GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

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As long as the silicon lives, the GPU lives. My 1060 is still alive and well, albeit in the leftover build that right now has Windows 7 installed on it so it has an even older driver running it. Served me well despite all the abuse I've put it through, so it's about time it gets a well deserved break.

my concern is how long the linux drivers will still work. I don't really have any money to upgrade away from my 1060. I know the driver will eventually end up in the AUR as the legacy branch but I don't see it working forever.
 
my concern is how long the linux drivers will still work. I don't really have any money to upgrade away from my 1060. I know the driver will eventually end up in the AUR as the legacy branch but I don't see it working forever.
At least on Linux you have the Nvidia open source drivers, so I guess as long as someone is willing to maintain them. Then again, newer Nvidia drivers usually mean support for newer games, so if you don't go out of your way to play the newest slop you should be fine coasting on the old ones. Assuming that they don't go stale on Arch at some point in the way they went stale on Windows 7.
 
At least on Linux you have the Nvidia open source drivers, so I guess as long as someone is willing to maintain them. Then again, newer Nvidia drivers usually mean support for newer games, so if you don't go out of your way to play the newest slop you should be fine coasting on the old ones. Assuming that they don't go stale on Arch at some point in the way they went stale on Windows 7.

the open source drivers only work for Turing (16xx/20xx) and newer. Pascal (10xx) isn't supported.
 
the open source drivers only work for Turing (16xx/20xx) and newer. Pascal (10xx) isn't supported.
No fucking wonder AMD still has a foot on the race. AMD works flawlessly on Linux while there is just too much tinkering for Nvidia (and even then its a tossup if it even works).
 
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No fucking wonder AMD still has a foot on the race. AMD works flawlessly on Linux while there is just too much tinkering for Nvidia (and even then its a tossup if it even works).
Yeah, for the older cards AMD is way better than NVIDIA. But the newer ones, I’d say the drivers are about on par with each other. They both just work (you still need to manually install NVIDIA’s, but that’s not actually difficult). My 4090 has been remarkably plug and play in both Gentoo and NixOS.
 
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Yeah, for the older cards AMD is way better than NVIDIA. But the newer ones, I’d say the drivers are about on par with each other. They both just work (you still need to manually install NVIDIA’s, but that’s not actually difficult). My 4090 has been remarkably plug and play in both Gentoo and NixOS.
My biggest issue with Nvidia on Linux is that while there is an open-source driver, a lot of the graphics stack is still closed-source. There's no equivalent to something like radv for open-source vulkan support. This makes a lot of the nvidia stuff much more fiddly than it really should be.
 
There's discussion about this enabling even bulkier CPU coolers.
I actually saw a comment the other day a guy was asking about heatsinks on these modules. like fuck off nigger. It's utterly amazing how something so useless distorted CPU cooler design.

With that said, bring on the low profile coolers. Also does this form factor have speed advantage?
 
Also does this form factor have speed advantage?
Maybe? I think it has shorter trace lengths and should be better than DIMMs in the long run. But CUDIMMs are also pushing speeds up.

There will be no DDR6 SO-DIMMs, so LPCAMM wins by default in future laptops that aren't soldered-only. I don't know if it's going to displace DIMMs in desktops or even mini PCs. It remains to be seen.
 
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I actually saw a comment the other day a guy was asking about heatsinks on these modules. like fuck off nigger. It's utterly amazing how something so useless distorted CPU cooler design.
Just watch as chinks will start making LP downdraft coolers in CAMM sizes/screw patterns the moment they hit the market.
 

Zen 3/4/5 have 32 MiB L3 per CCD, and 64 MiB in a cache chiplet, for a total of 96 MiB on X3D CCDs.

Zen 6 is increasing the CCD's L3 cache to 48 MiB to match the +50% core count, and cache chiplets will go to 96 MiB, for a total of 144 MiB. AMD could use a 2-layer cache chiplet to add another 96 MiB for 240 MiB total, but I doubt they will do it for consumer CPUs.

Finally, cores will be able to access more L3 cache than the legendary Broadwell 128 MiB eDRAM L4 cache.
 
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I guess this is related. My laptop, a 2021 gaming system is playing up. Finally got it to admit a memory problem. Now need to see if it's the CPU or the 8GB soldered module or the 32GB SODIMM. If it's the CPU or 8GB then it seems like maybe time to replace. Of course 80% of the 'gaming' laptops I look at that can take/have 64GB are 'coming soon'. Hopefully it's the 32 and I can just swap that and continue for a while.
 
I actually saw a comment the other day a guy was asking about heatsinks on these modules. like fuck off nigger. It's utterly amazing how something so useless distorted CPU cooler design.

With that said, bring on the low profile coolers. Also does this form factor have speed advantage?
You can absolutely put decent heatsinks on these CAMM modules and have the total height of them being less than that of DIMM slots and modules. If anything, they'll be way better at cooling as you'll be able to pass cool air through the fins horizontally, in line with the CPU cooler, so you won't have to make them as thick.

Besides, VRM's and I/O shrouds will still dictate the way CPU coolers are designed.
 
My biggest issue with Nvidia on Linux is that while there is an open-source driver, a lot of the graphics stack is still closed-source. There's no equivalent to something like radv for open-source vulkan support. This makes a lot of the nvidia stuff much more fiddly than it really should be.
There's NVK which still has a long way to go with performance optimizations and modern features like ray-tracing and DLSS but it works for Maxwell cards and newer, even if later 900 series Maxwell and Pascal are stuck with horrible performance since they can't be reclocked.
 
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Of course 80% of the 'gaming' laptops I look at that can take/have 64GB are 'coming soon'.
You can slap in 64GB of RAM into most laptops, don't believe what OEMs are saying, "max supported capacity" is bullshit. Always check in Intel ARC, or equivalent AMD CPU tech spec site for real supported capacity, memory controller lives in CPU.
 
You can slap in 64GB of RAM into most laptops, don't believe what OEMs are saying, "max supported capacity" is bullshit. Always check in Intel ARC, or equivalent AMD CPU tech spec site for real supported capacity, memory controller lives in CPU.
Not when it's soldered.
 
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RIP my GTX 1060, and RIP my old GTX 960 I still keep incase I would need a backup GPU.
I still have my old 780 and 970. I was having issues with the 780 after 2 years of use, so I got a 970. 780 probably just needed repasted, but I had no idea you could do that with GPUs at the time. Hate throwing tech out, so I just kept it in case a younger relative needed me to build them a PC.

Have parts from my old builds for the same reason. Never know when you could help someone with your hoard of old computer stuff.
 
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You can slap in 64GB of RAM into most laptops, don't believe what OEMs are saying, "max supported capacity" is bullshit. Always check in Intel ARC, or equivalent AMD CPU tech spec site for real supported capacity, memory controller lives in CPU.
Intel ARK sometimes undersells what can be used. They claim 16 GB for N100 when it was given 32 GB by device makers at the start, later 48 GB, and recently 64 GB (DDR5 single-channel SODIMM). There may or may not be issues with using that much.

Some chips are listed as supporting 192 GB when 256 GB is now possible with the new 64 GB modules. (This post is pedantic and you should rate it autistic.)
 
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