GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

[Car Won't Crank]

Not sure where to put this, but the good people at Gamers Nexus had a recent string of bad experiences with Newegg so they made a video about flying out to the Newegg HQ and interviewing the noticeably passionless and dead manager people regarding their egregious errors. It's sorta drama in that it's interesting to see how badly Newegg has fallen since its heyday in the early 2010s.

 

[Fuck Y'all]

A bunch of tech YouTubers that YouTube recommends to me have been saying that as well.

Hardware Unboxed does a monthly GPU prices video, and talked about how prices are lowest they've been for a year due to crypto mining "doing something" as you said (I don't follow crypto). Though there's still huge price inflation.

Like you, I'm tempted to spec out my next PC now in the hopes prices are back to normal by the time summer rolls around, but realistically, I don't think prices will drop to pre-pandemic levels any time soon unless something big happens like crypto mining becomes unprofitable.

>Ethereum is going Proof of Stake

source of this?

 

[Judge Dredd]

I don't know. I don't follow crypto, but it's been something that keeps getting mentioned in various GPU videos for a while. It seems to one of things that is always happening "soon" but never happens.

If you google Ethereum proof of stake, you'll find lots of results.

 

[Keavy Rain]

PC newbie question: I have an i7 7700K and a GTX 1070, which I know at some point was a pretty decent Gaming PC but I’ve been watching a lot of PC building stuff on YouTube and with all this talk of 12900K’s and 3090’s I’m just curious as to when I should start considering upgrades.

Like, I haven’t noticed any huge performance issues with games like Borderlands 3 or Cyberpunk 2077 but I know there’s gonna come a point when I have to replace it.

Also, I’m not an Intel/Nvidia fanboy, I just used PCPartPicker and this was a recommended build in my price range at the time.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

PC newbie question: I have an i7 7700K and a GTX 1070, which I know at some point was a pretty decent Gaming PC but I’ve been watching a lot of PC building stuff on YouTube and with all this talk of 12900K’s and 3090’s I’m just curious as to when I should start considering upgrades.

Like, I haven’t noticed any huge performance issues with games like Borderlands 3 or Cyberpunk 2077 but I know there’s gonna come a point when I have to replace it.

Also, I’m not an Intel/Nvidia fanboy, I just used PCPartPicker and this was a recommended build in my price range at the time.

your pc still seems pretty decent and should handle most games for a long while. at least until ray tracing becomes a requirement in games and forces an upgrade because even though the 1070 can do it, doesnt mean that it should.

 

[Keavy Rain]

your pc still seems pretty decent and should handle most games for a long while. at least until ray tracing becomes a requirement in games and forces an upgrade because even though the 1070 can do it, doesnt mean that it should.

Thanks for the assurance. I was lucky enough to snag a Series X and was hoping that would calm my FOMO on Ray Tracing but it only made it worse.

 

[Judge Dredd]

PC newbie question: I have an i7 7700K and a GTX 1070, which I know at some point was a pretty decent Gaming PC but I’ve been watching a lot of PC building stuff on YouTube and with all this talk of 12900K’s and 3090’s I’m just curious as to when I should start considering upgrades.

Like, I haven’t noticed any huge performance issues with games like Borderlands 3 or Cyberpunk 2077 but I know there’s gonna come a point when I have to replace it.

Also, I’m not an Intel/Nvidia fanboy, I just used PCPartPicker and this was a recommended build in my price range at the time.

I want to expand on Deadwaste's answer.

I think your computer might be better than mine, and my computer is fine for most games. Because of the chip shortages, there's been few AAA games pushing high end tech. Also, most games target consoles. If you're fine with 60 fps at 1080p, you're more than fine for the foreseeable future. The big technical showcases right now are Cyberpunk, Halo Infinite, and Borderlands 3. If you're playing those just fine, you're good.


Most YouTubers use high end builds that play games on ultra at 8k with raytracing to show off, and for clicks. Most people are fine with a mid range card on mid-high settings. The only reasons to go for a high end PC is if you have a specific reason. For example, I want a 3080 or a 3070 tier card because I want to play VR games. With modern headsets having 2k per eye and high frame rates being needed to not be sick, I want a card that plays well at 4k.


Lastly, as a general rule, ultra settings get a huge drop in frame rate for next to no visual improvement. To put it simply. "Ultra setting is meant for screenshots". YouTubers will run games at ultra settings which is why they need a 3090, but you likely shouldn't. There's a great video about it by 2kliksphilip, but it's years old. Hardware Unboxed did a similar video not too long ago if you want more modern examples, but 2kliksphilip said it best imo.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

PC newbie question: I have an i7 7700K and a GTX 1070, which I know at some point was a pretty decent Gaming PC but I’ve been watching a lot of PC building stuff on YouTube and with all this talk of 12900K’s and 3090’s I’m just curious as to when I should start considering upgrades.

Like, I haven’t noticed any huge performance issues with games like Borderlands 3 or Cyberpunk 2077 but I know there’s gonna come a point when I have to replace it.

Also, I’m not an Intel/Nvidia fanboy, I just used PCPartPicker and this was a recommended build in my price range at the time.

Adding to previous posts because things are absurd: that 2016 GPU of yours is just fine, you can play all the new games or sell it for a high price. Your high-end CPU from 2017, the i7, is now an entry level i3 or a $120 Ryzen 3.

If you are itching for an upgrade then do the CPU and motherboard.

 

[XMassAllYearRound]

I don't see any posts related to the issue but rate me late if it has been posted already.

Nvidia has been hacked.
archive

According to the hackers all they took was the "Important" stuff; schematics, internal documents, experimental firmware and general trade secrets. But I'm gonna be honest here, I don't thrust these guys even though they are trying really hard to win my heart by threatening Nvidia with releasing everything if they don't meet their demands, with their demands being for Nvidia to release all their firmware as open source.

The deadline for these demands is on Friday and so far Nvidia has done jack fucking shit.

Change your passwords related to GeForce and other Nvidia products ASAP, probably lock your credit cards for a couple of days if you have GeForceNow and cross your fingers Nvidia gets a real big hit from this, it was a long time coming imo.

 

[King Daddy Telomerase]

PC newbie question: I have an i7 7700K and a GTX 1070, which I know at some point was a pretty decent Gaming PC but I’ve been watching a lot of PC building stuff on YouTube and with all this talk of 12900K’s and 3090’s I’m just curious as to when I should start considering upgrades.

Like, I haven’t noticed any huge performance issues with games like Borderlands 3 or Cyberpunk 2077 but I know there’s gonna come a point when I have to replace it.

Also, I’m not an Intel/Nvidia fanboy, I just used PCPartPicker and this was a recommended build in my price range at the time.

My build is a similar level (2700X + 1660 Super), and I plan on upgrading once GPU prices return to decent levels. But, even then, I don't think an upgrade is really needed for at least a couple years. Game graphical quality isn't going way up any time soon, and like you say, I can play 99% of games at high framerates on 1080p, and 1440p well enough.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

I don't see any posts related to the issue but rate me late if it has been posted already.

Nvidia has been hacked.
archive

According to the hackers all they took was the "Important" stuff; schematics, internal documents, experimental firmware and general trade secrets. But I'm gonna be honest here, I don't thrust these guys even though they are trying really hard to win my heart by threatening Nvidia with releasing everything if they don't meet their demands, with their demands being for Nvidia to release all their firmware as open source.

The deadline for these demands is on Friday and so far Nvidia has done jack fucking shit.

Change your passwords related to GeForce and other Nvidia products ASAP, probably lock your credit cards for a couple of days if you have GeForceNow and cross your fingers Nvidia gets a real big hit from this, it was a long time coming imo.

There's also this follow up that is really funny.

Nvidia allegedly hacked its hackers, stole its data back​

Nvidia allegedly hacked its hackers, stole its data back

www.techspot.com

Another site reports that they leaked several upcoming GeForce names. Can't possibly be 40X0 something, right?

What I don't understand is why Nvidia didn't ruthlessly enforce an air gapped environment for all computers/people that sat on their secrets, like Intel and other people. Stealing 1TB of data can't be done by an idiot engineer accidentally leaving their phone as a hotspot while charging it at their computer.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

Nvidia allegedly hacked its hackers, stole its data back

this is actually pretty based

 

[Frail Snail]

Veritasium released a video on a potential offshoot of modern traditional digital computing - mixing analog and digital again like it's the old days.

Applications, like before, seem very specialized and limited. However, the startup mentioned in the video caught my attention. If their claims are true, a chip sized for IoT devices, that draws 3W of power, can track positions of people on camera comparable to an AI model attached to a regular, power hungry GPU. That could probably be extended to facial recognition. The future's glowing brighter every day.

 

[Stasi]

Pandemic was ending and I was hoping for a reasonably priced GPU...and then WW3 breaks out. fml

And that asshole I bought the gaming laptop off did turn out to be a scammer and I'm waiting for eBay to give me my money back. I'm never going to be able to upgrade

Is there any news on Intel? I thought they were going to flood the market with millions of cards but the release date seems to be slipping further and further into 2022 from the few articles I've seen.

 

[Elysian]

Pandemic was ending and I was hoping for a reasonably priced GPU...and then WW3 breaks out. fml

And that asshole I bought the gaming laptop off did turn out to be a scammer and I'm waiting for eBay to give me my money back. I'm never going to be able to upgrade

Is there any news on Intel? I thought they were going to flood the market with millions of cards but the release date seems to be slipping further and further into 2022 from the few articles I've seen.

What's your budget - and does it have to be a laptop?

You could try going for an AMD card since most people want Nvidia cards for muh raytracing even though it's an optional minor graphical enhancement in most titles right now. I bought an RX 6600 for my gaming PC for £429 and I'm pretty happy with it. It still should've probably been like £100 cheaper but it was the least overpriced non-shit GPU I could get my hands on circa December 2021, and if you don't give that much of a shit about raytracing I highly recommend you get one. The 6500XT just came out and is going for about £200 so if you want something entry level it seems like a good shout. Although these are Bongland prices and for all I know you could live in some shithole country where it costs your firstborn child to buy basically anything tech related whatsoever so apologies in advance if that's the case.

I hope you get your money back from that scammer

 

[Stasi]

Although these are Bongland prices and for all I know you could live in some shithole country

Yeh I do live in a shithole country...called England.

I am only after 1080p/60 so I was eyeing up the RTX 3050 as it seems to be in stock in a few places but at around £350 it's still well over RRP. Guess I'm a stingy shit and it hurts my soul getting gouged, even if for only £100.

Also got an old desktop tower with an i7 4790 so getting a more powerful GPU would just bottleneck I guess and I don't want to build a completely new machine.

 

[CreamyHerman’s]

this is actually pretty based

Yeah I hate Novidya but that's kino as fuck

 

[Elysian]

Yeh I do live in a shithole country...called England.

I am only after 1080p/60 so I was eyeing up the RTX 3050 as it seems to be in stock in a few places but at around £350 it's still well over RRP. Guess I'm a stingy shit and it hurts my soul getting gouged, even if for only £100.

Also got an old desktop tower with an i7 4790 so getting a more powerful GPU would just bottleneck I guess and I don't want to build a completely new machine.

lmao

I hope you find a 3050 for a good price somewhere. If you need something cheaper the 6500XT is in stock and £199.99 on Overclockers right now, but it only has 4gb of vram compared to the 3050's 8gb which might bottleneck you a bit if you're deadset on seeing every droplet of sweat on CGI Keanu's abs or something. Just a thought.

Good luck!

 

[XMassAllYearRound]

Does anyone have the specs for the ryzen 7000 CPU's?
I think I may have made a mistake. I've noticed high end AMD CPU's and motherboards have been on sale recently and in my desire to build a gaming PC with full windows virtualization ASAP I bought a ryzen 5950x for 600 dollars and a motherboard with 4 m.2 slots for 300 dollars.
Do you think I made a good call? I get the feeling I just dropped 900 dollars for tech that will be deprecated in a few months when the new Ryzen series come out.

 

[Kosher Dill]

I get the feeling I just dropped 900 dollars for tech that will be deprecated in a few months

The 5950x is a great CPU. What do you care if it's not the absolute latest thing?