GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

[DavidS877]

I have a few year old ASUS gaming laptop(ROG Zephyrus G15). Gotten specifically since it didn't look like a gaming laptop. Dual M.2, 40GB RAM, 3070 Mobile. Sure, battery life isn't great but for a work laptop it doesn't much matter. If I'm on-site at a customer it just needs enough to go to a 1 hour meeting. If I'm at airports then they often have power or I can use my iPad. If I'm on the plane there's no space for a laptop unless I'm in first class, and then they'd have power.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

ignoring that the loudness war is dead because of streaming services.

Nearly every professional track in every genre is completely brickwalled. Every other sample hits 0db. The war is over because everyone died.

 

[The Ugly One]

This is genuinely surprising. I've always thought laptops are like smartphones in that all the parts are meshed together and cannot be fixed/separated, so one failure could fuck the entire thing. That's another reason why I prefer desktops, modularity. Are part replacements possible at home? Like pick it apart and put it back with stuff from the electronics store.

A laptop far more moving parts than a smartphone, like the screen hinge, the keyboard, and the trackpad buttons. On my BIL's laptop, various internal plastic tabs have broken off, so the seams around the screen don't seal shut, same with the bottom half. Everything is kind of flapping open and half-connected, hence the duct tape.

If you need a laptop that survives a lot of mobility then sturdy plastic is better. Aluminum will dent and warp when tossed in a bag 5-6 times per day for a year, this means it will start to come apart at "the seams" so to say. Plastic might crack but it will keep the shape.

I've had the exact opposite experience. The aluminum Macbook survived all of graduate school, while my plastic ASUS barely survived a few dozen trips to the office and a couple flights.

 

[George Lucas]

Nearly every professional track in every genre is completely brickwalled. Every other sample hits 0db. The war is over because everyone died.

This hasn’t been true since like 2015, and Jazz and Classical never had this problem.

 

[Susanna]

How well plastic stores is directly proportional to how much sunlight exposure it has over the years.

Anyway, my experience is that MacBooks are very durable. My old Air survived a decade of being thrown into a bags. It survived a 1.5 meter drop with just a dent. It never lost any feet. My HP work laptop lost three feet in less than a year of light usage (I avoided it as much as possible because I couldn’t stand using Windows), two keys stopped registering, and one corner of the screen started coming loose. Apple laptops are just better.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

AMD adeon RX 9600 XT confirmed with 16GB and 8GB GDDR6 memory, sticking to 128-bit memory bus

AMD may piss off the 'tubers by offering the same card with the same name but different VRAM: a 9060 XT 16 GB and 9060 XT 8 GB. On the plus side for the 8 GB card, they'd probably have the same 32 CUs enabled.

Furthermore, there may be an RTX 5050 with 8 GB GDDR6 instead of GDDR7 and TDP above 75W (135W?), and an RX 9050. There are no real details about the RX 9050/9040 other than continued hints that they will exist.

Edit: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti spec leak: 4608 CUDA and 16/8GB GDDR7, RTX 5050 with 2560 CUDA and 8GB GDDR

I can't wait to not be able to buy one.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

I can't wait to not be able to buy one.

Navi 44 should be a small die, hopefully they can crap out a ton of 7700 XT sidegrades (and worse).

We'll see if the 5050 appears outside of the trashiest gaming laptops. And the 5060 Ti 8GB may not be a hot seller.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 to feature 3840 CUDA cores, 150W TGP and 8GB GDDR7 memory

4060 = 3072 cores, 115W TDP, 272 GB/s memory bandwidth
4060 Ti = 4352 cores, 160/165W TDP (8/16 GB), 288 GB/s
4070 = 5888 cores, 200W TDP, 504 GB/s

5060 may be 448 GB/s. It could be substantially better than the 4060 (25% moar coars) but people will want to see the inevitable 12 GB SUPER model.

It would be interesting if 5060 and 5060 Ti 8 GB both get retired for a 12 GB model.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

I've had the exact opposite experience. The aluminum Macbook survived all of graduate school, while my plastic ASUS barely survived a few dozen trips to the office and a couple flights.

Using a Macbook as an example is cheating, if they dented like a beer can at that price then... But there are a lot of laptops with aluminium bodies that seems to be made from old beer cans.

Lenovo and Fujitsu have been solid in my experience - depending on the line/model of course. The thing with the Thinkpad is that it will probably get the standard beauty crack even on modern models. But that is a cosmetic blemish.

I have a Thinkpad from 2000 with the exact same crack and I still see it on modern Thinkpads that are 3-4 years old. It comes from lifting it by the left corner a lot.

 

[You're MDNWU]

Using a Macbook as an example is cheating, if they dented like a beer can at that price then... But there are a lot of laptops with aluminium bodies that seems to be made from old beer cans.

Lenovo and Fujitsu have been solid in my experience - depending on the line/model of course. The thing with the Thinkpad is that it will probably get the standard beauty crack even on modern models. But that is a cosmetic blemish.
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I have a Thinkpad from 2000 with the exact same crack and I still see it on modern Thinkpads that are 3-4 years old. It comes from lifting it by the left corner a lot.

Currently have a newer Thinkpad for work. Funny enough, grabbing it from the left corner feels natural and now I'm just waiting for a crack to appear.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

Currently have a newer Thinkpad for work. Funny enough, grabbing it from the left corner feels natural and now I'm just waiting for a crack to appear.

That's how you move it! Cup in the right hand, laptop in the left.
It's comes naturally for some reason. You can't really grab in the safe zone(the middle) because then you would thumb all over the touch pad and buttons.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Spoiler: Gamers Nexus analyzing/complaining about AMD MSRPs

9070 non-XT overclocks well too, so it's being called a "hidden gem".

Acer accidentally confirms 5060 8GB, it's ogre

AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D and Ryzen 9 9900X3D Review Roundup - Boring, you already know what it is, but Gamers Nexus thinks that AMD has improved its drivers/handling.

MLID says LPDDR6 for 256/384-bit Medusa Halo. LPDDR6 should start around 10.667 GT/s before climbing to 14.4 GT/s later in the generation, compared to 8 GT/s LPDDR5X for Strix Halo. So with around a minimum 33% faster memory that's bandwidth doubled (about 512 GB/s) with the alleged 384-bit bus width.

 

[The Ugly One]

Using a Macbook as an example is cheating, if they dented like a beer can at that price then... But there are a lot of laptops with aluminium bodies that seems to be made from old beer cans.

Wait, so PC makers copied what Apple did in a cheap, shitty way that actually made things worse? Man, that's gotta be a first.

 

[Betonhaus]

I'm annoyed that none of the handheld PCs have a proper docking station with video and Ethernet ports. Thunderbolt has a bandwidth limit that actually kinda sucks when you have two displays ethernet and a bunch of usb devices plugged into it.

Are there any laptops these days that don't use Type-C for their docking stations?

 

[Chapalapachapa]

can someone recommend a card that does the work without any software bullshit? im targeting 1080 60 hrz

 

[Susanna]

Using a Macbook as an example is cheating, if they dented like a beer can at that price then... But there are a lot of laptops with aluminium bodies that seems to be made from old beer cans.

It's funny you should use that particular example, because Apple actually does use recycled aluminium for their cases since like 2022. The real issue is simply that Windows laptop manufacturers compete entirely on price, which means they cut down their product quality to the absolute bare minimum they can legally get away with.

 

[Betonhaus]

can someone recommend a card that does the work without any software bullshit? im targeting 1080 60 hrz

Intel Arc A770?

 

[Brain Problems]

Speaking of CRAPbooks, I've been wanting to upgrade my ancient macbook air with a newer one and am starting to see deals appearing on M3s. Is it worth grabbing an M4 or does it really not make that big a difference in then grand scheme of things? Also I am aware that I am risking severe bullying from this thread by even asking semi-forbidden questions related to "should I buy X technology now or wait for Y instead".

 

[The Ugly One]

can someone recommend a card that does the work without any software bullshit? im targeting 1080 60 hrz

sorry, all these cards come with software now

Speaking of CRAPbooks, I've been wanting to upgrade my ancient macbook air with a newer one and am starting to see deals appearing on M3s. Is it worth grabbing an M4 or does it really not make that big a difference in then grand scheme of things? Also I am aware that I am risking severe bullying from this thread by even asking semi-forbidden questions related to "should I buy X technology now or wait for Y instead".

Okay so in real life, think about it. Let's say you use a Macbook for 7 years. After 2 years, is your experience all that different if it's 3 years old as opposed to 2 years old?

also: lolgay

 

[Fcret]

Speaking of CRAPbooks, I've been wanting to upgrade my ancient macbook air with a newer one and am starting to see deals appearing on M3s. Is it worth grabbing an M4 or does it really not make that big a difference in then grand scheme of things? Also I am aware that I am risking severe bullying from this thread by even asking semi-forbidden questions related to "should I buy X technology now or wait for Y instead".

Will an M4 meaningfully boost what you're doing with your computer? The perf is better but it's not like a paradigm shift - base M3 has nearly the same single-core perf as M4, M4 just gets more perf cores in the distribution. If the deal is good, M3 doesn't seem like it's going to be that much of a downgrade.

I have an M2 Max and it's fast enough that it's going to be a 5-10 year machine easily.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

It's funny you should use that particular example, because Apple actually does use recycled aluminium for their cases since like 2022. The real issue is simply that Windows laptop manufacturers compete entirely on price, which means they cut down their product quality to the absolute bare minimum they can legally get away with.

That's not entirely uncommon. I know HP does goes pretty hard on it, at least when they're pitching their product to companies. "You see this plastic bezel around the screen? We catch sea turtles and make them puke, then we fish out whatever plastic flotsam we can find in their vomit, clean it up and reuse it for our laptops. Oops, the bezel cracked because the room temperature changed, the plastic is really shit and the flimsy replacement costs $60 because catching all these fucking turtles is expensive!"

The combination of HP being bastards, computers, recycling and animals made me google something and as usual it went wrong somehow...

Spoiler

I kind of want one.