Oracle vms docker excel browse the internet etc. Id also be monitoring the use on afterburner so I don't want something which spikes upto 75-80C GPU or 99% cpu usage at random. I've experienced that playing things like sekiro and mhw.

I know, but he's replacing a stationary with a laptop so I assumed the use case would be fairly stationary and might be hooked up to external devices(screen, keyboard etc.).

I have a lot of spare peripherals which I'm going to be keeping after I throw the cpu away. So I'm pretty covered there, this is just a fairly temporary thing which I need for portability and my desktop dying has forced my hand to get a laptop. That's why I keep it down to barely a thousand bucks, I don't want to invest too much cause this should last me around 6 years. I'm personally not a fan of laptops but portability apparently trumps everything a desktop could offer and going forward I probably need that advantage.

Thanks to the others, I will check the stuff out.

Edit:

Buying a Windows laptop in this decade would be very foolish. Apple just make far superior laptops.

I unfortunately don't like apple or the apple ecosystem. And I think of this as a temporary solution so I don't really care that autistically qualitatively about what I'm buying. As long as it gets the job done id be okay. Id just be a bit disappointed I won't be able to fix a laptop as well as I can a desktop cause I'm a bit used to the car mechanic lifestyle dealing with my now dead desktop, the one which constantly sputtered and crashed in my face at random for the past 3 or so years. That's also something apple probably doesn't encourage, fixing your own stuff.

 

[Raging Capybara]

I don't do vinyls cause I'm a pirate and could careless where the rips came from, but the defense of vinyls nowadays is that the tracks are allegedly mastered differently.

I seriously doubt that's the case anymore. Streaming services equalize the loudness of every music on their platform, you can't get super loud on these services anymore because they will turn down the volume until it matches the threshold they established.

But it's just moving the goalposts, they insisted for decades vinyl had magic capabilities, and when it became so undeniably obvious it was a shitty lie, they started with this cope the mastering is less compressed in vinyl, ignoring that the loudness war is dead because of streaming services.

Besides, even if it were still true, every playback would sound different. Just watch this, even the type of needle completely changes the character of the sound. And I always laugh that even in these few seconds you can already hear all the noise, crackling, and terrible popping, who the fuck thinks it's superior?

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

ignoring that the loudness war is dead

Loudness war never die!

 

[The Ugly One]

I know, but he's replacing a stationary with a laptop so I assumed the use case would be fairly stationary and might be hooked up to external devices(screen, keyboard etc.).

Think about it like buying a pickup for typical home use. Sure, you only use the bed 3 or 4 times a year. But, if those 3 or 4 times, the bed is too small to carry what you wanted, you'll kick yourself for having bought it at all. Similar with a laptop...make sure it's portable, even if the sum total of times you need the battery is twice a year when you visit family for the holidays.

That's why I keep it down to barely a thousand bucks, I don't want to invest too much cause this should last me around 6 years.

Make sure you get something with an aluminum case and read a review or two. Laptops die because mechanical parts break due to wear and tear, not so much because chips burn up. After hauling my supposedly "worksite grade" ASUS to an office building and back twice a week over the summer, two of the bottom screws have fallen out and the internal hinge brackets have snapped off. That's on top of the battery life being abysmal. IME the #1 mistake first-time laptop buyers make is they think compute power per dollar is the most important thing like it is in desktops. Nope. A blazing fast laptop just might be a shattered hulk of crap in 18 months if the build quality sucks.

I know a Mac isn't an option, but just using it as an example for what build quality means. I got a MB Pro in 2012, same year my brother-in-law got a very nice HPE book. 18 months later, the HPE machine was held together with duct tape. I continued to use my MB Pro for 7 years. Today, it's 13 years old, and still just fine (battery's a doorstop, of course, and it is no longer supported by new versions of OSX). My ASUS Tuf, which I thought was supposed to have good build quality, has had light portable use over I think three years and is falling apart. I doubt it can survive another year.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

After hauling my supposedly "worksite grade" ASUS to an office building and back twice a week over the summer, two of the bottom screws have fallen out and the internal hinge brackets have snapped off.

Jesus, wtf are they making that thing out of? The Acer Helios has been to work 4 days a week and around the house with toddlers doing their best to abuse it for the past 2-ish years and is still practically brand new....except for the dumb stickers coming off.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

https://preservetube.com/watch?v=r-MYIjtSm_8

 

[Bruce LaLiLuLeLo]

Laptops die because mechanical parts break due to wear and tear, not so much because chips burn up.

This is genuinely surprising. I've always thought laptops are like smartphones in that all the parts are meshed together and cannot be fixed/separated, so one failure could fuck the entire thing. That's another reason why I prefer desktops, modularity. Are part replacements possible at home? Like pick it apart and put it back with stuff from the electronics store.

 

[Betonhaus]

This is genuinely surprising. I've always thought laptops are like smartphones in that all the parts are meshed together and cannot be fixed/separated, so one failure could fuck the entire thing. That's another reason why I prefer desktops, modularity. Are part replacements possible at home? Like pick it apart and put it back with stuff from the electronics store.

It depends on the model, but usually the storage, memory, and heatsinks can be easily removed. Everything else may be on a secondary circuit board or soldiered on

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

Make sure you get something with an aluminum case

If you need a laptop that survives a lot of mobility then sturdy plastic is better. Aluminum will dent and warp when tossed in a bag 5-6 times per day for a year, this means it will start to come apart at "the seams" so to say. Plastic might crack but it will keep the shape. Lenovo has the right idea with having a sturdier metal lid to protect the display while the rest of the laptop being plastic. Fujitsu also had a similar thing going but I haven't dealt with them in years.

Jesus, wtf are they making that thing out of? The Acer Helios has been to work 4 days a week and around the house with toddlers doing their best to abuse it for the past 2-ish years and is still practically brand new....except for the dumb stickers coming off.

Jeezy creezy the stickers should be removed on day one! People think Apple computers look more slick because they don't have the tacky stickers on them.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

AMD adeon RX 9600 XT confirmed with 16GB and 8GB GDDR6 memory, sticking to 128-bit memory bus

AMD may piss off the 'tubers by offering the same card with the same name but different VRAM: a 9060 XT 16 GB and 9060 XT 8 GB. On the plus side for the 8 GB card, they'd probably have the same 32 CUs enabled.

Furthermore, there may be an RTX 5050 with 8 GB GDDR6 instead of GDDR7 and TDP above 75W (135W?), and an RX 9050. There are no real details about the RX 9050/9040 other than continued hints that they will exist.

Edit: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti spec leak: 4608 CUDA and 16/8GB GDDR7, RTX 5050 with 2560 CUDA and 8GB GDDR6