GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

A --60 card probably won't have that much longevity when it comes to new releases, but in general, yes, the new graphics cards are well positioned to last many years (as long as game devs don't go full retard and stop shipping baked lightmaps entirely because "you can just shade rays, it cuts down our development costs so much!" or whatever). DLSS/FSR/XeSS are really good at upscaling, so that even a game rendering at 1080p will look alright on a 4k monitor, and with frame generation 20fps will feel more like 40fps, entirely playable, particularly with Reflex/AMD Anti-Lag (assuming AMD's version isn't getting people banned from steam anymore or whatever that controversy was about) reducing the input lag to barely perceptible even at very low rates.
If I weren't into running AIs I'd probably be counting on my 4090 to last the decade out, or more.
The 1060 Ti worked fine for years.

The 3060 Ti will do the same.

Just let the old man sit on his porch and play vidya at 1080p and 60fps. You don't need more than that. It looks great!
 
In fairness, we're talking about the 1060 6 GB version. (They also did a 3 GB version, which we don't talk about.)

But that being said, is the 3060 the latest and greatest? No. But it'll do a pretty damn good job of running games for years to come.
 
In fairness, we're talking about the 1060 6 GB version. (They also did a 3 GB version, which we don't talk about.)

But that being said, is the 3060 the latest and greatest? No. But it'll do a pretty damn good job of running games for years to come.
Especially since AAA game projects are being dumpstered left and right. A lot more of the landscape is probably going to be moderately demanding AA stuff and not so much Alan Wake 2.
 
Well I bought and got in my cpu cooler.
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63 bucks. So cheap. And so many good reviews. Now it's just the graphics card and replacing the 32 gigs of ram I have with 64 if I'm feeling frisky.
 
Your GPU will be fine. Even if it runs out of VRAM, some of the games will just silently downgrade the textures.


I read WccfKek for the comments, I swear.

I did watch the video, and he had his RAM OC'd to 8.4 GHz, PL2 set to 340W, and max power limit set to 500A, before knocking everything down to the recommended specs. He still ends up sustaining a frequency of 5.4 GHz, which is well above the base frequency of 3.2 GHz. You do see right at the beginning of the games, right after loading & decompressing assets, his CPU is still at 5.9 GHz, the rated max turbo speed, before throttling back to 5.4 GHz. This seems to me to be pretty consistent with settings labeled "Performance."

Anand has a pretty good article about this.
 
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Didn't they start moderating them more a while back? I think you can't even call people niggers on it anymore
Probably word filters, and they will delete some comments when they notice them, but very few permabans and I see a decent amount of posting about da joos, or AI-generated images of pajeets covered in "mud". It's just enough censorship to create innovation.


If this is true, AMD is about to ditch that naming scheme they've had for less than two years. Instead of something like Ryzen 7 8850HS for Strix Point, where the '5' is telling you it's based on Zen 5, they will call it AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 170. Virtually indecipherable other than being a copy of what Intel is calling theirs, e.g. Intel Core Ultra 9 185H.

They should have just stolen Intel's abandoned i3/i5/i7/i9 branding. Ryzen i9-170AIHX3D
 
If this is true, AMD is about to ditch that naming scheme they've had for less than two years. Instead of something like Ryzen 7 8850HS for Strix Point, where the '5' is telling you it's based on Zen 5, they will call it AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 170. Virtually indecipherable other than being a copy of what Intel is calling theirs, e.g. Intel Core Ultra 9 185H.

I genuinely wonder what kind of insane retard is in charge of branding at these companies. These indecipherable strings of numbers and letters mean nothing to anyone, and by the time people start to notice the pattern, they change it just to keep you guessing. I lost track of Xeon branding ages ago, after they dropped the E3/E5 nomenclature. EPYC was just randomly changed from 700X to 900X. Nine is bigger!
 
I genuinely wonder what kind of insane retard is in charge of branding at these companies. These indecipherable strings of numbers and letters mean nothing to anyone, and by the time people start to notice the pattern, they change it just to keep you guessing. I lost track of Xeon branding ages ago, after they dropped the E3/E5 nomenclature. EPYC was just randomly changed from 700X to 900X. Nine is bigger!
Honestly I think that's the point. They don't want you to be able to identify similar models and compare them unless you're carrying a big intricate chart.
 
Hey, is a EPYC 7282 a good CPU at $100
Be careful with the latest gen Epyc processors. They are now able to be vendor locked. This for "security" reasons. I don't think this is one of those though, but something to keep in mind especially with the latest gen Epyc. I didn't think Xeons are doing that quite yet.
It feels like when you're buying a AMD cpu, they hide the embedded apu G series option unless you specify plug it into the search bar. Honestly they do a terrible job promoting it.
AMD needs to have a better product database. Intel Ark is great and AMD (and other vendors) could learn or thing or two from it.
 
In Apple news, the iPad Air receives the M2, and the iPad Pro receives the M4.

The M4's based on a second generation 3 nm process, and has 3/4 performance cores and 6 efficiency cores, plus a 9/10 core GPU, which also has the raytracing and mesh shading from the M3.

I'd guess a 20% boost to CPU and GPU over the M3, since that's what Apple tries to go for in the past.

The PC Apple's compared the M4 to, going by the footnote on the presser, is a ASUZ Zenbook 14 OLED (UX3405MA) with a Core Ultra 7 155H and 32 GB RAM.

Games mentioned are Diablo Immortal receiving raytracing, Assassin's Creed Mirage and Zenless Zone Zero (MiHoYo).
 
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